Subliminal Talk

This needs to be read before you ask me questions. I spend a lot of time answering questions that I have answered again, and again, and again... time that I could be spending building more subliminals or developing the tech or doing experiments or testing, or various other things that would bring you all more and better programs and experiences.

So before asking, please read this post:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid262278

Alright, for those of you who cannot stream your subliminal subscription on your cell phone for whatever reason the question arises of what volume to use on other devices. This is ONLY for those who are unable to play your 5.75G or later subliminal on a cell phone. Key word, UNABLE. If it is possible always follow the instructions exactly, because it will produce better results. DON'T use this approach to setting the volume if you're just wanting to be lazy about it and not listen on a cell phone!

So here's the official position.

First... try to find another cell phone to use, if that is possible, and use it according to the instructions.
Second, if you cannot do that, then try to find a device with the fewest possible volume adjustments. One and only one is ideal.
Third, for 5.75G and up, calibrate volume as follows:

A) Within arm's reach of the speakers (if possible for you to listen to all the loops this way), play the Ocean Surf track.
B) Adjust the volume so that you can only very faintly hear the lowest volume areas of the ocean surf track.
C) If B results in the highest volume parts of the ocean surf track still being undesirably loud, reduce the volume further until the highest volume areas of the ocean surf track are at the highest comfortable volume.
D) Play the track in the format you will be using. If this is uncomfortably loud, again reduce the volume to the highest setting that is comfortable.

Remember to always listen to the program within arm's reach if possible. Always configure the volume you use for the distance you listen to it from the speaker to your ear. Always try to keep as close as possible to that distance while you listen. For example, if you use a laptop, then make sure the laptop is always the same distance from you while the program is playing, configure the volume to listen to it within arm's reach, and listen to it within arm's reach if possible.

These instructions are not perfect, but they are the best we can do while there is no single volume control or way to absolutely determine the volume you're hearing the subliminal at your ear.

If you're coming from a different producer, it's actually a good idea to take a good look at giving yourself a 32 day break before using any program from any other producer.  We cannot know what scripting techniques they use, how well they understand scripting or communicating with the subconscious, or what methods they are using (or attempting to use) or how successfully they are doing/attempting to do so.  We also don't know if they use anything to keep the script going in your subconscious mind after you stop using it, how long/how well that works or anything else about the subliminals of other producers.

I pioneered a method that causes you to start experiencing the effects of a subliminal before you start actually using it.  Depending on the program, person and some other factors like generation, it can start showing up between a day or so and two months before you start using it.  That means you may have the subliminal you want to use by us starting to affecting you already.

To be clear, you can start right now with [program]. But if you do, you will likely experience what we have come to call "turbulence" if the subliminal you were using previously was of any value at all.  Turbulence is when you have more than one program running in your head, when one or more of them is attempting to use all available resources for itself.

All of my subliminals from 5G and later attempt to do this as a way of maximizing the effectiveness and success of the program.

Turbulence can range from just feeling tired to headaches, confusion and dizziness.  Most of the time, people do not have a big deal with turbulence and it usually only lasts a day or two, maybe three at the most.  That is from using two of my more advanced subliminals back to back without a break.  Some people do that all the time, and others need a week or two between programs.

I can tell you that the experience of turbulence if you start [program] right now will depend on the following:

•     Is the previous subliminal still trying to execute in your subconscious mind?  If so, you may experience turbulence.
  
•     How powerful was it?  The more powerful, the more likely you are to experience turbulence, and the longer it will tend to last.
  
•     How long did you run it?  Presuming that it was a powerful enough subliminal and there is still some sort of subconscious execution, then the longer you ran it, the more likely turbulence becomes and the longer it will last.
  

This is a good way to judge the power and effectiveness of the previous subliminal.  If it is not very powerful, my subliminal will overpower it quickly and there will be no noticeable turbulence.  If it was powerful and using advanced methods, you may experience turbulence.

To the best of my knowledge, there is only one other producer whose subliminals have a chance of causing turbulence when used with mine; mine will override and dominate all the rest I know about very quickly.

With all that said, in the end, it's your choice.  What appeals most to you?  How patient are you?  Go for it.  Just be aware that mixing subliminals from different producers can result in unexpected or unexplained results as the two different scripting methods may interact in ways I cannot know or predict, and therefore put safeties in place for.  The only thing I can do is try to dominate quickly and decisively to prevent issues.  So patience has value here, but I also understand that you didn't pay for it or subscribe (whichever you did) to wait.

(04-11-2024, 05:26 AM)Lionstrength Wrote: [ -> ]Can anybody point me in the right direction to the post that explains the difference between formats (masked, ultrasonic, and hybrid)? I've been thinking I should adjust and play with that more to lessen some of the resistance/anxiety I have been having with multiple subs that last few months.

The formats work like this.

Ultrasonic is the standard format.  It uses pitch differencing to make the audio fall into the "umbra ultrasonic" range, meaning that it's too high pitched for your conscious mind to pick up, but it's still possible for your subconscious to pick up and decode it.  Because it uses pitch differencing, the volume is higher, and it will have a bigger impact on most people.  It is also the most convenient to use in most cases, but isn't suitable for use in headphones or earbuds because it is too easy to use too much or too little volume, or even have it turn off or on when you don't want it to without noticing that it's playing or not playing.  People who have issues with control are the most likely to find themselves resisting this format, but that is not a given.

