Subliminal Talk

Communicate with her. Openly, honestly. Figure out what's going on.

(07-28-2021, 09:34 AM)Superman Wrote: [ -> ]I seem to be going through my own cycle of bad events happening.  Almost 10 years exactly since this exact situation happened. I don't know if it's gotten any easier for me.  I don't know what to do or how I should handle it. I don't know if I should try to handle it the same way, even though it didn't work out in the end.  Or should I try something different and pull away completely, just give up on it and remove myself from the situation.

Both paths are painful. And neither one is guaranteed to have the same outcome as before, but everything feels so similar and remembering how I felt back then and how much I hated myself for being so weak.  I want to believe I'm stronger now and that I'm a different person, but I find myself wanting to do the same old things falling into the same patterns.  Only this time I do it with a little more conscious intention, understanding what I'm doing and what the result will probably be.

To summarize the situation, 10 years ago I was in a relationship and the girl went cold on me all of a sudden. I tried my best to "win her back" but every day every thing I tried just ended up breaking me little by little, and sometimes a lot. I broke down a lot during that time, and it was one of the lowest points in my life. When I finally gave up chasing I felt so free.

Fast forward 10 years and it seems that my relationship of 5 years is going the same way. It's not 100% confirmed that it's the same situation but it feels so similar to me.


Maybe UMS2 caused this shift in my life to occur. Force me to focus more on money than love. Maybe I'm meant to be wealthy and alone.

I still do see a path forward with UMS2.  I just hope that my emotional state can hold up and that I don't ruin whatever UMS is trying to accomplish.

thats why I think it is the most important thing in a man's life is becoming an alpha male and doing good with women. This may be the most important and only way to win in life(for men), because everything is about surviving and sex. Every fucking thing is involved with these, I didn't see rather than these two. Maybe because of my age I am inexperienced about life and thinking like that. Idk, my honest thoughts.


I dont think trying to"win her back" will work, all thing you did to "win" her back probably is a very good way to lose her.
Maybe you are just growing and your awareness expanding so, your current girlfriend and lifestyle is no more for you. You are changing to better man? If this is the case, why it must be bad for you? Maybe your past relationship wasn't good enough for you because of that same reason, and you released it?

I'm not sure how my relationship situation is going to go. Trying to communicate but I sort of feel like it's already too late. I'm pretty shattered over it. And @tolgaocal80 I understand what you're saying and you might be right, but I've still got to try. I do still want this relationship to work out, but I've got my limits to how much I'm willing to try.

Hopefully it all works out in the end. I've been through some rough times in my life and always came out smiling on the other end eventually, but this time feels different.

I'm at a crticical point in life and something like this can really shake everything to the core.

Still doing my loops, will let you all know when I'm rich.

(07-30-2021, 07:15 AM)Superman Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure how my relationship situation is going to go. Trying to communicate but I sort of feel like it's already too late.  I'm pretty shattered over it. And @tolgaocal80 I understand what you're saying and you might be right, but I've still got to try.  I do still want this relationship to work out, but I've got my limits to how much I'm willing to try.

Hopefully it all works out in the end.  I've been through some rough times in my life and always came out smiling on the other end eventually, but this time feels different.

I'm at a crticical point in life and something like this can really shake everything to the core.

Still doing my loops, will let you all know when I'm rich.

I don't know what your situation is and what you're going through but let me tell you this. Even if it fails, even if it goes down in shambles at least make action so that you will never, ever regret that you could do more. Hindsight is 20/20 and who knows what you will say in the future, but if you believe something is right fight for it.

And remember that the measure of man is not only how fiercely he fights but how much he's willing to forgive if necessary and how much he's willing to give. Julius Caesar might have ended badly due to this but damn he's being remembered!

I'm quite perplexed right now with life and my situation. It doesn't seem like the relationship is going to work out, but at the same time it's still continuing in a strange fashion. Will confirm more once I figure it out. I'm still very disappointed, but it is what it is. I can as much as I want but ultimately I can only control myself, not other people. So after the brief mourning period and occasional bouts of sadness, I'm taking this time to get hyper focused on myself.

Sub wise I'm still trying to be as consistent as I can with the listening. There hasn't been much progress but if I'm correct, some big changes are going to coincide with the release/running of stage 3/4. Some things that I've been working on should be culminating around the 1-3 month from now (hopefully)

I'm not sure if I can hold out that long but I'm going to try my best.

Feeling a lot of internal growth and change. I know the old me would have been in pain and grief for a much longer period. For me now it's been about a week and I feel mostly ok, which is strange for me especially since it was a 5 yr relationship.

I've already turned my focus towards myself. My personal growth. Self improvement in all aspects. Health wise, financially, spiritually, mentally, emotionally

Still running the sub, no big changes in life other than this relationship thing

As much as I hate to admit it, I really think the relationship issues were a by product of UMS. Things are just falling into place too well. When I was in the relationship I would sacrifice time and money to see her and spend time with her. Time that I could have spent working either at a job or on a business idea.

Now I have pain in my heart and nothing to distract me from this goal. I see new opportunities coming up and I'm taking a chance on each one. Not letting a single one pass me by in hopes that it could be the one.

