(08-24-2014, 05:22 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:In the future I would like to run a test of this for older adults, especially if Shannon releases a 6g version. I have thought about adding in some physical stimulus to go with it by using some gravity boots and hanging upside down for 15-30 minutes per day while doing some work.
You guys really know how to do this, don't you. If you don't use it alone, how do you know the sub did anything at all? You can't. Use it alone.
Quote:Used it for a month and experienced no results. Being that it was my Senior year of college, the 8+ hours a day was a bit rough, and I couldn't afford to not be well rested so night listening was out. I might try again, but I think nothing works if your belief systems don't support it. : (
It works whether or not your belief system supports it. It changes your belief system to become the result. But you need to use it long enough, and you need to be young enough that your bones have not fused. Bone does not grow quickly. It's designed for 6 to 18 months of use. Andrew used it for over a year, and gained about an inch of height.
Therein lies my issue with this..."Bone fusing" is a limiting belief in this context. By the ages where one would have the disposable income to get this, it's likely that you're already an adult. I was really excited about the optimus engine and everything you described about the 5G's, because I imagined that they would be able to overcome any belief counter to me being able to get taller at age 23(now 24), even if an element of that is the suggestion that 'You are now capable of getting taller,regardless of age' somehow embedded in the sub.
If that's how the sub is designed, I will gladly dedicate the time needed for it to see results, because that one belief would also empower any other method I utilize afterwards in a major way.
I saw this guy who'd grown taller with hypnosis and he was definitely out of the age range for it,it seems like the limiting factor in terms of how fast you see results is always the time it takes to develop the belief (subconsciously) that you
can or are capable of what you want.
This is why I'm using 'Everything is possible' as a primer for this sub especially. I clearly need something to help deal with this collective belief that age limits our ability to grow.
An inch taller is quite a lot if you are a girl.
Can you imagine priming your subconscious to aim for 815 years of healthy, sexy, vibrant living?
It is entirely possible that OE can get people to grow taller even after their bones are fused. However, I have no evidence or tests showing that, and very little feedback, so I try to keep people from happily deluding themselves into believing what they want to believe by stating what we currently believe to be universally true, which is, after bones fuse, we may not be able to grow further.
If OE can get people growing again, please do let me know. I'll devote some more resources to studying that.
Hmm...probably it's something I am willing to try if it comes in 6G. Since I am 30+ my bones are fused.
(09-20-2014, 12:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It is entirely possible that OE can get people to grow taller even after their bones are fused. However, I have no evidence or tests showing that, and very little feedback, so I try to keep people from happily deluding themselves into believing what they want to believe by stating what we currently believe to be universally true, which is, after bones fuse, we may not be able to grow further.
If OE can get people growing again, please do let me know. I'll devote some more resources to studying that.
I think the issue is that if someone has gotten to this method of possibly increasing their height, they are probably also using other (LOA based/energetic) methods of doing so, which have the potential to confound the purity of the results of the subliminal by itself. I'll tell you right now, I have seen some results from using the EIP sub (8-16+ hours each day) coupled with other methods, so I *know* it is possible to grow after your bones are theoretically 'fused'. But even when I start running GT5GOE, I won't be forgoing the other methods, because clearly the height thing is something of utmost import that I keep seeing results no matter what.
Now herein is the biggest kicker, I have a strong suspicion that my idea to use EIP beforehand is the *determining factor* that caused any sort of methods to work at all. As I said in another thread post, I consider it a priming mechanism for any sort of 'beyond belief' sort of exploit. I own a stadiometer, as i'm really quite serious about this, which is how I was able to realize I had grown, (i've been attempting to grow since December) and absolutely nothing was working.
And I should point out, I know the stories about being taller in the morning,etc.etc., but I had made multiple measurements in the morning before using EIP+ my methods, and at night. So I knew where I sat, and that's why it was a shock to see even that single mm and a half, after nearly a decade of no increase. So again, my theory is that you can successfully use methods that differ from our collective limiting belief if you use EIP beforehand.
The key, so to speak, is that you're appealing to the subconscious mind, no matter what, and it doesn't perceive any limitations to begin with(what do you think helps coordinate all your cellular interactions/hormonal levels,etc.etc.,perfectly and with no conscious effort?) so if IT believes you can grow, you will. Whelp, we'll see. As far as i'm concerned, any growth after you originally stopped, that isn't coming from stuff like stretching/swimming is proof that you CAN use these methods. I want anyone that's resigned themselves to being 'short' to know there's definitely hope.
I would ask that when I release the 5G, that you do not use it with anything else. If you do, you will never know what did the trick. And if my program does the trick, then we're into something I need to study more closely. How will we know otherwise?
I think your post is great, though, because I think when I do make the 5G, I am going to add EIP to it.
(09-30-2014, 09:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I would ask that when I release the 5G, that you do not use it with anything else. If you do, you will never know what did the trick. And if my program does the trick, then we're into something I need to study more closely. How will we know otherwise?
I think your post is great, though, because I think when I do make the 5G, I am going to add EIP to it.
Isn't Grow Taller already 5G?
I spend all my time focusing on developing new things. I don't always keep track of everything that's been done, so I apologize. You're right, it is. If I tried to remember everything about everything that has already been done, I would never be able to advance this stuff.
There has to be a way to grow the body much taller, coz Jack's Beanstalk's Giant managed to.
(06-26-2014, 03:42 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]In the future I would like to run a test of this for older adults, especially if Shannon releases a 6g version. I have thought about adding in some physical stimulus to go with it by using some gravity boots and hanging upside down for 15-30 minutes per day while doing some work.
I suspect a good diet with plenty of vitamin D, vitamin K2, calcium, magnesium and protein would assist if it is going to work.
using gravity boots for hanging upside down regularly stretched my back bone for a day or two and gave me 1-2 inches. but it did damage my ligaments.
At that time I was using hypnosis, I didn't come across IML subs.
I have some priorities right now, I hope to use grow taller after two months, and deliver a testimonial.
So, the 5g version is out, and from what I understand EIP is included in it. I was just wondering if I can use HGH release enhancer along with another 4g sub for 32 days as a primer before using GT5G.
Yes. But of course not along with GT5G at the same time.
(10-19-2014, 10:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Yes. But of course not along with GT5G at the same time.
Yes Sir.
(09-20-2014, 01:04 PM)sebastian Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm...probably it's something I am willing to try if it comes in 6G. Since I am 30+ my bones are fused.
Maybe, you might be in the 5% group of the Bell-shaped curve that are not part of the normal pattern. New breeds of animals, insects, fish and birds are created from variances to the norm.
I have come across a few people with fused minds in recent years. Even an atomic bomb wouldn't make them change their limiting beliefs.