(12-18-2025, 07:51 PM)Hangman Wrote: [ -> ]What if Shannon releases a free or not free sub based on his models & algorithm and which will guide users to choose the best possible next subs to purchase/subscribe based on the user’s own subconscious feedback.
Funnily enough I had the same idea. Shannon expressed interest in it, but we'll see if anything comes of it.
Once again, thank you all for your thoughtful replies! I'll have a lot to respond to, so let me just go through each thing.
(12-18-2025, 11:42 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@EvolvingPhoenix
If you run DMSI don't run it expecting external results. Just run it for self improvement and to see what happens. It's also in the ballpark of your desired goal with the AYP subs. If you get lucky you might be one of the few who get easy results (unlikely, given the blockages you've talked about in the past, but technically possible). DMSI is also superior to an AYP in the sense that DMSI makes you more attractive even when you stop running it. So in the long run AYP requires you to keep running it wheras DMSI might not after enough development.
If you run MLS, just expect to probably get inconsistent results, since you mentioned being a procrastinator.
Basically I would just view this time as a break. With DMSI you're likely to make some progress that will carry over if and when you go back to healing. With MLS it's more likely to be just whatever knowledge/skills you gain while on it. But if you're just optimizing for fun then it's fine. Especially if you just decide to run it for a month or two or something.
If it were me I'd just be laser focused on healing until I reach a certain threshold at the very least (which is why that's all I've been running for years now, and it's been paying off). But that's because I value the deep long term results I'm after and willing to pay the price to get them. But you're not me, so take what I say and decide what you want to do based on the overall trajectory you want to be on.
Thanks Frosted. I do tend to be laser focused on healing, but if you go on my cannel and looknt m sub usage, you will see I've spent the better part of 6 6ears mostly focused on healing and I really wanna try some other stuff for a bit. Still not sure between MLS and DMSI atm.
(12-18-2025, 06:16 PM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer off subs for at least a month so you train what 'fire and forget' feels like without subs, then after you know how to handle expectation, run any subs that you've most least expectation about the result.
DMSI is manifestation subs, the rule of manifestation subs "silent is golden", no need to journaling much because you'll attract bad intention and jealousy towards you. No it's not mumbo-jumbo, Shannon said this long ago and that's what I did.
Hope it helps.
Okay thanks fonhe heads up. If I decide to Un DMSI again, I'll limit how much I talk about it on here. I definitely DON'T talk about it to people outside this website.
(12-19-2025, 03:56 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2025, 07:51 PM)Hangman Wrote: [ -> ]What if Shannon releases a free or not free sub based on his models & algorithm and which will guide users to choose the best possible next subs to purchase/subscribe based on the user’s own subconscious feedback.
Funnily enough I had the same idea. Shannon expressed interest in it, but we'll see if anything comes of it.
That WOULD be interesting.
Oh, BTW, @
Qiel I'm not forcing anything on myself financially. All the subs I'm considering are old subs I already bought. Outdated, but still usable. Just putting that out there, for he record.
So do I use DMSI for mild manifestation and a sexually focused healing and AM-lite style development for fun? Or do I use MLS to learn a few things here or there?
I'm kinda leaning towards DMSI atm to be honest. It would be nice to have the experience of being that attractive to women I lwant and come away more attractive afterwards. And while I'm still living with my folks, I have access to more food!
Still not 100% sure though. I'll keep considering it.
Thanks again everyone.
(12-19-2025, 09:13 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ] (12-18-2025, 06:16 PM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer off subs for at least a month so you train what 'fire and forget' feels like without subs, then after you know how to handle expectation, run any subs that you've most least expectation about the result.
DMSI is manifestation subs, the rule of manifestation subs "silent is golden", no need to journaling much because you'll attract bad intention and jealousy towards you. No it's not mumbo-jumbo, Shannon said this long ago and that's what I did.
Hope it helps.
Y'alls thoughts about limiting comments has me re-evaluating my own journaling patterns, especially as I'm currently running UMS v3.1. I don't talk to anyone outside this site, either. And I would hope that folks on this site wouldn't be responding to my journals like that, especially since I haven't had any major progress towards UMS. Even so, perhaps it is better to avoid giving the temptation.
This has been a good thread for many of us.
