Subliminal Talk

Hey Guys,

I may look like a new member, but i have previously been active on this forum, recently had to delete my journals and most of my posts because I made the silly decision of using my Twitter/Facebook/Psn/Everything else username, and it meant whenever people searched for me, it was showing results for my journal on this site, lets say it was a little awkward getting teased by my friends for using programs like BIATBWS whilst they all had their games fully in tact.

So in retrospect, heres to starting a new. I'll give you a little background about me. I'm 22 years old, a university study (Freshman). I have used a number of Shannon's products in the past and I'll give you a brief run down.

AM5.0 Although I bought this ages ago I never used it for ages, finished it about 3 months ago. Key things I noticed about AM was that it was an insanely emotional journey, at some points around the second and third stage I felt like a psychologist analysing every aspect of my own life, even facing some dark moments head on. The program was successful I believe, since completing I have felt much more in control of my everyday life, so much better organised than ever before, My work improved greatly and I managed to completely focus and ace my college exams around stage 3 as well. I know the majority of guys on this site have already experienced AM and to anyone who hasn't tried it, just go for it, if you want to change your life in the quickest way possible for the better then this is what you are looking for, you will come out a totally different person, from boy to man.

DAOS 4G, this was one of the first programs i used (I think), umm, what can I say about this one, besides the fact that this is my absolute favourite and have resorted back to it many times, this program makes me feel amazing about myself and does attract beautiful women around, it makes the whole socialising aspect fun and the attention you get is just amazing. This sub is the reason I know I can rely on Shannon's work, the first time i used i was noticing differences in myself and others around me in around 4 days, a truly amazing sub.

BIATBWS 3G: This sub did for me something very similar to DAOS in that it lured beautiful women towards me, and made socialising with them easier, I thought this sub was powerful, and i didn't actually realise until a few minutes ago that i had been using the 3G version.

LJFAME: This sub i found very useful as this is the major at university, I used for around a month and recently if I've been really struggling I play this while studying for maybe half an hour and it really helps me to memorise the language easier, especially the Kanji. Half an hour every week normally motivates me a lot swell, and i notice i am more willing to sit and study or engage in the language somehow for the 3 or 4 days after listening. This is the only language sub I have used, but would recommend them to others, especially the user should listen to it for around a month as many hours as possible first.

So, Here we go, I've always been strongly affected by Shannon's subliminals in the past, normally responding to or beginning to see results within 3 or 4 days, albeit not the desired outcome but beginning to notice changes early on. I did buy Sex Magnet 2.0 in the last Autumn sale for like $60 or something (EDIT: previously I stated I hadn't used sm2 but after checking play history on iTunes I had racked up over 450 plays for stage 1-5 and 226 for stage 6), After about 3 weeks of reading journals and trying to decide between AM6 and SM3, I have chose SM3 because inevitably i'm going to be doing both at some point anyway, and i just really wanted to try a 5G sub for the first time.

I am buying it in parts, which is another reason I chose SM3 as my bursary comes in monthly and its not a huge amount, so i couldn't afford to make a one off $500 payment just now. So I purchased Stage 1+2 on monday.

Quick Question for Shannon, or anyone who knows: Buying it in parts its grouped in 2's, (stage 1-2, 3-4, 5-6) is stage 7 included in the final stage, and if not would you consider selling it separate, as this is the greatest thing about your programs the refresher stage for AM5 was extremely valuable and saved a lot of time...

Anyways, like I said, I bought the program on Monday and started using straight away.
Today is officially stage 1 day 3, and I don't know how to report entirely whats going on so ill try to explain lol
Since using AM i have been really confident but was zoo busy focused on college and getting into university haven't really had much time to focus on women, or had much success with them since. My self confidence hasn't been an issue though. So this morning I wake up, the sub has playing all night and I am insanely drowsier than normal, I get out of bed and have a shower and rush around to leave my accommodation and get to class, at this point i feel like i have no energy and im just a sluggish student heading slowly to class. Within a few minutes I reach the bus stop and this fairly attractive girl walking past me smiles and says hi, I don't know what happened I just suddenly perked up, got on the bus and all of a sudden I'm in a really good mood and have a ton of energy, I literally feel amazing, I meet up with one of my classmates when i get off the bus, we smoke a cigarette and he comments on how chirpy and hyper I am today. It was weird.

