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(11-05-2015, 09:41 AM)Soaring Wrote: [ -> ]I am noticing when I go out, even to just buying some food I feel more powerful, confident and attractive.

I have had a few moments where I have said what is on my mind, like calling someone a C U Next Tuesday and that person was my mother, I actually laughed after I said it and my mother did too.

I feel really cocky and sure of my self, I feel it in my being and that is expressing it's self into my thoughts, body language and vibe.

I think some guy beeped at me when I was driving and I was ready to get out and go beast mode. I would of not cared if the guy was 8ft tall. No one beeps at me, I am king.

If this is the way OF is going, I am very much looking forward to this journey.

Sounds like liam neeson.
You will be fearless and kick some asss.
Occasionally I smoke a doobie and because my tolerance is low, I need to be careful how much I have, otherwise I get mega anxiety, paranoia and fearful.

Last night for example, I went to sit outside as I can see all in the distance all around me, and there was a lot of fire works. Outside my place is quite open and there are many hidden trees, bushes and crooks and grannies.

So I was sitting outside smoking and I started realizing I am pretty high and it is like I didn't realize how high I got. Then one thought leads to another and before you know it I am getting pretty fearful and paranoid. I started thinking that someone could come out of the bushes and kill me. A tiger could just be watching me right now ready to pounce. At one point I was even imagining dinosaurs coming out and eating me and actually feeling the fear.

I had a voice inside me screaming at me...GO INSIDE, GO INSIDE, IT IS SAFER TO GO INSIDE!

Over and over again this voice was screaming at me whilst I was feeling this fear. I knew that this was fear. All my senses became heightened to the max, I became animal like. I started feeling like a cave man out in the wild and fears kicking in to protect me from wild animals that can hunt and kill me.

I was feeling like a cave man, and feeling primal fears that are meant to protect me from danger. I was having a war inside of myself, making myself stay and feel this fear without giving in to my fears and running away to go inside my house.

The feelings where real, strong and I really felt my life was in danger. My heart was pounding out of my chest, I was looking 360 degrees around me, continuously, so I can be aware of any danger when it does happen.

I was feeling the fear and being with it, feeling the primal fears and being at one with my primitive self, for a ridicules amount of time.

Eventually by my own choice, not my fears, I went inside.

And in my kitchen I have lots of windows and all the lights where on and I could not see outside, so I started feeling really paranoid that there people outside watching me and I can not see them. I felt open, vulnerable and very very uncomfortable. I knew this was fear so I held my ground and started getting these voices in my head screaming at me, get the fuck out of here! Your exposed, people can see you, this is dangerous! Turn the lights off! Get out of this room, so no one can see you!

I just stood my ground, felt the fear and just stood there wide open, vulnerable and open for attack of someone sniping me through my windows.

It is a very strange feeling to feel fear, as in your life is in danger and just being with it. It is a very surreal feeling. It felt like I was going against my primal fears. I felt fearful but consciously in control.

At one point outside, I was closing my eyes and had my hands stretched out to my sides, and it intensified the fears loads, but I was just being with it, whilst every worse case scenarios was playing through my mind one after the other, screaming at me to stop it.

You want to know what is weird. The voice that was screaming at me, was my own voice!

I think that says a lot in and of its self.
I dedicate this song to my inner child.

I have been having some weird feelings lately. It went from I am not even feeling any resistance from OF...to feeling really alone and sad LOL.

I was even considering not journaling on here and just keeping a personal journal on PC for myself, I felt I can't fully be myself on here (I don't like being open and vulnerable so everyone can know my weaknesses) I never do with real people in my real life, they then judge me based on what I said and can use the information against me.

I have been feeling really alone, I wish I had some real friends and even a girlfriend. I feel I am not getting any real intimate connection with anyone and I feel like I need it to feel sane. I have my parents and brother and few guys at work that I see couple times a week and on Saturday I see some new people on a course I am doing. But I can't connect with none of them and it makes me feel alone even if I am interacting and talking with them. It sucks bad. I want someone to be close to and be really open and feel ''connection'' what ever that means.

I wont be upgrading to OF 5G when it comes out. I have bought too many subliminals and I can't even use them for a full 6 months. I refuse to buy any more until I can start using them for 6 months at a time, to see if they actually do make a difference in my life. Otherwise, I am wasting my money and my time and my sanity.

