(12-26-2015, 05:43 AM)dre72 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm 7 days into overcoming fear now. I'm averaging 6-8 hours while I sleep. Is that enough? I haven't really noticed any changes at all yet, but I am having some really strange/vivid dreams. Is the turning point after 15 days when the subconscious mind starts to concede?
Hey, you should get at least 8 hours. Also, It'll take a lot longer than 15 days to have serious lasting results and changes.
(12-26-2015, 06:51 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2015, 05:43 AM)dre72 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm 7 days into overcoming fear now. I'm averaging 6-8 hours while I sleep. Is that enough? I haven't really noticed any changes at all yet, but I am having some really strange/vivid dreams. Is the turning point after 15 days when the subconscious mind starts to concede?
Hey, you should get at least 8 hours. Also, It'll take a lot longer than 15 days to have serious lasting results and changes.
So how long is that? When did you start to notice some changes? I have some social anxiety to get rid of. A few people said this isn't the best sub for it, but I have started it now so I want to finish. My main problem is actually sticking to something. Also when do you know the best time to stop the sub. I see some people do 200 days!
(12-27-2015, 02:03 AM)dre72 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2015, 06:51 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2015, 05:43 AM)dre72 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm 7 days into overcoming fear now. I'm averaging 6-8 hours while I sleep. Is that enough? I haven't really noticed any changes at all yet, but I am having some really strange/vivid dreams. Is the turning point after 15 days when the subconscious mind starts to concede?
Hey, you should get at least 8 hours. Also, It'll take a lot longer than 15 days to have serious lasting results and changes.
So how long is that? When did you start to notice some changes? I have some social anxiety to get rid of. A few people said this isn't the best sub for it, but I have started it now so I want to finish. My main problem is actually sticking to something. Also when do you know the best time to stop the sub. I see some people do 200 days!
Geodude said his social anxiety was helped greatly by this. The most powerful sub for his social anxiety. Just stick to it for 6 months straight. 5G version is coming out soon, too.
32 days minimum at 12 hrs a day minimum.
I've done 15 days so far, but I don't feel there have been any effects yet. Should I start my own thread or is fine to continue on this one? Also when shall I report because as I mentioned I haven't felt any different for now other than lots of very very strange dreams with some of them being quite scary. The main reason I am doing this is to overcome my social anxiety and also fear in work. I do sales and I'm good at it, but sometimes I won't ring certain people or procrastinate because I'm scared to do it. A lot of the time I have to ramp myself up by drinking coffee and then I am fine.
(01-03-2016, 04:03 AM)dre72 Wrote: [ -> ]I've done 15 days so far, but I don't feel there have been any effects yet. Should I start my own thread or is fine to continue on this one? Also when shall I report because as I mentioned I haven't felt any different for now other than lots of very very strange dreams with some of them being quite scary. The main reason I am doing this is to overcome my social anxiety and also fear in work. I do sales and I'm good at it, but sometimes I won't ring certain people or procrastinate because I'm scared to do it. A lot of the time I have to ramp myself up by drinking coffee and then I am fine.
start your own journal in the men's journal section
Awesome!
Really looking forward to your posts, man.
OF5G will no doubt help me, I'm trusting Shannon 100% on my need for "focused fear destruction". Both of these, OF5G, and OGSF5G, are incredible and will benefit all of us. Such grassroots programs, can really do a massive amount of garbage removal and aid multi-stages, I have zero doubt in that.
After the past 1.5 days of listening to OF 5G with not that much difference, and no noticeable improvements, and even some resistance and/or emotional turbulence, self-esteem issues, I've now listened to OGSF 5G for 30 minutes by earphones (for the first time in months; I always use ultrasonic), and it feels like some sort of weight and darkness has been lifted away. I'm literally wanting to actually smile. Whereas the rest of the day before OGSF, I was feeling self-conscious, self-loathing, difficult time looking at myself in the mirror, etc. I'm looking at myself in the mirror now as I type this, and it's like my perception of myself has shifted; I'm okay with myself, I like what I see and I like the person that my reflection shows.
It's crazy, not sure if it's placebo; we'll see...
(02-05-2016, 09:22 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Bought OGSF 5G today, because I realized, after reading the following articles, that I do probably have some deep rooted shame in me:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/you...bout-shame
http://www.nicholls.edu/counseling/newsl...tionships/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/int...us-emotion
Probably, same here, I thought that I`ve get this rid out of me, but during 5th WM2`s stage my negative thoughts about myself have come back. May be it`s resistance... I hope so. Actually, in this stage negative self image and negative self talk are attacked, maybe this is the reason, I`ll see. If it doesnt`s pass away, I`ll use this sub for sure.
Any way, goog luck, mate!
Good luck with your OGSF journey Dissonance!
I'm a week into OGSF and Im feeling quite different. Today felt very zen, I'm already more comfortable and accepting of myself. Girls were gawking a little, guys didn't seem too happy hehe, and Plenty of people were smiling. Must be putting out good vibes
Bliss, what was your level of self-esteem, self-confidence, social-anxiety, self-love before you started OGSF?
(02-05-2016, 09:39 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Awesome!
Really looking forward to your posts, man.
OF5G will no doubt help me, I'm trusting Shannon 100% on my need for "focused fear destruction". Both of these, OF5G, and OGSF5G, are incredible and will benefit all of us. Such grassroots programs, can really do a massive amount of garbage removal and aid multi-stages, I have zero doubt in that.
Yes indeed! Here's to changing our lives.
(02-05-2016, 11:43 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Bliss, what was your level of self-esteem, self-confidence, social-anxiety, self-love before you started OGSF?
Honestly... Low. To most people on the outside I look confident but that was just the mask I was presenting to the world (even started to fool myself a little). But deep down there was this constant pain of feeling not good enough. These last few months I've really worked on self love and healing old wounds and this program is helping a lot