Anyway in class today, i noticed the girl opposite me keeps staring at me, which i begin to feel uncomfortable about, as the lesson goes on im asked a question and i get it wrong, which isn't a big deal has happened before and will no doubt happen again lol, but my body reacted in a way it hasn't since way before i did alpha male, my face goes really warm and i'm convinced im blushing, but i don't feel embarrassed or ashamed or anything, just insanely hot, it was an odd experience. Anyways next was speaking and i got partnered with a quite hot girl and for some reason im suddenly starting to feel hot again, as i am talking i can feel my face getting warmer and i notice the exact same thing is happening to her whenever she speaks, we have spoke before many times, but today we looked like two insanely shy people meeting each other for the first time, but i wasn't shy, (if you know what i mean) just really hot. weird experience and even weirder that she was also becoming red in the face and adjusting her collar. So cool that this sub is doing something, Anyone else had this blushing feeling or could elaborate on why I'm starting to blush lol.

Anyways after class i'm smoking outside with my classmate and the amount of girls walking past that say hey or hi is mental, my classmate asks me "if we suddenly became really really popular?" I just smile and say, "Yup! its happened" normally people don't acknowledge the smokers unless its someone they know, so today I had a good wake up to the power of the 5th Generation. I'm only 3 days in and i know something is definitely happening. Shannon, I've said it on my other account ages ago, but "you are a legend" I'm excited to see what else comes off this program, I'll update regularly, aim for a minimum of weekly but should be more frequent.

P.S does anyone know the link to the instructions.pdf for SM3 I can't find them anywhere on the forum or the site, and wasn't included in the order?

Stage 1 Day 4

It's early on in the program, but there is one thing I am already really liking. Euphoria - I feel bliss for most of the day, well have the last 2. However I dunno why i chose to go out to a small music event tonight at my local bar, but for some reason, i just went. I've been to busy with coursework to go out much the last few months, so it was a real change to be out on a weeknight especially. I choose to go out for an unknown reason, i get to the event and its not a huge place but it is really busy, could barely move. Within 20 minutes I am chatting away to a girl I used to flirt back when i came to uni when i was almost finished AM, after like 20 minutes of chatting away, i completely shrug her off. Last semester, i was really into her, and at the beginning of the conversation i was like whoa she is still quite hot, but dunno i didn't feel it.

After being in the place for an hour and feeling the crap atmosphere of the place, the music was okay but they need better amps. I begin to notice something very similar and insidious, I suddenly feel like im on AM again, back at the start, where people really annoyed me, i found myself getting really in my head complaining about stupid stuff, and every person that i had to move for so they could squeeze past, began to really bug the crap out of me.

So by day i feel amazing and ready for anything, and by night apparently im hating people, Very similar to what I had in AM5. Hopefully the euphoric feelings stick around. I am loving the extra attention when I am at university.

Interesting ride so far, definitely hitting me harder and faster than previous subs.

5 days into stage 1

5 days of weirdness.
-my state keeps flipping, the sub is extremely tiring so in the mornings I'm pretty much a zombie, although it only takes even the slightest bit of contact from an attractive girl and I'm suddenly energized (like I've just chugged a crate of red bull)

- a lot more females are now staring at me, smiling at me, saying hey as they walk buy 'but saying it in the way that they already know me, like we're good friends'

- if there is a girl I know around, even some of the girls from my dorms that I've barely spoke to, they go out of there way sometimes even doing a double take if they walk past and then approaching me to ask how my day is. Pretty cool, but they do this in the manner that implies we are friends, even though half these girls never even used to say hi, whenever I bumped into them around the dorms. It's weird, but the attention is fun.