I feel scared because I don't know what to do to change my life. I feel I have conflicting beliefs about how I create my reality, what has worked for me in the past, what has not worked for me in the past, what is not working now, and what supposedly is supposed to work (Changing Beliefs = Changing reality)

I have so many contradictions, I just don't know what to belief no more. Hopefully one day I can get out of the whole I am in and start again from basics and learn what does actually work for me personally and then continue to use the same things that work to create the life I want.

It feels like all I can do is just wait and see, even thought I hate that.
It's so weird man. How do I know what I said above is true? Just because I have a thought or an emotion about it or even a judgement. I don't see how that can make it true!

If I saw anything in a diffrent way then it would be changed right?

I just feel mind fucked. Everything is based on jugements even my own view of my life.
"I have been feeling really alone, I wish I had some real friends and even a girlfriend. I feel I am not getting any real intimate connection with anyone and I feel like I need it to feel sane. I have my parents and brother and few guys at work that I see couple times a week and on Saturday I see some new people on a course I am doing. But I can't connect with none of them and it makes me feel alone even if I am interacting and talking with them. It sucks bad. I want someone to be close to and be really open and feel ''connection'' what ever that means."

I feel very very similar to this. I have no real close friends, my family although love me are very distant and don't really know me. To be fair I've always been alone, and I don't know how to fix this - what's inside me that's is preventing me from what I think I want.

Sorry to hijack. Just know you're not alone and I share some of your problems.
(11-12-2015, 08:16 AM)ArcticFox Wrote: [ -> ]"I have been feeling really alone, I wish I had some real friends and even a girlfriend. I feel I am not getting any real intimate connection with anyone and I feel like I need it to feel sane. I have my parents and brother and few guys at work that I see couple times a week and on Saturday I see some new people on a course I am doing. But I can't connect with none of them and it makes me feel alone even if I am interacting and talking with them. It sucks bad. I want someone to be close to and be really open and feel ''connection'' what ever that means."

I feel very very similar to this. I have no real close friends, my family although love me are very distant and don't really know me. To be fair I've always been alone, and I don't know how to fix this - what's inside me that's is preventing me from what I think I want.

Sorry to hijack. Just know you're not alone and I share some of your problems.

No worries mate. It is always nice to hear different life perspectives Wink

(11-12-2015, 12:36 AM)yeah! Wrote: [ -> ]Will you go on to OF 5G Soaring?

I have made a commitment to this 4G sub and I would like use it for 6 months. I will take a look at the new OF 5G when it comes out though, I just don't like the idea of changing subs again.
For the course I do not Saturday's I had all week to do some homework that to be done for today, I got most of it done but kept putting finishing it off over and over again. Last night I had a really late night and I was really disappointed in myself, I ended up waking up very tired and groggy and emailed my tutor say I can not come in today.

I now feel really dispointed with myself and It is all because I automatically sabatage myself.

It sucks that myself goes against myself.

I missed another appointment I had last night too.

I think OF is giving me weird resistance, resistance that I don't notice untill it is too late. It's very stealthy and sneaky!!! I feel like I have been manipulated by my frickin self!

When I miss certain things I should and want actually do, I start to feel like a failure and hope of progress feels gone? Which is a really horrible deep sinking feeling in middle of my body.

Yesterday day time I was all positive, hopeful and motivated and when it all really matters and counts, I automatically fucked it up.
I agree that if subs doesn't work for you then you can change method. They are a lot of tools out there to help you. Subliminal is not the only tools to improve your life hopefully.

But I disagree completely on the profit part. First you can get a refund if the sub did nothing for you so where is the profit ALI6NMENT? The only profit is that you would be too weak/lazy to ask for a refund.

Why would he give up when he only tried Happiness and joy sub then the OF sub ? He did only 2 sub as far as I know and they are not the most popular and effective. They are not 5G.
What about Ephra and AM6 or LTU.
As far as I know the OF sub is one of the hardest to do. So why would he give up subliminal because he failed doing one of the hardest to do.
As far as I know the Ephra sub is free, ASC also.

I'm quiet surprise to find such advice. " You have 2 choices " That is a very limited choices, are you sure he only has 2 choices?
I didn't see any journal on LTU so I assume that. To me it seems some people don't get much results with subliminal. And Shannon admitted that.

