Subliminal Talk

I'm not a big fan of SM but in this situation i would choose SM.because instead of focusing to manifest someone in your life(AYP) it focuses on YOU and makes you more better in general.

Also there is high chance that you attract a better lover after one run of SM or any self improvement sub.

Another run of WM2 so you are so high value so you don't need any AYP at all. Rich girl just fall onto your lap out of desperation :angel:

Stage 3, Day 29



Well been quite a while since my last update. Where to start? I will admit that most of this stage has been kicking my @SS. I don't know why, but it seems a recurring theme now that every time I get to the "Big guns" stage in the six month sets I get my @ss handed to me. Most of the negatives in this stage has passed but I still get it every once in a while. For whatever reason this stage seems to flare up my PTSD and make me feel a torrent of different emotions sometimes. On the positive though I have felt a new surge in determination towards reaching my long term goals and pretty much being Apathetic towards anything that would not further them. This apathetic attitude has also shown up in my social interactions as well. Before I knew it I was very relaxed in social situations simply because I didn't care either way. Right now I don't really care about women or socializing. If socializing happens, that's fine. If it doesn't then that's also fine. Also, I've pretty much abandoned all types of media (downloading TV shows, Movies, playing games). All those forms of media bore me to death now except for the occasional documentary here and there. The only thing that gives me any joy right now is reading and music. I don't know why but through out this stage I have been reading practically everyday since I've been on this stage.

Women wise not much has happened, which i'm not surprised about since this is the last foundation building phase. The only thing I've noticed is that slowly more women have been sitting by me in my classes. Another thing I've noticed is my observational intuition is like some kinda of "Spider Sense" when it comes to people I don't like. What will happen is that I will see the person and a voice will come into my head that says "I'm not going to like this person" (Which I assume is based on their body language and Tonality of their voice). Soon afterwards of observing this person after a week or so I find that I can't stand the person or find them annoying. A about a week after that I start to "Consciously" notice their body language and I start thinking, "oh so that's starting to make since now". At least that's the best way I can explain it.

As for the future, I have decided to put off deciding between AYP subs and Sex magnet until I get near the end of stage 5. I feel like right now since this stage is making me emotional at times that It would be best to make that decision later when I have a clear head. I have decided though that if I do use the AYP sexual lovers 5G sub I will keep using it until I have 3 or 4 Sexual lovers. The king needs his Harem after all . Most likely (Hopefully) they will be Bi-females. Foursomes here I come!!!

I have definitely made a solid decision about my next 2 subs before my next AM6 run though. I came to my decision when I came to realize something about the concept of Weakness in this stage. I was thinking in this stage about how much people don't realize their full potential. I mean there are some people who have legitimate excuses and can't do much about their situations (small children, physically disabled, mentally disabled, Elderly) but those probably only make up about 3% of the population. So, question comes with whats up with the other 97% of otherwise healthy adults. When I really thought about it I came to the realization that we are only as weak as our minds are. Weakness only exists in our minds. If there is weakness in our beliefs/thinking then that will translate to bad choices/actions which then have negative consequences on our lives. This thinking cemented for me when I remembered reading about how the Top 1% of wealthiest individuals are there on year and then the next year 50% of them are no longer in that category. Why aren't they? Its because they made a financial decision that broke them. That just drove home the point that no matter who you are, your beliefs/thinking will lead to actions that will either make you or break you.

With that in mind, I realized that during this stage I still have some weakness in my mind that I want to totally clear out. Obviously, I won't get all of it but I would be glad to get rid of 95% of it. Therefore I decided after doing the AYP subs I will probably be doing EPRHA for 6 months, LTU for 6 months, and then AM6 again. I'm doing it in that order because I want to take a more marginal approach. From what I've seen on the sales page EPRHA has roughly 5% of whats in LTU and LTU has about 30% of whats in AM6. I feel like I want to master the concepts in EPRHA this time around (along with clearing out the junk in my head), then move on to LTU to master a bit more new concepts while still reinforcing that 5% in EPHRA. Then I can move onto mastering that remaining 70% of concepts in AM6 (which shouldn't be too hard since I already have most of them).

Other than the above not much has been going on. Only have a few days left in this stage and can't wait to move onto the next. Hopefully since next stage is a manifestation stage I will see a few more external results.

Stage 3, Day 32

Well, I actually went back and calculated my days again and I actually miscalculated somewhere. I found out that today is actually my last day on stage 3 and starting tonight I will begin stage 4. I'm actually relieved because I really do want to get off this stage since it has been less than "Stellar". Anyway, review for stage 3:

Internal Results: I gained a lot more determination towards reaching my goals. Along with this I pretty much don't waste my time with things that don't further my long term goals as well. I feel like I this has also rubbed off on my thoughts about women these days. If I don't see anything see myself becoming serious with the woman and she can add more growth to my life, I really don't pay attention to her all that much. I'm starting to take more practical considerations when thinking about relationships. Do any of these women try to improve themselves? Would they actually help me towards self-development or would they hinder me? I think that last question has been a major one for me. Another thing that I've mentioned is that I've become very, very calm during social interactions. This is mostly due to the apathetic attitude I've been having towards social interactions. Any use of most media is almost none existent. One other benefit has been that I can now go long periods of time without looking at porn. It like one day I said I would kick the habit and have gone up to two weeks without looking at it.

