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If DMSI v5.1, which integrates the DRS is built…
Is it worth paying to have a shield integrated?

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(07-27-2025, 02:24 PM)Catman Wrote: [ -> ]If ever there was a sub that needed a solid DRSV2(3?), it's DMSI V5! That sub would no doubt create a lot of attention, not all positive, especially from "haters". I think anecdotally, as I haven't used a DRS for a long time, but it seems to have an effect even through me if that helps...and for one specific person which is very helpful to me.

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(07-27-2025, 06:49 PM)HMoody Wrote: [ -> ]I second Catman's suggestion that DRS should be included if possible in the new version of DMSI since I can see this program needing it.

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(08-04-2025, 07:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]6G as a standard does not include any shields.  That is by design, and it should stay that way, since you have access to DRS as a stand alone program, and you can run it with DMSI v5.0. 

Additionally, this gives me an opportunity to potentially monetize v5.0 where it would not be monetized otherwise, and potentially recover some of the value I gave away for the last 10+ versions.

So I am going to release v5.0 without a shield, and if you think it is worth paying to have a shield integrated, I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS. 

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do.  This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.
I think this poll has not many sense.

If you can get DMSI for free, you can then pay the DRS standalone and use them together. ($650)
Or you can can pay for DMSI 5.1 including DRS for the same price, $650.
If you are going to pay $650 anyway, it's better to have the DRS standalone, so you can use it with another 6G title in the future.

Only new buyers would benefit from this 5.1 version, but I guess they are not the candidates for this poll.
(08-05-2025, 11:15 AM)Bignoise Wrote: [ -> ]I think this poll has not many sense.

If you can get DMSI for free, you can then pay the DRS standalone and use them together. ($650)
Or you can can pay for DMSI including DRS for the same money, $650.
If you are going to pay $650 anyway, it's better to have the DRS standalone, so you can use it with another 6G title in the future.

Only new buyers would benefit from this 5.1 version, but I guess they are not the candidates for this poll.
Everything you wrote makes sense!! I have DRS 6G. I barely have the time to listen to 2 subliminal titles.

I would buy v5.1+DRS  to get my listening time in.

Some people may not see the need for a shield, regardless of what they listen to.

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(08-05-2025, 11:32 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-05-2025, 11:15 AM)Bignoise Wrote: [ -> ]I think this poll has not many sense.

If you can get DMSI for free, you can then pay the DRS standalone and use them together. ($650)
Or you can can pay for DMSI including DRS for the same money, $650.
If you are going to pay $650 anyway, it's better to have the DRS standalone, so you can use it with another 6G title in the future.

Only new buyers would benefit from this 5.1 version, but I guess they are not the candidates for this poll.
Everything you wrote makes sense!! I have DRS 6G. I barely have the time to listen to 2 subliminal titles.

I would buy v5.1+DRS  to get my listening time in.

Some people may not see the need for a shield, regardless of what they listen to.

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Same here. I'd mostly do it for convienience, but also for improved synergy.
@Shannon

Hi, how are you?

Does having DRS included as part of the DMSI program or any program in general help you execute the goals better or in general or is it more about preventing any negative attention or situations that may arise from executing the goals?

Does having it included take away power energy and resources that could be used to execute and power the goals, if so then it would probably be better to not have it included at all
(08-06-2025, 01:49 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Hi, how are you? 

I am relatively well, thank you.  And you?

Quote:Does having DRS included as part of the DMSI program or any program in general help you execute the goals better or in general or is it more about preventing any negative attention or situations that may arise from executing the goals?

DRS was included by default in 5.11G because it was so ubiquitous in use that it was virtually a necessity, given that everyone wanted to run it, but 5.11G could not allow for someone to run two subliminals of 5.11G at the same time.  In some cases, it helped execute better by shielding the person from negative responses to achieving the program's goals, and in others, it just allowed the person to better deal with the people around them, making their lives easier by it's inclusion.

Quote:Does having it included take away power energy and resources that could be used to execute and power the goals, if so then it would probably be better to not have it included at all

Of course it does.  That's why I defaulted to having the shield separate in 6G.  But in this case, there are reasons why it might be preferable to integrate it.  If you want the effects it gives, and some people rely on them heavily, then you're going to have that division of energy and resources whether or not it's in place.  Including it means you have an easier time using it and DMSI at the same time, and should significantly shorten the time necessary to listen to achieve the goals of both programs.

DMSI v5 is going to have no shield.  If there is sufficient demand, I will create DMSI v5.1 and it will integrate the shield.
(08-05-2025, 11:15 AM)Bignoise Wrote: [ -> ]I think this poll has not many sense.

If you can get DMSI for free, you can then pay the DRS standalone and use them together. ($650)
Or you can can pay for DMSI 5.1 including DRS for the same price, $650.
If you are going to pay $650 anyway, it's better to have the DRS standalone, so you can use it with another 6G title in the future.

Only new buyers would benefit from this 5.1 version, but I guess they are not the candidates for this poll.

If you have paid for DRS, and you can get DMSI v5.0 for free, and you don't mind spending the time necessary to use them both, then buying DMSI v5.1 would not make sense.  

But, if you want the convenience of being able to use them both at once, and the reduction in listening time (time is money), then having them both in one is going to be worth paying for.  Even if you're not a new buyer.

DMSI v5 will suffice for most.  For those who value the time and convenience sufficiently, DMSI v5.1 would probably actually save them money in some cases, because again, time is money.