You can't blame subliminal or Shannon if the user buy a lot of them without getting a refund. It's like me buying a lot of perfume that I might never use. It's my own stupidity.

There is a lot of other choice besides what you gave him. Like trying a free sub like Ephra. Or simply take a pause and going back 3 month later when things are getting better.

I'm sure Shannon would give him a refund if he tells them there were too much resistance and he didn't made any profit from the subliminal. Or something like that.
You are being too pessimistic here. I don't think Shannon would blame the user if there were too much resistance. Some people just can't handle it.

There has been a lot of blame and attack against Subliminal-shop recently and none of them seems reasonable. Yours included.

I don't think it's Shannon duty to prevent people to buy his subliminal if they don't get any profit or buy a subliminal they will never use. We are subconsciously programmed to buy things we don't need with the hope that it might cure all our problem like magic.

I have noticed this behavior from Soaring too but what can I do? Will he even listen to me? Everyone here seems to jump in OF like there were a golden treasure behind it. When it is one of the hardest sub out there according to the reviews.

Best advice I would give would be to try the free sub like Ephra and then if they don't give results or there is too much resistance to go elsewhere. I don't see any reason to advice a new user to do OF or OGSF (4G sub) when there is EPHRA in 5G for free. Especially when we know that OF/OGSF is hardcore.
The resistance I have been feeling is going more in my comfort zone, self sabotaging myself, complete loss of motivation to even shower, heavy cloudy feeling in my head, feelings of wanting to stop Overcoming Fear, losing complete hope that I can actually change my life and then beating my self up even more because of all this.

It can change quickly, but then come back just as quickly. I think I am just ultra sensitive to subliminals. It is true that in the past I have stopped because of resistance.

Every time, I just can't help it. The resistance tricks me and I then think stopping and/or changing subs is the absolute best thing to do and it would be completely wrong in every bone in my body to continue with whatever sub I am listening to.

I am aware of this and I do want to get results, real ones where it has helped me in my life. As I said before I want to continue listening to OF and I would love to use it for 6 months, as I really do not want to change subs again, nor buy any more. I beat myself up just thinking of buying OF 5G, that is why I have chosen not to. It will be stupid of me if I do.

As I said before I am going to keep a private journal from now on, as I do not like clogging this whole thread up with just me babbling about my resistance all the time.

I will keep track with a private journal on my PC and update here every month.

As of today it has been 3 weeks using OF every night for 8-12 hrs a day, most of it at night. I am using ultra sonic track.

Peace out.
(11-14-2015, 09:31 AM)Soaring Wrote: [ -> ]The resistance I have been feeling is going more in my comfort zone, self sabotaging myself, complete loss of motivation to even shower, heavy cloudy feeling in my head, feelings of wanting to stop Overcoming Fear, losing complete hope that I can actually change my life and then beating my self up even more because of all this.

It can change quickly, but then come back just as quickly. I think I am just ultra sensitive to subliminals. It is true that in the past I have stopped because of resistance.

Every time, I just can't help it. The resistance tricks me and I then think stopping and/or changing subs is the absolute best thing to do and it would be completely wrong in every bone in my body to continue with whatever sub I am listening to.

I am aware of this and I do want to get results, real ones where it has helped me in my life. As I said before I want to continue listening to OF and I would love to use it for 6 months, as I really do not want to change subs again, nor buy any more. I beat myself up just thinking of buying OF 5G, that is why I have chosen not to. It will be stupid of me if I do.

As I said before I am going to keep a private journal from now on, as I do not like clogging this whole thread up with just me babbling about my resistance all the time.

I will keep track with a private journal on my PC and update here every month.

As of today it has been 3 weeks using OF every night for 8-12 hrs a day, most of it at night. I am using ultra sonic track.

Peace out.

I can relate to everything you just said. When I feel like every bone in my body is telling me to stop listening to a sub I always switch to something else and if I ever feel like switching back I do. I guess it could be from resistance but personally I feel like it's my brain screaming "enough, I get it, stop fuc*ing playing this I get it, move on, it's done." and then I move on to something else, or move back to something else. I almost never go by time for when I'm done with a sub, I basically always go by when my brain tells me I'm done.
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