External results: Not much to say here. I've noticed women in my classes deciding to sit by me now, though not necessarily talking to me. I've also had 3 incidents of random people just trying to start a conversation with me out of the blue. Other than that, not much has happened. I'm not surprised though since, like i said in my previous post, manifestation doesn't really start until next stage.


On a side note, later yesterday I ran into a female I know and the conversation was annoying to say the least. I don't know why I keep running into these women that SXlt shame other women who have sex with men within a few days of meeting them. I really don't get that mentality. The way I see it is that there are some people who get comfortable with a new partner very quickly and are up to having sex within a few days. Others aren't as comfortable with that and want to wait til much later. Honestly, its just up to the personal preference of the person themselves with what they are comfortable with. Its one thing to say, "Hey, I respect their decision but that course just isn't for me". Its another thing entirely to go on about how women who sleep with a new partner within days of meeting them are "SluXs" and "disgusting". I mean, there are many cultures where they see Sex as something more natural and not a big deal. Does that mean that your way is the only right way and that all the women in those cultures are "Sluxs" and disgusting? I would like to say that I respect that women's position concerning herself but part of me thinks a lot of it is societal programming. I finding more and more that people who use fear, shame, and guilt against people like above are nothing more than sheep that see other sheep starting to stray to far and use these things to try and get them back in the heard. I find that the people who use these "weapons" are most often the most indoctrinated people and often don't even question their own beliefs about the subject. Another interesting coincidence i'm finding with the women who have this view (Not that its wrong that "they live this way" but that they believe "everyone" should follow this way or that person is a Slux) are normally they are the least attractive females and have very little if any actual dating experience. I wonder sometimes if the women with these bitter and jaded views towards sexual relations are mostly that way because of their bad experiences with men and feel they need to put down other women to feel vindicated. I guess I will never really know. Either way, thought I would voice that since that conversation yesterday hit a nerve for some reason. I'm very intolerant towards people who use these shaming tools due to societal programming nowadays.

great journal dude you describe 80% of how i feel only that it is more extreme and i have more interactions with women (day 45.)

keep it up i missed your posts

Wth is 45 days lol

(03-08-2015, 06:55 AM)Fonzy3 Wrote: [ -> ]Wth is 45 days lol

He did every stage for 66 days each. And the extreme thing started from days 45 stage 1.

I know, he can speak for himself.
But that's not right...

(03-08-2015, 07:51 PM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-08-2015, 06:55 AM)Fonzy3 Wrote: [ -> ]Wth is 45 days lol

He did every stage for 66 days each. And the extreme thing started from days 45 stage 1.

What's the benefit of doing that? It's in the instructions you can do up to 64 days a stage but why would you do it?

(03-08-2015, 10:59 PM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-08-2015, 07:51 PM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-08-2015, 06:55 AM)Fonzy3 Wrote: [ -> ]Wth is 45 days lol

He did every stage for 66 days each. And the extreme thing started from days 45 stage 1.

What's the benefit of doing that? It's in the instructions you can do up to 64 days a stage but why would you do it?

My educated guess is because it doesn't have OE (while AM6 and SM3 do have it). So results typically take longer due to the lower amount of focus on each of the focus points of the stages. Not a slight on WM, it merely was developed before OE and OGSF became Shannon's SOP. I'm sure it's still extremely powerful.

Stage 4, Day 10

Been a while, so I thought I would update you guys. So far, this stage sucks BAD! I find myself thinking about certain instances in my past and getting angry about them or emotional. I also noticed that my social anxiety just spiked with this stage for some reason. I remember I rose my hand in class last week to elaborate on something the teacher was talking about. I already knew what I was about to say but as soon as I got his attention (along with the classes) my mind just froze up for some reason. I just felt this extreme amount of fear all of a sudden. I was really angry with myself afterwards because after AM6 (also during the early stages of WM) fear was practically non-existent in my life. I really didn't care about what people think or worry about things. It just felt weird to not have felt fear for a couple of months and then all of a sudden it just rages right back. I looked at Jimbobday's journal again to see if their were any similarities and I would say that I feel exactly like he felt while on stage 4. This stage just seems to be bringing up a lot of Anxiety for some reason. That's all the bad things so far anyway.

