Subliminal Talk

(09-04-2015, 09:07 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon has said that the number of hours someone can listen to the subs depend on the individual, but the minimum is 8 hours and for most the max is 21 hours.

It's best for people to experiment with themselves early on and figure out their sweet spot. Some people get awesome results going 21 hours, some people get headaches by then and want to stop. Some people have fantastic results with just 8 or 9 hours, while others say they get very little.

The time you're not listening to subs is the "rest period". I'd recommend starting off at 8 hours a day for a few days, then increasing by a couple hours every so often to see when you feel like you're really getting everything the sub has to offer. As soon as you feel a headache or feel exhausted, you know to tone it down a bit.

Yeah I see what your saying.

So would it be more beneficial to listen to subs while you're awake and working for 12 hours, then have a silent sleep? Either way I wont be able to do that.

What i mean is, for example to have 4-5 days on subs at minimum listening time, then have 1-2 days off with silence.

My brain has been feeling "Worked Out" from the subs, I wake up real tired, serious stoner fog feeling - but in a way its a nice tired.

It's like doing exercise, afterwards you feel really tired but you also have a positive vibe. I think I might be getting a little bit addicted

So I've been experimenting with cannabis recently. I used to be able to smoke it when I was younger and feel totally comfortable and relaxed. Then at some point in time I started to become paranoid when I smoked it. i became very aware of my thoughts, then starting to question everything and get paranoid around people.

I never really smoked huge amounts, it just seemed to switch. My theory on this is that at some point I began to develop fear, at the conscious level this seemed normal but when consuming THC it exposes your thoughts and reality much more clearly - and in my case the fear which I had developed. You could think of it like the opposite of Alcohol, which removed your inhibitions and fears.

What I aimed to achieve by taking THC was to use it to bring out my worst fears, thoughts, negative patterns, bad habits, etc.

On my 3rd attempt I thought I had the dosage down, but this lot must have had a larger dosage of weed as it was a very heavy trip.

I decided to use the EPRHA ocean Sub while I was high. And i think this really brough out a strange turn of events. After about 30 mins of exposure from headphones I turned them off.

About 30 minutes later, there was one point when I was thinking heavily about my Ex girlfriend, how i treated her badly, the childish attitude I had in the relationship, my neglect towards here, and numerous other things. At this point the thought pattern had gone so deep, really ripping into my mind - it really felt like the subs doing their thing, but obviously cant be sure.

Upon realising I still had a lot of feelings for her, deep sadness that I was not with her any more, and regret and emptiness that I had lost her romantically (we are still friends). At this stage I had a panic attack and felt hugely claustrophobic while standing in my kitchen - like I was trapped inside a plastic bubble, I almost had to leave the house and go for a walk.

(At this stage I thought to myself that this was down to the 5G subs being so powerful, my my mind couldn't deal with everything that was being released from my intoxication + exposure to 5G).

I then made my way to the front room and opened the window, and sat and took a lot of deep breaths and calmed myself down. I really noticed how much emotion and pain I have associated to my EX, but it was so much more clear!

Its a very difficult experience to describe, but after that stage i then started to talk out loud like I was making a speech, (the whole time I'm consciously trying to keep calm and not beat myself up negatively, telling myself all of these emotions are fine, natural and you have nothing to fear).

While making speeches out loud to myself, outlining what my problems are in my life and how to deal with them. The basically boiled down to:

Massive pain and fear and shame to past relationships with girls.
Fear of women and girls, speaking to them, building relationships
Fear of people, friends and family
Fear work, progressing, career building

I kept almost praying/chanting to myself - to remove my demons (fear, indecent desires, procrastination, lack of taking responsibility).

Basically I had massive realisations that I need to sort my life out. I'm honestly not trying to say anything here, other than what I experienced was crazy a trip. Just wanted to share my experience in my ramblings

I have my cheap logitech Z10 speakers crammed at the top of my bed, between the mattress and head board. It seems to be working OK, but I noticed that while on the US when listening closely there is noticeable buzz/humm.

I've bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to some cheap monitors. I'm really excited to try these, not quite sure how I'll set them up!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mackie-CR3-inch-...B00OZ9NNLU

I can also use them for basic music production

(10-29-2015, 05:24 AM)ArcticFox Wrote: [ -> ]I have my cheap logitech Z10 speakers crammed at the top of my bed, between the mattress and head board. It seems to be working OK, but I noticed that while on the US when listening closely there is noticeable buzz/humm.