- something weird keeps happening in conversation, if I'm talking to an attractive girl I can feel myself burning up, and can sense my cheeks going red, the same thing is happening to them, if they aren't wearing too much make up you can see their faces glowing. My friend actually asked why every second or so girl I speak to mine and her faces start to go bright red. So it's noticeable, but I'm not nervous, or feeling horny or anything, it's just a rise in body temperature.

- in Starbucks today, the girl who made my coffee called out my name and before I could collect it she pulled it back and added stuff to it, then could barely speak a word to me, when I asked her what she had forgotten, her face went really red and she looked like a deer in headlights lol. I could only think she was acting the way I used to act when I was a horny teen at my first job, and every hot girl I served made me think of sex, and thus embarrassing and awkward transactions. Probably not what she went through but brought back the memories lol

- dreams, mind is in SuperDrive, every night I'm waking up repeatedly and my dreams are extremely vivid, although the subject of the dreams are rather random, this morning I was convinced I hadn't even slept because the dreams were no so realistic.

- my room is tidy, for the first time since the day I moved, it's nice lol, I didn't even realise I was tidying, I was walking around with the sub playing practicing exercises in my textbook then after like an hour noticed my room was almost spotless. An awesome perk, it's nice to see the floor again lol

I know there's a few things I've forgotten, so much seems to be changing, but I'm noticing very little resistance, normally I'm used to facing a lot of resistance earliest on in the subs

Quote:Quick Question for Shannon, or anyone who knows: Buying it in parts its grouped in 2's, (stage 1-2, 3-4, 5-6) is stage 7 included in the final stage, and if not would you consider selling it separate, as this is the greatest thing about your programs the refresher stage for AM5 was extremely valuable and saved a lot of time...

I don't remember if it is or not, but worst case scenario, you just e-mail us after finishing Stage 6 and we'll send you a link.

Some answers for you...

Instructions are the general 5G instructions.

The exhaustion is the sub working your mind while you sleep. Might want to get a couple hours more sleep by going to bed earlier.

The sudden awakeness when you encounter an attractive female is your subconscious following the instructions, putting you in the right state to be sexually attractive. Exhausted isn't it.

The face burning between you and her is you reacting at a subconscious level with attraction, and her reacting with the same. It's you reacting with the right energy to arouse her, and her reacting with the arousal. But it is quite possibly entirely subconscious for her at this stage.

The female attention as if you are friends is actually them opening themselves up to you so you can move forward. So... whenever you want it to be more than friends... move forward.

(02-14-2014, 05:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Quick Question for Shannon, or anyone who knows: Buying it in parts its grouped in 2's, (stage 1-2, 3-4, 5-6) is stage 7 included in the final stage, and if not would you consider selling it separate, as this is the greatest thing about your programs the refresher stage for AM5 was extremely valuable and saved a lot of time...

I don't remember if it is or not, but worst case scenario, you just e-mail us after finishing Stage 6 and we'll send you a link.

Some answers for you...

Instructions are the general 5G instructions.

Thanks a lot Shannon for answering these queries!

(02-14-2014, 05:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The exhaustion is the sub working your mind while you sleep. Might want to get a couple hours more sleep by going to bed earlier.

The sudden awakeness when you encounter an attractive female is your subconscious following the instructions, putting you in the right state to be sexually attractive. Exhausted isn't it.

The face burning between you and her is you reacting at a subconscious level with attraction, and her reacting with the same. It's you reacting with the right energy to arouse her, and her reacting with the arousal. But it is quite possibly entirely subconscious for her at this stage.

The female attention as if you are friends is actually them opening themselves up to you so you can move forward. So... whenever you want it to be more than friends... move forward.