I can't keep mourning over what was lost, gotta keep it moving

(Can I get some reputation likes? I think I've been here long enough to be higher than a 4 lol. It's the thumbs up on the bottom left of the post)

If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't go as far as to say that relationship issues are a direct result of UMS. There are far too many variables to conclude that. But on UMS, I've had sort of a relationship scare myself. At the one moment in time, a couple of weeks or so ago, I thought my relationship to be going nowhere and prepared for the end. But things turned out okay with some open, honest conversation. We cut all the fluff, to say so. As a result, I have much more time and energy to spare to achieve UMS that was aimlessly spent on the relationship. My situation is different than you in many ways, but just to let you know, you are not entirely alone.

Perhaps you two had problems that went unresolved for a long time, perhaps things were taken for granted, etc. No one can say for sure. Not us, definitely. But if things are going the way they are, it's probably for the better no matter how hard it may seem to believe that. I hope you overcome your pain and use it as a catalyst to achieve your goals.

UMS v2 is designed to prevent it from damaging your love and sex lives. And that module works. I know from first hand experience. The only thing I can think of that may be UMS involved is that this relationship was judged by your subconscious to be an otherwise insurmountable factor in achieving the goals of the program. In an either/or, UMS will win out. In any case where the relationship is not actually and completely preventing UMS from achieving its goals, you'll work towards UMS and it will work to preserve and prevent harm to your sex and love lives.

Think I'm starting to get TID from stage 3.

The relationship situation is mostly out of my head right now. I've tried what ever I can and I've accepted that it may be over and prepared myself accordingly. I'm not going to allow myself to enter a downward spiral, and I refuse to be on standby while the other person "figures things out". I've been hurt before and I know how girls act when there's someone else in the picture. I got things lined up ready for me to dive head first all in on. Things that with effort and work I can build something meaningful.

It might be a lot of work, but I think that's exactly what I need right now to further my growth and maximize my personal development. In a relationship its sometimes difficult to do those things and you get a little complacent with your place in life.

Starting to see some signs regarding UMS2, but I won't go into too much detail. I prefer to keep things a little close to the chest. Every time I talk about things they seem to come to a stop.

I'm really feeling a whole life change coming on the horizon. I'm not happy with my life and the way things are going, but I am proud of myself with how I'm handling it. The old me could never

Sort of diving into the self improvement stuff right now in all aspects.  Money, mindset, women, health.

Probably shouldn't be focusing on women at all right now but it's what my mind has transitioned to.  The financial side of things I'm still working on,  the health aspect I've already been working on for a little while and its coming along.  Lost a bunch of weight but still want to lose more and tone up.  Then ideally start bulking up a little.  I'm not going for any body builder type body.  Just a slim toned body with a compact build.  Finance wise I'm still doing research daily and keeping up with that.

Mindset and women,  I feel those two things go hand in hand.  Whenever I don't have a woman I get into this needy mindset that I'll never get one, or I'll always be alone.  Hence why I ran DMSI for what feels like forever until I switched to UMS.

While I'm not 100% sure this relationship is over, I'm treating it like it is and I've gotten back into attraction, game, and abundance guides and things like that.  I really shouldn't even be thinking of those things right now but when you're going through hard times its hard not to.  Sometimes it feels like you really will always be alone or that I've wasted so much time and my clock is running out.  Which really comes from not having an abundance mindset.  I know there's a ton of women out there, but will they accept me.  I was with my gf for so long from such a young age.  All the mistakes I made that set me back were made during that relationship so I felt like I had to stay with her because any other girl would see those mistakes as red flags and drop me immediately.

I'm much further behind in life than other people my age. But I'm trying my best to catch up.

Still focusing on my personal development and self improvement. Putting more effort into the health aspect lately.

Something that occurred to me was the last time my relationship ended I felt it was because of what some call "nice guy syndrome" I read a lot of books and tried to grow out of that but 5 years later and I think I've called victim to the same trap and mindset.

A long time ago I read a book called no more Mr nice guy which helped a lot back then. It just frustrates me that I'm still having those same issues.

My problem is once I get in a relationship I stop all my personal development and I end up putting all my energy into the relationship. I have an opportunity now to really work on myself and grow out of these issues. But I'm afraid that it's not something that just goes away. It's going to take conscious effort for the rest of my life. Consciously telling myself to go against my nature and do these things and behaviours instead.

It's better for me in the long run, but it's just disappointing is all

I know I have an opportunity for a lot of self development right now, but I'm still grieving over the lost relationship as well.

Sub wise I'm still listening, seeing how things go. Also, I started dreaming again lately. I'm not sure if it's because of the increased exercise or use of CBD oil. But I've been having extremely vivid and continuous dreams where the dreams logically go from one part to the next. Just something I noticed

I don't kbown what's going on in my life anymore. I'm feeling really lost right now and my focus is on everything except Money. I'm still listening to the sub but it's more of a background thing now. I'm trying to work on self improvement more. Hopefully taking the focus off UMS will help it work better. You know that things happen when you aren't looking for them kind of thing.

Things are hard at times, and you realize the only person you really have is yourself

Still plugging away with my 8 loops of Ultrasonic, but not focusing on it anymore. Been doing some mindset training watching videos on youtube. Working out more than I ever have in my entire life. Also,.,, something curious has happened to me lately. I've always had an issue with porn and m, and whenever I try to quit in the past I go through some pretty strong withdrawals and blue balls pains. Something odd has happened. I've actually stopped it. I tried doing it consciously at first and only lasted a day or two at the most and would be thinking about it all day which makes it even worse for myself. But I've lost track of the days now but I haven't done it or even thought about it in over a week..

This new found energy and vigor makes me happy and also a little dissappointed, I could have been living this way my entire life. What I could have achieved if I didn't waste my life energy.