Subliminal Talk

I think he knows what he is doing. Without anyone trying it, we won't find out. I wish you all the best, may both programs together work wonders for you!

(11-11-2015, 11:01 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]I think he knows what he is doing. Without anyone trying it, we won't find out. I wish you all the best, may both programs together work wonders for you!

Shannon already did tests for this. People just don't want to listen.

If he knows what he is doing and he wants to do it, so what?
It is his choice, we should respect that and treat him that way. U understand what I mean?

(11-11-2015, 11:38 AM)Hercules Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon already did tests for this. People just don't want to listen.

Exactly right Hercules. But its their choice. But this isn't our journal guys, it's Fluffybunny's journal. Let's just let the convo die here and not derail the journal anymore. Apologies to you Fluffy.

Wait for it, the all powerful master will soon reply with "you guys just don't want to follow the rules" haha god forbid somebody wanted to experiment outside of the dictated stipulations without being flamed by a forum of people who follow blindly. They are after all consumer products and should be considered guidelines and not law. All you are invalidating is your right to refund.

"General Disclaimer: You agree that by downloading and/or using any subliminal program created by Shannon L. Matteson, you accept all responsibility for the use of and results of using all programs you purchase from Indigo Mind Labs, and that you therefore agree to hold harmless Indigo Mind Labs, it’s owners, management, employees, contractors, affiliates and payment processors for anything at all that you experience from using, or think you experience as a result of using, any program you get from Indigo Mind Labs or any program created by Shannon L. Matteson or made public by or through Indigo Mind Labs, and that your sole recourse for any damages, actual or otherwise, is a refund for the full purchase price of the program, minus any third party processing fees."

At the end of the day its his choice and experimentation should never be considered a bad thing. Best of luck fluffybunny, I for one am very interested in the results that follow..

Please explain to me Minitan how the people of the forum are "following blindly" when they are taking instructions from someone who researched this material, crafted it himself, and has performed numerous tests on this material. If we were taking our cues from let's say some forum noob who had only purchased one product then I'd cosign with your statement in a New York minute.

(11-11-2015, 12:54 PM)Minititan Wrote: [ -> ]Wait for it, the all powerful master will soon reply with "you guys just don't want to follow the rules" haha god forbid somebody wanted to experiment outside of the dictated stipulations without being flamed by a forum of people who follow blindly. They are after all consumer products and should be considered guidelines and not law. All you are invalidating is your right to refund.

"General Disclaimer: You agree that by downloading and/or using any subliminal program created by Shannon L. Matteson, you accept all responsibility for the use of and results of using all programs you purchase from Indigo Mind Labs, and that you therefore agree to hold harmless Indigo Mind Labs, it’s owners, management, employees, contractors, affiliates and payment processors for anything at all that you experience from using, or think you experience as a result of using, any program you get from Indigo Mind Labs or any program created by Shannon L. Matteson or made public by or through Indigo Mind Labs, and that your sole recourse for any damages, actual or otherwise, is a refund for the full purchase price of the program, minus any third party processing fees."

At the end of the day its his choice and experimentation should never be considered a bad thing. Best of luck fluffybunny, I for one am very interested in the results that follow..

So, how is your experiment going?

Haha u guys are funny.

The reason i am doing both is i am planning on running these two subs for a long time, quite possibly over a year or two.

MSL due to wanting to learn all the stuff i need to boost all areas of life
BIATWS is for my ego LOL. who doesnt wanna be exuding that level of sexiness to women all the time.
and of course by getting some level of attention i wont be putting too much energy onto women thus distracting me and my time on moving towards my other goals.

and secondly i would just feel like its less fun if i was running the 4G MLS, plus the 5G just came out so pretty good timing lol.


Day 1: anyways as i excepted , it does take a lot of toll on ur brain specially the first few days of the run as it process new information.
did feel really hard to wake up in the morning it was like i was fricken still dreaming when i woke up , heavy ass brick brain hhahahah

EDIT Feel like im a little bit more horny from BIATWS .... i usually dont have random thought of nailing chicks during the day... but now i do out of no where...

(11-11-2015, 01:48 PM)Survivor Wrote: [ -> ]So, how is your experiment going?

Haven't started yet, Just incase breaking the rules is a severe atrocity, finishing my current run of SM first another 7 or 8 days to go for the full 32 of stage 6. So will finish this sub and probably rest a fortnight or so since I have done 5G subs everyday for the last year, could do with a few nights sleep not hearing the ocean

You run your sub at night with Ocean? wow wth that would be impossible for me to sleep.
why not just do sonic with speakers

(11-11-2015, 03:18 PM)Minititan Wrote: [ -> ]could do with a few nights sleep not hearing the ocean

If I remember correctly "Superman" loops ultrasonic and masked on the speakers while he sleeps. He "swears" his results have improved exponentially!!

(11-11-2015, 04:50 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2015, 03:18 PM)Minititan Wrote: [ -> ]could do with a few nights sleep not hearing the ocean

If I remember correctly "Superman" loops ultrasonic and masked on the speakers while he sleeps. He "swears" his results have improved exponentially!!

Really?

would not you like wake up when the ultrasonic is silent and the next hour the ocean sound just suddenly comes on, and u just wake up?

Next hour u fall asleep then the fricken next hour the ocean sound comes on again and u wake up again...

how the hell does that even work lol.

(11-11-2015, 05:43 PM)FluffyBunny Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2015, 04:50 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2015, 03:18 PM)Minititan Wrote: [ -> ]could do with a few nights sleep not hearing the ocean

If I remember correctly "Superman" loops ultrasonic and masked on the speakers while he sleeps. He "swears" his results have improved exponentially!!