Masked is the secondary format.  It uses volume differencing to hide the subliminal instructions in another sound, which is in this case Trickling Stream or Ocean Surf. The masking audio is audible at normal levels, but the masked audio is a lower volume, and this effectively hides it from the conscious mind, but not the subconscious mind.  The subliminalized audio is much lower volume than Ultrasonic format, so it has much less "perceptory pressure" than the ultrasonic.  Masked format is useful for when Ultrasonic is too aggressive and triggers resistance or you cannot handle the ultrasonic audio at the intended usage volumes because it causes tinnitus (make sure you're using it on a cell phone through the speakers at the instructed volume) or makes your ears hurt (which is usually the result of a form of resistance where your subconscious causes you pain trying to get you to stop using it; see here for more information).  It works with a gentler approach to presenting the instructions, which typically works significantly better for people who have serious control issues or try to resist Ultrasonic format for any other reason.

Hybrid is the tertiary format, and is a combination of Ultrasonic and Masked.  It is useful for when you do not respond well to either Ultrasonic or Masked format because you have a lot of fear causing your subconscious to resist too much.  This is the format with the highest perceptory pressure, and it also doubles the amount of data input per unit of time.  Most people want to use it because they assume that "moar is bedder"; in reality, this format is typically only useful if nothing else works for you.  Otherwise it is too much and will generally result in overload if you don't actually need it.

AbundanceCH Wrote:This is for Shannon only...

Why recommend subs to be played over phone speakers and not via wired headphones? Just thinking about it...less noise from the outside world interfering with the sub, the sound is more focused and you're hearing it better....so unless i'm missing something I just don't see how playing the subs over phone speakers can be in any way better than with wired headphones (wired not bluetooth).

Unless the recommendation is just for practical purposes (not having to be with headphones for hours per day listening). 

I'm just curious which one is better or if both are the same or if in reality wired headphones are better but the impact difference is about the same and just not as practical.

I will say that from listening to a sub with headphones that takes just one hour of listening time per day I was getting headaches and my brain was just feeling really tired.  Shannon's subs are definitely powerful and the experience makes me think i'm missing out in terms of impact by not listening to my subs over headphones.  Obviously i'll be listening to the sub at a lower volume next time so hopefully it goes smoother and also my brain gets used to it.

But I did listen to it with my headphones at the same volume that I play it over the phone speakers and the after effects where much more powerful.  It really felt like a ton of information was being processed and I was just feeling weird all day.

The reasons we use a cell phone and play it through the speakers have been much discussed in the past, but I will detail it once again, and put it in the FAQ this time.

The more advanced and powerful the subliminals become, the more volume sensitive them become for whatever reason.  The ONLY way for me to know that you're hearing it at the intended volume is for you to have only one volume adjustment, and then make sure that what it is played through is the same as everyone else using it.  The only thing that works for this is a cell phone through the speakers.  This doesn't even work all the time, because the app being used to play it may have it's own volume control on top of that of the phone.  (In that case, ditch that app and use something that has no volume adjustments.)

Played through a headphone, the volume range differs between type of headphone (earbud, over the ear, resting on the ear), quality of headphone (cheaper is less volume) and some headphones have their own volume controls (again, very bad).  Furthermore, not everyone can use headphones, or the same kind of or quality of headphones, and some headphones are not wired.  This makes headphones entirely unsuitable for following the instructions, as you have discovered with headaches.  You are not missing out on anything by FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS.  I know what I am doing, and I created them.

The same volume setting from your cell phone speaker to a headphone is therefore effectively MUCH LOUDER through headphones, which is why you got the signs of overexposure (headaches and exhaustion).  You cannot use the same volume through cell phone speakers and headphones.  This difference in volume is much worsened if you try to use laptop speakers, and even more exacerbated by using external speakers.  FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

You will never have to worry about getting the full effects of a subliminal you listen to according to the instructions.  Ultrasonic format works just fine even in environments where the audible sounds are extremly loud because the pitch is different, so it acts as an entirely different input channel.  If you need to use Masked format, make sure you have a relatively quiet environment or wait until you do.  DO NOT USE HEAPHONES - EXPECIALLY WITH ULTRASONIC FORMAT!

Another reason we don't use headphones is because it is too easy to accidentally undervolume or overvolume the ultrasonic audio after even properly adjusting it and either get no results or potentially overloading your brain, triggering reversal resistance or even damaging your ears.

Furthermore, the INSTRUCTIONS are not recommendations.  I don't know how many times I have to tell you guys this.  They are the exact and very specific way that 98%+ of people are going to get the best possible results.  It takes me up to a week of modeling these figures to determine what the instructions should be, and that's a lot of time that I could be working in some other direction, so you know that the instructions, and FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS, is very important indeed.  "Recommendations" would take me all of 30 seconds to type out.  The INSTRUCTIONS are not recommended, they are specific and important information you need o know to not underexpose (little to no results) or overexpose (headaches, exhaustion) yourself and get the best results.

To recap:

Shannon knows what he's doing, and Shannon knows what he's talking about.  The INSTRUCTIONS are not suggestions or recommendations, and the ONLY time you don't follow them is if they don't work.  Then you ask Shannon how to proceed.  You NEVER use headphones because at best you don't know what volume to use and at worst you could cause damage to your hearing and overload your subconscious, potentially causing it to reverse the instructions or stonewall entirely, which means you spent that money and time to get NOTHING.  Ultrasonic format works just fine even in a dance club level volume situation.  You're not missing out on anything by FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS because SHANNON MADE THEM AND SHANNON KNOWS WHAT THE HELL HE'S DOING AND TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES  TO USING THEM.