As for the good stuff, I have finally decided to purchase a new wardrobe. It a mixture between formal and casual. Within the first few days of this stage I finally just gave in and decided to buy it since its been sitting on my online cart for a while. Also, all forms of media entertainment are dead to me pretty much now. The last video game I was playing up to this point was FFXIV. I still play it a little bit now but I'm noticing that sometimes I just log in, walk around for a few mins, and then proceed to log out. I'm just finding it boring now. The only forms of entertainment I seem to enjoy now are Music and reading. I've also noticed that I'm getting that weird occurrence again during this stage of where I think of someone I haven't seen a while and that same person contacts me somehow within the next few days. One other thing to touch upon is the whole "lasting longer in bed issue". I know others have asked about this concerning WM in other areas of the forum so I thought I would shed some light on this. With me it hasn't been like SM where you can last as long as you want until you "decide" to orgasm. In my experience so far its been more of a you orgasm, and you aren't as tired afterwards so you can keep going a few more rounds.

I have finally come to some decisions regarding my future sub use which will be depended on what happens during this run of WM. If stage 5 doesn't deliver on the manifestation part I'm most likely going run EPHRA for the summer, and then Proceed on to the Sexual Lover 5G AYP sub and Financially wealthy lover sub soon afterwards. After the AYP subs I will go on with what I mentioned before with doing LTU for 6 months and then do AM6 again. IF WM does deliver on manifestation then I'm going to do the AYP subs, EPRHA, LTU, and then AM6. So essentially, I will be going 1 of 2 ways:

EPRHA>AYP (Sexual lover 5G/Wealthy Romantic lover)>LTU>AM6
OR
AYP>EPRHA>LTU>AM6

The only thing that will be changing is whether I will be doing EPRHA sooner or later. If I'm not getting manifestation during WM I'm going to assume its because I have some "junk" beliefs left over blocking the manifestation. Hence why I would be running EPRHA sooner in that case. I'm also thinking about doing another AM6 run after the next to further cement the results. I do think though, like I said before, if I go the EPRHA (makes up 5% of LTU)>LTU (Makes up about 34% of AM6)>AM6(Makes up 100% of EPRHA/98% of LTU) I will probably getting permanent results since I'm going to be reinforcing a lot of the precepts from the previous sub in the rotation. Only time will tell though if this rotation will be as good as I think it is.You'll also notice that SM is no where to be seen on this rotation. The reason is that I want to get permanent type B results to the point where I won't even have to run AM6 for quite a while afterwards. Only after that do I then want to change my focus to external manifestations. Its interesting that at the beginning of using subs I was more focus on getting external results (mostly women). Now, I'm honestly more concerned with making myself as strong internally as possible. I guess i could say, to paraphrase Thomas Greene's book, "I have declared unceasing war on myself and against my own weakness".

The only reason I'm doing the AYPs somewhat before my new rotation is because: (1) I wouldn't mind having a "long-term" sexual relationship with 4 "Perfect" lovers while doing this internal development process. (2) This would give me some experience with "poly" type relationships so I know how to handle the relationship dynamics.

*Edit* Oh, and I forgot to mention.Since last Friday I have been using Sleep phones(with Silent track). First night of using them, had 2 dreams that night. So, I'm probably going to be using those for now on since they are more comfortable sleeping in than my turtle beaches.

I have been going through this all through using both am's .

All it's doing is bringing up things that are not congruent with the incoming programming.

Your just processing,just keep pushing through it.

Look at your triggers,why things are coming up and look at them.

I am going to run Ephra after I finish am6,because I am really not ready for the magnets yet.

I do not have all the bullet points from am6 yet. I will re-evaluate after I finish am6.

(03-08-2015, 10:59 PM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-08-2015, 07:51 PM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-08-2015, 06:55 AM)Fonzy3 Wrote: [ -> ]Wth is 45 days lol

He did every stage for 66 days each. And the extreme thing started from days 45 stage 1.

What's the benefit of doing that? It's in the instructions you can do up to 64 days a stage but why would you do it?

Ricardo, sorry for late answer. AfzalG doing that because he found an article that he believe to change habit permanently it took 66 days. And because in the instruction said we can do 32 or 64 days /stage, he choose to do it 66 days.

Look like my answer is confusing. lol. Sorry my bad english.

Koshas- That does make a lot of sense. I hope EPHRA actually removes a lot of it though because it gets really annoying and aggitating when I get to a stage in a program and I have to go through a whole month of reliving my worst moments. >_>

GlaizenGold777- It was actually because of what AfzalG actually mentioned ,along with a post by Imfreedman about it taking just as long to make new neural pathways, that i'm considering doing another AM6 run after the next. Read about it here:

http://examinedexistence.com/how-you-can...ew-habits/

As you will also see, they also mentioned that it could take up to 200 days for some people to develop those new neural pathways for new habits. I wonder if this is why alot of people get better results with Single stage sets as well. Its less content to digest in a single stage sub, and that same content is being suggested to develop those new neural pathways for more than the average 66 days (if you do it for at least 3 months anyway).