Subliminal Talk

Hi @Shannon,

I've been a member for years and used your programs on and off ever since. I'd like to ask for your guidance on something that keeps repeating with some products.

My primary issue is pornography. Before this most recent episode I had been completely clean for two months, no consumption, no urges, and no sign I was heading back to it. Things felt genuinely stable.

I chose PTSD Recovery Aid deliberately. I can trace this back to my school years: I was bullied by my peers, and that is when I started escaping into pornography. It has always functioned as a coping mechanism for what happened back then, so my reasoning was that working on the root rather than the behaviour would be the right angle.

Two days after I started PRA v2c (6.5G), I relapsed three times in the space of two days.

This is not the first time.
Several of your titles have worked well for me over the years, but anything that touches this particular problem seems to reliably produce the opposite effect.

We talked about this back in 2021: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OPA-c...fect-on-me
At the time you explained that pornography "addiction" isn't really addiction, but a learned coping mechanism for something feared and you recommended OF over OPA.

So my questions are:
1. What happenes to me to trigger this kind of behavior?
2. Is PRA the wrong entry point for me? Should I start with something different? What would be right sequence?
3. Should I adjust anything in how I'm listening? format, exposure, rest days...
4. Given how consistently this has gone the wrong way for me over the years, do you think your programs are the right tool for this specific problem in my case?

This is my primary problem, and until I solve it everything else in my life stays in its shadow. I'd rather get the approach right or be told it isn't the right approach than keep cycling through this.

Thanks a lot in advance!

Not Shannon ofc, but I also struggled with this issue to some degree.
If anything, the fact that PRA2 triggered you in such obvious ways that you had to resort to a known coping mechanism, to me it’s actually a sign that the program is powerful enough to trigger those wounds and bring them to surface.
Just because you were clean 2 months, it doesn’t mean that the emotional wounds were healed.
Counting the days, weeks, months of being clean might help in controlling the habit, but until you heal from within, it will always have control over you.

(07-27-2026, 02:07 AM)Djordje Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon,

I've been a member for years and used your programs on and off ever since. I'd like to ask for your guidance on something that keeps repeating with some products.

My primary issue is pornography. Before this most recent episode I had been completely clean for two months, no consumption, no urges, and no sign I was heading back to it. Things felt genuinely stable.

I chose PTSD Recovery Aid deliberately. I can trace this back to my school years: I was bullied by my peers, and that is when I started escaping into pornography. It has always functioned as a coping mechanism for what happened back then, so my reasoning was that working on the root rather than the behaviour would be the right angle.

Two days after I started PRA v2c (6.5G), I relapsed three times in the space of two days.

This is not the first time.
Several of your titles have worked well for me over the years, but anything that touches this particular problem seems to reliably produce the opposite effect.

We talked about this back in 2021: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OPA-c...fect-on-me
At the time you explained that pornography "addiction" isn't really addiction, but a learned coping mechanism for something feared and you recommended OF over OPA.

So my questions are:
1. What happenes to me to trigger this kind of behavior?
2. Is PRA the wrong entry point for me? Should I start with something different? What would be right sequence?
3. Should I adjust anything in how I'm listening? format, exposure, rest days...
4. Given how consistently this has gone the wrong way for me over the years, do you think your programs are the right tool for this specific problem in my case?

This is my primary problem, and until I solve it everything else in my life stays in its shadow. I'd rather get the approach right or be told it isn't the right approach than keep cycling through this.

Thanks a lot in advance!

1. What is happening to trigger that response is that PRA is directing you to identify areas where you need to work on healing traumas and dealing with fear, and then getting them to work on those.  That is obviously triggering some part(s) of you to experience anxiety and fear in the short term.

2. No, PRA is not the wrong entry point.  It is just what you need.  Remember, you only get flak when you're over the target.

3. Don't change anything.  Follow the instructions. Your subconscious is responding the way it is because it is being required to deal with, process and work on what is wrong that needs work and healing.  If you respond by trying to prevent those responses, you're going to allow it to avoid doing hat is necessary to deal with, process and heal those things that are causing the issue in the first place.  The program is doing it's part.  It has identified the issue and started working on getting your subconscious to solve it.  The parts that need to do this need to do this still because instead of dealing with the issue, they've always sought to avoid and hide from or bury it.  Pornography as a coping mechanism, etc.

