(08-25-2016, 11:50 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 11:45 AM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ]maybe his game is just good but i can compare this sub to so many other of shanons attraction subs and i dont like it and you know my results
i am behaving like a total beta since i stopped sm3
I do, that's why I asked. I seriously thought that you would overshadow Chaos success with DMSI and you are getting similar results as other guys listening to DMSI.
I was beginning to think that only the guys that ran AM5 or AM6 were the ones getting phenomenal results with DMSI. You have shattered that theory. Something else is going on and I'm trying to figure it out.
Also, keep in mind that I ran AM6 for a year straight. I don't mean like, I ran AM6, stopped for awhile and had fun, then ran AM6 again.
I ran AM6 to completion, stopped for two days and started back up again and run AM6 to completion.
I also thought that Dzemoo's experiences were going to overshadow mine. In fact, I think he's just going through resistance right now. Keep in mind that DMSI and SM3 have two different ways of solving the same goal.
He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
(08-25-2016, 11:51 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not getting the best results on v2.3 -- externally, anyways. Internally? Yeah, v2.3 is on point. Externally, I'm getting ghosted a lot.
Please, don't be modest. You kissed a girl on the neck (autopilot v2.3) remember, she's married with 4 kids. You freaked out after you did it because the healing modules were removed.
For now, you aren't seeing anything... but stuff has happened with 2.3
(08-25-2016, 11:54 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
If he was being pursued, he would have reported it. He is reporting that he feels invisible like a ghost.
(08-25-2016, 12:01 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 11:54 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
If he was being pursued, he would have reported it. He is reporting that he feels invisible like a ghost.
Which -- theoretically -- would be the subconscious response to resisting the programming turning him into the pursued. Instead of being open to being pursued, your subconscious would do the exact opposite and make you invisible. At least, that's what Shannon has said a few times in the past.
I'm just as baffled about this "ghosting" phenomenon as everyone else -- it's happening to me too. Yes, I did kiss that woman on the neck (and I'm still freaked out about that), but I haven't had any of the crazy v1 attraction hits. On v1, I was getting so much attention that I would hide in the house until the aura faded. Now, I'm getting rejection indicators from women that are (to be honest) beneath my value.
(08-25-2016, 12:01 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 11:54 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
If he was being pursued, he would have reported it. He is reporting that he feels invisible like a ghost.
yeah i am not used to it because i am used to be the center of attention while running the magnets
(08-25-2016, 12:08 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 12:01 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 11:54 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
If he was being pursued, he would have reported it. He is reporting that he feels invisible like a ghost.
Which -- theoretically -- would be the subconscious response to resisting the programming turning him into the pursued. Instead of being open to being pursued, your subconscious would do the exact opposite and make you invisible. At least, that's what Shannon has said a few times in the past.
I'm just as baffled about this "ghosting" phenomenon as everyone else -- it's happening to me too. Yes, I did kiss that woman on the neck (and I'm still freaked out about that), but I haven't had any of the crazy v1 attraction hits. On v1, I was getting so much attention that I would hide in the house until the aura faded. Now, I'm getting rejection indicators from women that are (to be honest) beneath my value.
so would you say v1 was the best so far, why dont you use it then i would use it if i had it
Guys, I think you're thinking that I'm being some DMSI cheerleader and I believe the program is infallible. Not true -- you can ask Leonidas, we've had some extensive convos on the topic. I'm quite irritated that my d*ck isn't dripping wet and that I'm not getting crazy external results like I was on v1. BUT, I'm also trying to bring a bit of stability and perspective to the situation, given that we're using experimental technology.
So, I'm just exploring avenues, not saying that you're wrong, or that your opinion doesn't matter. Just, we're five days into a groundbreaking release, let's see it through and make good observations.
EDIT: To answer your question, I'm not using v1 because I promised to test v2.3. The temptation to go to v1 is VERY, VERY, VERY strong. But, I wanna hold to my word.
(08-25-2016, 12:08 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 12:01 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 11:54 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
If he was being pursued, he would have reported it. He is reporting that he feels invisible like a ghost.
yeah i am not used to it because i am used to be the center of attention while running the magnets
To be fair, SM3 creates 7 auras, DMSI only 1. Obviously SM3 works for you and you can always run a refresher!! Unless you want to continue with DMSI 2.3 in the name of science... and see where it leads??
(08-25-2016, 12:14 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 12:08 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 12:01 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2016, 11:54 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]He's been programmed to hunt and pursue women. DMSI turns HIM into the pursued. I would theorize that the overlap between SM3 and DMSI is smaller than we may think.