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EvolvingPhoenix I've also spent the better part of a decade using healing subs, or subs with healing in it. But I will say the most progress I made is in the last year or two. Later technology hits a lot harder. But regardless, I get the healing fatigue. Have fun with whatever you chose! I'm rooting for you!
(12-19-2025, 11:09 AM)ReconGunner Wrote: [ -> ] (12-19-2025, 09:13 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
Y'alls thoughts about limiting comments has me re-evaluating my own journaling patterns, especially as I'm currently running UMS v3.1. I don't talk to anyone outside this site, either. And I would hope that folks on this site wouldn't be responding to my journals like that, especially since I haven't had any major progress towards UMS. Even so, perhaps it is better to avoid giving the temptation.
This has been a good thread for many of us.
Unfortunately when you're talking about negative thoughts, it's unavoidable. It's probably mostly people not even registered, or people who don't post, not the regulars you see around here. But it also probably doesn't take conscious jealousy or negativity, imagine like 100 people looking at a post you made and like 5 are actively negative and like 15 have slight negativity, and like 30 have negativity they're not even consciously directing at you, but somehow affects your manifestation. I bet it adds up, if this quantum manifestation stuff works.
(12-19-2025, 01:48 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ] (12-19-2025, 11:09 AM)ReconGunner Wrote: [ -> ]Y'alls thoughts about limiting comments has me re-evaluating my own journaling patterns, especially as I'm currently running UMS v3.1. I don't talk to anyone outside this site, either. And I would hope that folks on this site wouldn't be responding to my journals like that, especially since I haven't had any major progress towards UMS. Even so, perhaps it is better to avoid giving the temptation.
This has been a good thread for many of us.
Unfortunately when you're talking about negative thoughts, it's unavoidable. It's probably mostly people not even registered, or people who don't post, not the regulars you see around here. But it also probably doesn't take conscious jealousy or negativity, imagine like 100 people looking at a post you made and like 5 are actively negative and like 15 have slight negativity, and like 30 have negativity they're not even consciously directing at you, but somehow affects your manifestation. I bet it adds up, if this quantum manifestation stuff works.
I've had a lot of thoughts about people who are subconsciously negative, mainly relative to DRS. The reciprocity of DRS should, I hope, be less unpleasant for such folks; just enough to deter the subconscious negativity. My journaling is useful to me for documenting various thoughts and understanding; see my latest post in my journal for an example. The challenge is, how to keep my journal useful without drawing negativity, especially since I can't get DRS until I achieve a greater measure of UMS.
(12-20-2025, 09:12 AM)ReconGunner Wrote: [ -> ] (12-19-2025, 01:48 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately when you're talking about negative thoughts, it's unavoidable. It's probably mostly people not even registered, or people who don't post, not the regulars you see around here. But it also probably doesn't take conscious jealousy or negativity, imagine like 100 people looking at a post you made and like 5 are actively negative and like 15 have slight negativity, and like 30 have negativity they're not even consciously directing at you, but somehow affects your manifestation. I bet it adds up, if this quantum manifestation stuff works.
I've had a lot of thoughts about people who are subconsciously negative, mainly relative to DRS. The reciprocity of DRS should, I hope, be less unpleasant for such folks; just enough to deter the subconscious negativity. My journaling is useful to me for documenting various thoughts and understanding; see my latest post in my journal for an example. The challenge is, how to keep my journal useful without drawing negativity, especially since I can't get DRS until I achieve a greater measure of UMS.
Crazy how such things work. I never considered how sme asshole reading my journals could mess with manifestation just be having a shitty attitude about it.
(12-22-2025, 01:10 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2025, 09:12 AM)ReconGunner Wrote: [ -> ]I've had a lot of thoughts about people who are subconsciously negative, mainly relative to DRS. The reciprocity of DRS should, I hope, be less unpleasant for such folks; just enough to deter the subconscious negativity. My journaling is useful to me for documenting various thoughts and understanding; see my latest post in my journal for an example. The challenge is, how to keep my journal useful without drawing negativity, especially since I can't get DRS until I achieve a greater measure of UMS.
Crazy how such things work. I never considered how sme asshole reading my journals could mess with manifestation just be having a shitty attitude about it.
Hopefully that's less of a problem than it appears.