Really?

would not you like wake up when the ultrasonic is silent and the next hour the ocean sound just suddenly comes on, and u just wake up?

Next hour u fall asleep then the fricken next hour the ocean sound comes on again and u wake up again...

how the hell does that even work lol.

Supposedly, you start off with ultrasonic so you can fall asleep and when the masked comes on you should be sound asleep and not even notice it. Supposedly...

I love ultrasonic, it's how I found Indigo MindLabs. Doing a search for ultrasonic. It is all I listen to, even on the headphones... even though we're not supposed to.

(11-11-2015, 07:19 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote: [ -> ]BIABWS 4g mixed with MLS 5g has to be a million times less powerful than AM6 so I don't see the big deal. I don't understand why the rule is one at a time but then there's 6 stage sets and they say the entire script of a million things is in them. So more than one at a time is bad, but 20 at a time is okay? Doesn't even make the smallest amount of sense.

exaggeration aside, you don't understand because you don't know enough about what's going on under the hood and behind the scenes. 6 stage sets are custom designed to be able to work, and they include a layer of design and implementation that I literally had to invent to make them work. To the best of my knowledge, we are the only producers of such subliminals for that reason. I can't explain further without giving away trade secrets, but I'm sure you'll agree that with my 20+ years of experience and research and development, and having literally invented the technology that allows 6 stagers to work, I might happen to know what I'm talking about here.

Quote:I have asked about this a ton of times and never got one single response besides "don't do it" or "it's against the rules" who follows the rules 100% when they don't even have one reason to follow them besides 'I said so'?

The reasons for why we don't mix 5G with anything else are out there and I have explained them "a ton of times" as you put it, but here we go again.

1. 5G is very demanding of the brain, for oxygen, glucose and all the brain chemistry involved in advanced information inpiut, processing, cognition and the actual development of the neural pathways and dendrites that result from using the program.
   
2. 5G is designed to max out your brain's ability to input data per second, and to process data. This means that if you attempt to use two programs simultaneously, you'll overload instantly, and if you attempt to use them both at the same time but not simultaneously, you'll seriously degrade the results you get from both, if not neutralize them.
   
3. You can get serious unexpected side effects in cases if and where the scripts may conflict in goal.
   
4. You divide your energy and focus, and at best, will have the results appear much, much more slowly.
   
5. 5G programs will dominate 4G and 3G programs in effect, but the results of dividing focus can be unpredictable. I'm trying to be safe, and you should too.
   
6. I don't really appreciate it when people don't follow the carefully written and researched instructions and then try to give me a negative reputation because of their own stupidity.
   
7. I also don't appreciate it when people don't don't follow the carefully written and researched instructions and then try to get their money back because of their own stupidity.
   
8. The instructions tell you how to get what you paid for in the best and shortest way, and keep you as safe as possible doing so. Pretty common sense to follow them at that point.
   

I'd say these are pretty good reasons for the instructions saying what they do.

Quote:If there's a good reason not to do it, I'd love to hear it, but when someone says not to do something and I ask why, and they say because, that's just not a strong reason not to do it. I'd like to know because why, because I see absolutely no reason not to do it.

Maybe the instructions were written that way because someone knows something you don't. And maybe not every reason for them saying what they do is something I can or am willing to explain, since regardless of what I say to explain, only a small fraction of people ever read or care about it, and explaining over and over and over again to no result is therefore a waste of my time which could be spent developing new stuff and building subs...

Quote:It's like if someone's like "hey, don't eat that pancake" and I'm like "why?" and they say "because, I said, and I know", then I'm going to eat the pancake, but if they said "because I saw someone poison it, and if you eat that you will die" then, if I believed them, I wouldn't eat the pancake, but just saying because is no reason worth listening to imo.

It sounds like you have an issue with being told what to do. Resisting just to resist. That's not so wise, and sooner or later that pancake is going to cause you food poisoning and maybe even kill you. Maybe sometimes you should consider the source and just follow the instructions if the source is reasonably knowledgeable.

Quote:Only thing I would do different is I would listen to one of the two until I don't get tired from it anymore, and then I'd add the other one. I've never tried 5g so maybe I wouldn't but right now I'm running 2 4g type b/d and nothing bad is happening, I'm enjoying the subs and don't see any reason to stop, and saying it's against the rules isn't a motivating reason to stop. If breathing was against the rules I wouldn't stop, but if I knew I should hold my breath because there's poisonous gas in the room, then hey, there's a reason I would listen to and I'd hold my breathe, but I'm just not the type to follow sh*t blindly and have no clue why I'm even following it.

Your logic is breathtaking.

Quote:I also don't just break rules for fun, but if there's something I want to do, and I don't see any reason not to do it, then I'm going to do it.

So it's not for fun, it's just because you're invincible?

Look, I know some of you guys think you know everything and you're invincible and all, but seriously, if you're going to ingore the instructions, just make sure that you do the following:

• Take personal responsibility for your choices, actions and results.
  
• Don't blame me when and if shit goes wrong. If you didn't follow the instructions, whatever happens is YOUR fault. Not mine, and not IML's.
  
• Don't ask for a refund when and if shit goes wrong because you didn't follow the instructions. If you didn't get results, or the results were strange or they took a long time or looked weak, that's your doing, not mine.
  
• Don't badmouth me, my products or the technologies I have developed if or when shit goes wrong because you didn't follow the instructions.
  

Beyond that, I'm tired of trying to get you guys to use the programs according to how they were designed to be used and get the best results, because it's obvious that some of you are largely incapable of comprehending that the instructions are aimed at getting you better results and keeping you safe, not wasting your time and not wasting your money.

And with that said, have fun.