I want you to understand that the process, while it is as easy as I can make it right now, is not always going to be easy or fun.  But going back to coping mechanisms such as pornography is only showing you that the job is being done, and the parts that have the fear are trying to cope in the manners they understand for coping.

In the future, when this comes up, try to sit with yourself for a little bit and explore the feelings and urges and their roots.  As that part of yourself, "Why do you want to do this?  What does it accomplish?"  Try to understand it's thinking, feelings and circumstances from it's point of view. 

4. Given how consistently you report having this issue triggered, I think that my programs are likely the only ones that are working deeply enough to actually do that, which is a good sign.  And now, in 6/6.5G, they are showing excellent results in users and testers.  But those results only come if you don't run away when the going gets challenging.  You have to work through the issue, and if you only run away whenever things get a little uncomfortable, the issue will never get resolved.  We have multiple users here who are guilty of always running away when things get uncomfortable, and they still have the exact same issues they were dealing with years ago because of it.

in 6.5G, PRA can do amazing things.  But you have to stay the course.  Otherwise, all you're doing is training your subconscious that in order to get what it wants, it just does XYZ and you'll run away and give it what it wants.  The more you train that, the more difficult the habit and pattern is to break.  

So no, I don't think my subliminals are the wrong thing for you.  It may have been in the past, depending on how far back you go, that the tech wasn't developed enough.  I am very confident that it is developed enough to handle thisin 6.5G, but only if you follow the instructions and stay the course.

Thanks guys!

@Shannon, thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough and detailed answer, it cleared up a lot for me.

One thing I'd like to check before I settle in for the long haul. I'm currently on the non-complex PTSD instructions. Going back over the product description, point 6 is what gives me pause. The bullying wasn't a single event, which is why I'd rather ask you than guess.
It ran repeatedly through my school years, and the escape into pornography started in that period and has been my main coping mechanism ever since.
The damage was more psychological than physical. There was one guy in particular I was so afraid of that there were stretches where I was afraid to go outside at all. The fear lived in my head constantly, not only in the moments when something actually happened.

So the question is whether I should switch to complex PTSD instructions instead?


@GreekGod22, thanks as well, it helps to hear it from someone who's dealt with the same thing.

(07-29-2026, 01:38 AM)Djordje Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks guys!

@Shannon, thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough and detailed answer, it cleared up a lot for me.

One thing I'd like to check before I settle in for the long haul. I'm currently on the non-complex PTSD instructions. Going back over the product description, point 6 is what gives me pause. The bullying wasn't a single event, which is why I'd rather ask you than guess.
It ran repeatedly through my school years, and the escape into pornography started in that period and has been my main coping mechanism ever since.
The damage was more psychological than physical. There was one guy in particular I was so afraid of that there were stretches where I was afraid to go outside at all. The fear lived in my head constantly, not only in the moments when something actually happened.

So the question is whether I should switch to complex PTSD instructions instead?


@GreekGod22, thanks as well, it helps to hear it from someone who's dealt with the same thing.

If the traumatizing experience was repeated, then you're going to be better off with the complex PTSD instructions.  That said, it's not a good idea to switch in the middle of a usage cycle, or in the middle of a run-through for that matter.  But in this case, I suggest that if you're less than a month in, switch to complex PTSD usage patterns after your current usage cycle is up, and re-set the clock as if you are just starting the program run-through.

(07-29-2026, 12:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-29-2026, 01:38 AM)Djordje Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks guys!

@Shannon, thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough and detailed answer, it cleared up a lot for me.

One thing I'd like to check before I settle in for the long haul. I'm currently on the non-complex PTSD instructions. Going back over the product description, point 6 is what gives me pause. The bullying wasn't a single event, which is why I'd rather ask you than guess.
It ran repeatedly through my school years, and the escape into pornography started in that period and has been my main coping mechanism ever since.
The damage was more psychological than physical. There was one guy in particular I was so afraid of that there were stretches where I was afraid to go outside at all. The fear lived in my head constantly, not only in the moments when something actually happened.

So the question is whether I should switch to complex PTSD instructions instead?


@GreekGod22, thanks as well, it helps to hear it from someone who's dealt with the same thing.

If the traumatizing experience was repeated, then you're going to be better off with the complex PTSD instructions.  That said, it's not a good idea to switch in the middle of a usage cycle, or in the middle of a run-through for that matter.  But in this case, I suggest that if you're less than a month in, switch to complex PTSD usage patterns after your current usage cycle is up, and re-set the clock as if you are just starting the program run-through.

All clear, thanks!