I've bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to some cheap monitors. I'm really excited to try these, not quite sure how I'll set them up!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mackie-CR3-inch-...B00OZ9NNLU

I can also use them for basic music production

You mean a crackling tone or just a high pitch peeping?

(10-29-2015, 05:37 AM)Vincent_Vega Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-29-2015, 05:24 AM)ArcticFox Wrote: [ -> ]I have my cheap logitech Z10 speakers crammed at the top of my bed, between the mattress and head board. It seems to be working OK, but I noticed that while on the US when listening closely there is noticeable buzz/humm.

I've bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to some cheap monitors. I'm really excited to try these, not quite sure how I'll set them up!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mackie-CR3-inch-...B00OZ9NNLU

I can also use them for basic music production

You mean a crackling tone or just a high pitch peeping?

from memory its more of a constant buzz/humm, almost like the speakers don't filter out the noise created by the power supply, so its picking up feedback from the mains AC. I don't think its the subs, but the actual speakers.

Either way I'm really happy with the new speakers, they get upto 21Khz legitimately not just a manufacturer claim.

Nice introduction but it seems like a journal now, you should create one.
It was interesting to read what you have done, nice testimonial.

I wouldn't advise you to smoke weed, in my opinion it will only make your fear worse. It did that for me so I wouldn't advise anyone to try that. But if someone want to test and report I'm cool with it. Maybe someone might find some way to make that drug actually useful. But honestly I don't believe it is possible.

In my experience weed only suppress you conscious mind and you have better access to your subconscious mind. A bit like when you dream or when you do hypnosis. Subliminal doesn't require you to be in a suggestive state so it's useless. If you enjoy feeling your deepest fear why not but otherwise I don't think you should do that.

Shannon said with Ephra if someone can't take it, or think it's too powerful or the resistance is too much then he can do a week pause each month (32 days).

(10-29-2015, 11:37 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]Nice introduction but it seems like a journal now, you should create one.
It was interesting to read what you have done, nice testimonial.

Hey Alpha360, thanks for taking the time to read through my ramblings!! I really appreciate it, and everyone else on the forum who take the time to have a read

I do actually have a journal for my EPRHA journey: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5779.html but - this thread has turned into a journal as well so I know what you mean.

(10-29-2015, 11:37 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't advise you to smoke weed, in my opinion it will only make your fear worse. It did that for me so I wouldn't advise anyone to try that. But if someone want to test and report I'm cool with it. Maybe someone might find some way to make that drug actually useful. But honestly I don't believe it is possible.

I agree, my theory was that it would help me to face my underlying problems - but i discovered that all it does it expose you to them and kind of torture you mentally (in my experience).

(10-29-2015, 11:37 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]In my experience weed only suppress you conscious mind and you have better access to your subconscious mind. A bit like when you dream or when you do hypnosis. Subliminal doesn't require you to be in a suggestive state so it's useless. If you enjoy feeling your deepest fear why not but otherwise I don't think you should do that.

I didn't enjoy it at all, it was a horrible experience! But has made me realize never to take marijuana again!!

(10-29-2015, 11:37 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon said with Ephra if someone can't take it, or think it's too powerful or the resistance is too much then he can do a week pause each month (32 days).

That's good to know, I think i'm on a good balance at the moment. I am on the negative side right now so need to be careful with friends and family as I risk cutting them off because my amplified negative/spiteful emotions are in full effect!

Ok, so I've been doing US while asleep for appx 8 hours every night. I do this using 2 speakers in my room stood about 3 metres away from my head (about 1m away from the end of my bed).

This week I started using headphones for masked track while I walk to work (i used to do this but stopped for no reason), getting about 2x30 minute sessions in every day. My mood has turned to more angry, I have a very short patience, and I'm generally a lot more pissed off all of the time. its like my fuse is a millimetre long!

I'm wondering why this is happening now? Was I not getting enough exposure before, are the US not get full utilisation while I sleep? Or is the masked track pushing me over my limit that I have become accustomed?

Thoughts?

(01-21-2016, 04:33 AM)ArcticFox Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, so I've been doing US while asleep for appx 8 hours every night. I do this using 2 speakers in my room stood about 3 metres away from my head (about 1m away from the end of my bed).

This week I started using headphones for masked track while I walk to work (i used to do this but stopped for no reason), getting about 2x30 minute sessions in every day. My mood has turned to more angry, I have a very short patience, and I'm generally a lot more pissed off all of the time. its like my fuse is a millimetre long!

I'm wondering why this is happening now? Was I not getting enough exposure before, are the US not get full utilisation while I sleep? Or is the masked track pushing me over my limit that I have become accustomed?

Thoughts?

Anybody out there?