Whoa! Wait a second, are you actually saying that 5G is powerful enough to manifest woman around you and begin to trigger arousal on a subconscious level in a matter of days. This technology is insane, I didn't think it would that powerful, now I definitely have to buy AM6 after SM3. Right now I'm beyond impressed.


Not had much to report today since i have been working on an essay for most of the day. However on one of my cigarette breaks im heading outside to smoke and there is a hot girl 7-8 on the phone standing inside the main doorway, I smile and head outside, within a minute of standing outside she follows me out and pretty much stands next to me whilst still on the phone, She is talking to her mom, and keeps pulling faces at me (kind of like the oh my god face, and rolling her eyes, in response to her conversation of the phone). From what i can gather her Mom is coming to meet her, and she says to her mum that she has left her swipe card inside and locked herself out, so i reach into my pocket and gesture mine towards her, she reaches for it, and for a weird amount of time just kind of rubs her hand against mine whilst staring at me and smiling and still joking away to her mum, she does eventually take the card and opens the door, my phone rings so i answer and start speaking to my buddy, and im distracted for a moment, and feel her hand sliding down my side and putting my card back in my pocket and she whispers thanks.

Umm, Whoa! is all i have to say, I don't think I've ever seen this girl before and don't have a clue what her name is, strangers aren't normally that touchy feely so it was a cool experience.

6 days in, i can only imagine what this program will do after 6 months

What has been your history with women, generally speaking, till now?

Hey Sarge,

My history with women hasn't been great, i was in long term relationship for 5 years after that ended 2 years ago, I've probably only been with 3 other women, and 2 of them were the kind you wouldn't boast about lol, I had one decent girl show up about 2 weeks after i finished AM but after it went sexual she just kind of disappeared. So relationship 16 -21, and single since technically.

So definitely not that experienced, i have tonnes of female friends but advancing sexually always seems to fail, hence why i chose SM instead of WM.

Stage 1 day 8

After the weekend of being secluded and working, i had noticed a pattern, every girl i briefly spoke to was weirdly nice with me. After being exposed all weekend and not sleeping much sunday night because of the anticipation of a stressful appointment on Monday, I was beyond tired, By the end of lectures at 3 I just kind of slowly headed home. Was too tired too even acknowledge my surroundings. So i got in to my room, and debated about sleeping, but i had a ton of work to do. I started playing the sub, and within minutes i was energetic and super motivated, i sat and knocked out all the work i had to do that day in record time, even had time to make flashcards. Maybe its me, maybe its the sub, but in general my motivation towards the course im studying has definitely improved. Even today in classes i noticed a huge difference in my confidence with the subject.

So back to yesterday,,, and most of the weekend actually, I've had this drive to do as much as possible because I desperately want to go out, which is something i haven't had much time for the last few months. So as a student, the first week has improved my performance in that role, made me a bit more confident towards the language im studying, its good.

Although these are good results that the programme may or may not be focusing on, amongst all good things come the bad things. And in my case, its my own stupidity, maybe anxiousness or fear on some level.
This is what happened. Last night, I bumped into one of the sporty girls for my dorm, she was being over friendly but we were having good chat, I started joking about how she should hire a masseuse after such a busy day, she replied "i could do with a back rub and maybe a full body massage, to help me relax, if you know what i mean, Do you wanna come up for a bit?"

Oh my god, mini titan! you have our attention, what did you do? You went up there and had a wicked time right?
Nooooo!, i didn't it was so direct i thought it was a joke, and i was busy, she gave me another 3 chances to go with her before the conversation ended. I literally was too busy, It wasn't until after i had returned to my room and finished my work, that i realised what i just turned down/missed out on.

Maybe it was fear of some kind, I did feel turned on during the conversation but I dunno, it just seemed nothing major to walk away from, I had too much stuff to do, obviously that night in bed, i regretted that decision. Previously, if this had happened, i would be stuck in my head questioning what to say and do, there was nothing like that, weird no nerves at all. I guess changes are being made pretty rapidly with this sub, however resistance doesn't seem to be too obvious in any way, I guess 5g really is too advanced to resist.

