Subliminal Talk

Maybe the beast enlargement works and penis enlargement doesn't though

(11-05-2014, 07:59 PM)RisingSon Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, I'm quite busy with AM6 and the remaining trifecta of Six Stage 5G programs. So much that I never really thought to pursue IYPS, but I will still voice against discrimination.

If IYPS has been abandoned, then surely all foreseen and current subs involving the increase/decrease of female (sexual) body parts should also be brought to a screeching halt.

That is only fair. Let's not be sexist, here.

I don't believe Shannon's reasons for abandoning IYPS is sexist in nature. He has stated himself that he abandoned the program because: 1) HE wasn't satisfied with the results that were being produced by IYPS. 2) He believes to one degree or another that having an IYPS title in the store will reduce the credibility of his products in general and will deter new-comers from even trying out any of his titles.

I find these reasons to be flawed, in my opinion, for the following reasons: 1) He stated himself that most users gained 0.75" to 1.25" inches in length. Those are impressive/significant gains, in my opinion. Likewise, he also has stated he can optimize the program to make attaining 2-3" a greater possibility. In this case, if he's unsatisfied with the results, the solution shouldn't be to drop the program when there is a good number of people who would wish to purchase it in 5G with an optimized script, but to actually make the script/program that much more powerful to produce the results that would make him, and more importantly, the customer, happy. 2) If an IYPS is thought to reduce the credibility of your business, then a breast enlargement subliminal should have the same effect. I don't see why IYPS would deter customers while breast enlargement subs wouldn't. If anything, I think a IYPS program with before/after photos (or video) would be just about the most definitive proof anyone could ever hope for that subliminal programs actually work. Testimonials of physical changes with accompanying pictures/videos that are otherwise considered to be unchangeable (such as penis size, breast size, height, or eye color) should be able to sway non-believers and those up against the fence about the effectiveness and legitimacy of subliminal programs more than any other type of program or program testimonial. Anyway can write a testimonial about how you feel more confident and are more respected and feel more emotionally sound as a man due to the Alpha Male program. However, potential customers who read those testimonials, no matter how in depth they are, don't actually get to see those results. They merely have to take the word of a person who they don't know. With IYPS or an eye color change subliminal or increase height, etc, if photographs and/or video is taken then it will be hard to dispute. If someone takes a testimonial video of them prior to using IYPS 5G with updated/optimized script and is 6" long and 5" girth and shows, in HD, the entire measuring process with a predetermined distance from the camera and then takes another HD video 6 months later using the same ruler, measuring tape, and is the same distance from the camera and is now 8" long and 6.5" girth....then....what dispute can there be? That's undeniable proof. If there was CGI involved, you would be able to tell instantly. If it was camera angle tricks, you would be able to tell instantly (which is why distance would be controlled). The only concern would be, I suppose, finding people who would be willing to take video of themselves as a testimonial. However, I'm sure the privacy issue would be bypassed if the results were actually that astonishing (producing 2+" in length and 1.5+" in girth).

This is just my opinion of course. [/b]

(11-08-2014, 03:18 PM)Guero Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe the beast enlargement works and penis enlargement doesn't though

That's not the case. Both programs have resulted in considerable changes to bust size and penis size, respectively. Shannon stated himself that most users have gained 0.75" to 1.25" in length using the 4G IYPS program. Results with IYPS have just been slower overall, probably due to the structure of the penis (smooth muscle, tunica, ligaments, etc) rather than primarily fat, like in breasts.

There is no sexism going on. The fact of the matter is, there is a social stigma against penis enlargement, and there is not a social stigma against breast enlargement. If anything, the sexism comes from those who perpetuate that state of affairs. I am simply doing what I believe is best for the business at this time. We may have a separate adult oriented store later, and if that is the case then I will gladly create a new penis enlargement program for that store. But for a store of the general audience type, I have to bow to the perceptions and responses of the average person who comes to that store - which is to laugh and walk away convinced that it's a scam, before they ever try anything, when they see such a thing.

To get the business to the next level, you do what's right for the business. And that means listening to the majority of your customers, not just the vocal few with a passionate interest in something. We will try to please everyone, but if that is not possible, like any businessperson, I will do what makes the business as a whole thrive the most.

Month 4 is complete.Still i gained only 0.2 inches and it seems that will be most likely it.
I am so disillusioned at this point i lost all hope i will gain anything in the next 2 months.The sorrow will never end unless 5g is released, but even with that one, i won't hold my breath i'll gain with it.

I reckon you should use it for a full 6-months before asking for a Refund. There is still the chance you might get growth between 6 and 12 months if the program has been well installed.

0.2 inches longer penis is a small success, rather than a total failure, so the program is working to some extent.

If the program is well installed, then going on to other subs in the future may unblock some resistance that is generic (affecting several programs) and out of the blue you discover your penis growing longer again even though a year or two has gone by.

Month 5 complete + 1 week of month 6 as well.Still no changes.
3 weeks to go and then i'm throwing in the towel.
Since 5g won't come anytime soon(if ever) i'll give a shot penis hanging.

You know, mixing methods means we cannot definitively know if the sub worked (or would have worked) or not...

(10-06-2014, 06:32 PM)Creative Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2014, 11:15 PM)Joronda Wrote: [ -> ]If having a larger penis is vitally important to you, then you should follow the instructions carefully, or hire the lady who helped Cinderella to the Ball.

what do you mean by "follow the instructions"?

Use one sub at a time, and keep using it for the recommended time, resisting the temptation to use two of more subs some days.

(01-13-2015, 08:53 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You know, mixing methods means we cannot definitively know if the sub worked (or would have worked) or not...

well month 6 is complete.Very dissapointed with this one but i still believe a 5G would make me gain something...too bad we will never see it.
p.s. gonna use it for 15 more days , then i'm trying some other methods

(02-06-2015, 03:32 PM)Creative Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Shannon' pid='67196' dateline='1421168001']


well month 6 is complete.Very dissapointed with this one but i still believe a 5G would make me gain something...too bad we will never see it.
p.s. gonna use it for 15 more days , then i'm trying some other methods

What tools are you using In your aid aside from the sub?

(02-06-2015, 03:37 PM)Womanizer Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-06-2015, 03:32 PM)Creative Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Shannon' pid='67196' dateline='1421168001']


well month 6 is complete.Very dissapointed with this one but i still believe a 5G would make me gain something...too bad we will never see it.
p.s. gonna use it for 15 more days , then i'm trying some other methods

What tools are you using In your aid aside from the sub?

this subs are the only thing i used.Now they i will next them and swtch to manual hanging.

(03-27-2011, 05:04 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Funny story... the first version of this program came out during the 2nd Generation of subs as a customer request back when I was selling on ebay still. I built it to spec and it was a custom. The guy wanted to make it as big as possible, and would not back down when I told him that wasn't wise. So he got what he wanted, and paid for.

Six months later, same guy comes back and says... "Can you make something to make it smaller? It won't fit in my wife anymore." I about busted a gut.

Do you still have this sub script and could you make me a custom sub for it?
I am looking to gain exactly 2.5 inches

How much would you charge? Please PM me if need be.

Shannon, does the level of testosterone a person has effect the results of this subliminal?