If he was being pursued, he would have reported it. He is reporting that he feels invisible like a ghost.
yeah i am not used to it because i am used to be the center of attention while running the magnets
To be fair, SM3 creates 7 auras, DMSI only 1. Obviously SM3 works for you and you can always run a refresher!! Unless you want to continue with DMSI 2.3 in the name of science... and see where it leads??
i am trying to decide right now between biatbw and wm2
(08-25-2016, 12:12 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Guys, I think you're thinking that I'm being some DMSI cheerleader and I believe the program is infallible. Not true -- you can ask Leonidas, we've had some extensive convos on the topic. I'm quite irritated that my d*ck isn't dripping wet and that I'm not getting crazy external results like I was on v1. BUT, I'm also trying to bring a bit of stability and perspective to the situation, given that we're using experimental technology.
So, I'm just exploring avenues, not saying that you're wrong, or that your opinion doesn't matter. Just, we're five days into a groundbreaking release, let's see it through and make good observations.
EDIT: To answer your question, I'm not using v1 because I promised to test v2.3. The temptation to go to v1 is VERY, VERY, VERY strong. But, I wanna hold to my word.
Key word, Experimental. Exactly why I decided to test 2.3!! Stick to your guns Chaos and complete the test!!
Resistance? Probably, but there's 2 primary goals. One is to project an aura of sexiness. One would think that's not an issue with Dzemoo because of his results with SM etc.
I'm having results, but different from what I'm used to. I naturally hunt women, and imo you can make that co-exist with the aura. I did that with AOS and v1.
AOS was subtle, it was building up over time and hit a peak around 6 months were I was bathing in IOI's and getting approached by women. That didn't stop me from running my mouth.
v1 was blatant from day 1. I felt this enormous energy inside and outside myself. Crazy hits from women everywhere, the ultimate screening method. If women gave strong IOI's (which they did) I knew that they were DTF. It was just obvious what the sub was about. Every guy should at least try that, it's insane. It was like 6 months of AOS in 20 days. Well, not really, but you get my point.
And now we're here with 2.3. I don't get ghosted a lot, never did, even before subs. This could be part of it. I still get the attraction hits, but they're more low-key than v1. It's more laid back in the atmosphere around me, and the autopilot keeps pushing me to cater to the girl in question. So I agree with Dzemoo, I'm definitely more beta since running this sub. But it's also changeable. Sometimes I'm extremely alpha. It's the autopilot doing this.
And here's the last thing I've noticed. So far I've had 3 "chance encounters" with 3 good looking women in the 4 days of running this sub. I'm not used to that, unless I travel or it just happens sporadically. What I mean is that I'm not trying to make anything happen, there's a girl who somehow gets in my vicinity and then we somehow start talking. Could be manifistation, I don't know for sure. But this is new.
The betaness can be a big problem. I had to snap out of it today. I was lightly flirting with one of the women I met at the gym the other day. We've been working out at the same time for 3 days straight now. Coincidence? Who knows. It's not my style to flirt and keep stalling like that so I went with the autopilot again (or against it). This girl lacks a bit of confidence and she will not pursue me, she will not go any further than flirting it was so clear to me, so today I just went up to her before I left and told her I wanna take her out sometime. So I got her number and we'll see what happens. But I accepted the fact that women can seduce me for sex, not much resistence there. I don't like it, but I'm not that against it anymore.
Usually that's a good thing, getting a number from a girl who is very attracted. "Hey man, you totally number closed that girl". Yeah, but the autopilot also put me into this ideal lover crap, like I could just walk into that role on instinct, it's weird. Maybe that's what you're resisting, and in a lot of cases, you should. I think I was relating to and adjusting to her sexual comfortability level.
I think this is some powerful shit, and one should be extremely mindful when using it. I don't want a relationship with this girl, but I won't be surprised if she brings it up. With the other woman, it's all about sex. So you see, you'll be at the mercy of the sub.
I'll stick to it for now and ride it out. And when in doubt, let's just stick to what we know best.
Edit: Chaos, yeah the temptation to run v1 is strong alright.
Edit: I already ignore women I see as beneath me, but come to think of it, they seem to ignore me more than ever. I like that about this sub. There 3 fat women I met today who were very cautious around me and gave me my space.
short update was on a date with a 20 year old she initiated it huge attraction at first then she started loosing respect gradually, then i was tell something then she stopped me said "there will not be a next time " and i said "how do you mean this " she said "there will not be a next time i am noticing that you are not mature enough for me " i said "haha you are right " and walked away left her there
later she texted me thanks for the evening and the information about you
good night
didnt respond to this little hoe and never will she doesnt know me who i am
That's an extremely odd date scenario.
When girls initiated dates with me, I could be silent while she was yappin' on, be shy, be weird, beta you name it. Somehow she would still project whatever flavor-of-the-month fantasy she had onto me, at least for a little while.
yeah i was shocked a bit walking away and ignoring her is the only right way now,,,
she was rich by the way kept talking how she is something better and wanted to give me a lesson about how to talk to women, cute rich chick but fuck it noone talks to me like that dmsi is so weirde
i dont know why chicks keep thinking i am a pussy when i am more alpha than 95% of the men there must be something off with the vibe