After 14 days of using stage 1. What I've noticed soo far.

-my confidence is higher than before, especially when interacting with women.
-every women I speak to overly friendly towards me, I've heard the phrase "I'm soo lucky to have met you" multiple times
-I've had a few personal invitations to go off with a single girl, these always seem to occur when I'm busy, was walking towards a lecture on Thursday and started speaking to a cute girl, she also had a different lecture at the same time. She said she lived really close and almost begged me to bunk my class and go to hers. Ideal scenario, wrong moment.
-girls actively go out of their way to get noticed by me, one girl earlier in the week a few minutes before a lecture started, moved from where she was sitting around 3 rows behind me, and sat in the chair directly on my right, it's a massive lecture theater and that particular lecture only uses 30% capacity, so I'm in one of the centre rows with 8 or 9 empty chairs at either side of me and she sits directly next to me, it was annoying, she kept tapping her leg against mine every 2 seconds, really distracting, the fact that she was smoking hot already made it hard enough to focus on the professor.
-my room is super tidy, normally it is a massive mess, actively tidied it around 4 times since starting the sub.
- I don't eat much healthy food, so actively bought vitamins and a ton of fruit for my room, my energy levels since doing this are much higher than my previously lethargic self.

Awesome results!

If I were you, I'd skip a class one day just to have some fun.

As for the vitamins, I've heard many times that they don't absorb all that well into your body. It's best to just go all-out and live organically with lots of fruits and veggies. Don't know if that's feasible for you though.

Anyhow, I enjoy reading your journal. I plan to use this sub next so it's inspiring.

Being too busy doing what needs to be done to go screw is a good thing. It's a sure sign (to her) that you're a very high value man, who isn't desperate, and whom she can neither manipulate nor control. It makes them want you... more.

Telling a woman no is the best thing you can do to make her want you more for whatever you turned her down for. Especially sex! Of course it has to be done in the right way, and you cannot do it every time or she'll get discouraged and give up. But, you have the option of saying, "I'm busy with ___ right now, but tell you what. If you want to get together, I'm free on ___ day at __ time. Meet me at ___ if you're interested."

Then go about doing whatever as if you've completely forgotten she was interested and you could not care less. If she's interested, she'll show up and it's all good. If not, she wasn't really interested, and she's not wasting your time, and it's still all good.

(02-25-2014, 05:31 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]"I'm busy with ___ right now, but tell you what. If you want to get together, I'm free on ___ day at __ time. Meet me at ___ if you're interested."

Then go about doing whatever as if you've completely forgotten she was interested and you could not care less. If she's interested, she'll show up and it's all good. If not, she wasn't really interested, and she's not wasting your time, and it's still all good.

Totally agree, but for me, doing what I want is more important. Maybe it makes the girl want me more, but if I am saying "no" to make her want me more, it's just as bad as being desperate imo.

After 21 days of using this sub, I don't have too much to report for the last week. Mainly because I've been ill all week, had 2 sick days completely off uni, and when I've been in. I haven't really felt up to interacting because of the bug I've got.

Even in my sickly death like state, I'm still getting a lot of attention but lack the energy to act on any conversations, I have found myself trying to avoid people this last week, probably because I'm ill and not the sub.

Thanks sarge and Shannon, when I'm feeling better I really want to put more investment time into all the opportunities. I'm enjoying the attention, it's really weird even when there is nothing much to talk about some girls just linger, I did have one who stood next to me for 10 minutes without saying more than 5 words, she just stated at me, it was intense, if I wasn't so drained I could have made so much more of that interaction (I hope).

You definitely should do this sub next sarge, can't wait to read your full results after am6

@Minititan

just bought the last set and there is no refresher stage in there just for the information...