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(09-11-2020, 10:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ][quote="kuroshabedi" pid='238465' dateline='1599819098']
[quote="Shannon" pid='238391' dateline='1599666451']
.  There are no "frequencies damaging your brain".  Your brain cannot be damaged by subliminals.


I meant i listened to subs with frequencies in it too and maybe those frequencies triggert something in my brain 

Its just so weird that so many people like me now search for help after using subs in youtube
(09-11-2020, 01:56 PM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-11-2020, 10:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ][quote="kuroshabedi" pid='238465' dateline='1599819098']
[quote="Shannon" pid='238391' dateline='1599666451']
.  There are no "frequencies damaging your brain".  Your brain cannot be damaged by subliminals.


I meant i listened to subs with frequencies in it too and maybe those frequencies triggert something in my brain 

Its just so weird that so many people like me now search for help after using subs in youtube

If a subliminal includes brainwave entrainment, the maker doesn't know what they're doing, because those are only useful for helping the conscious mind to relax and allow consciously audible suggestions to make it into your subconscious.  Subliminals, properly made, bypass the conscious mind completely.  

Brainwave entrainment doesn't have effects like what you're talking about.  Brainwave entrainment cannot cause brain damage either.  

It's not weird to me at all.  That's what happens when you have a bunch of people who think they know how to make subliminals, but they don't know what they're doing, and you give them an unlimited audience of people who think that just because they made a "subliminal" that they knew how to make one safely, effectively and properly.

The vast majority of people who think they know how to script a subliminal properly - and frequently this includes very advanced and experienced practitioners of hypnosis, psychology, NLP, etc. - do not know how to properly script a subliminal.  If it were easy, I wouldn't still be learning how after 26+ years of working through how to do it.  The reason it's so difficult is that the conscious and subconscious minds do not think the same way, comprehend speech the same way, or even understand logic the same way.  

Nobody would pay me what they do for my subliminals "just because I ask for it".  People pay that price because of the fact that I have spent so much time and effort learning how to communicate with the subconscious mind in ways it understands, so it does what you want it to do, and because my subliminals work better than others as a result.

The subliminals that work will require a lot of work to not only make, but for the person to be able to make.  They will cost correspondingly more, and they will work correspondingly better.  "Free" subs at YouTube are worth what you pay for them.
I'm not sure it matters much in this context, but I think he's referring to frequencies such as Solfeggio frequencies, and the like, rather than brainwave entrainment.
(09-11-2020, 03:42 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-11-2020, 01:56 PM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-11-2020, 10:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ][quote="kuroshabedi" pid='238465' dateline='1599819098']
[quote="Shannon" pid='238391' dateline='1599666451']
.  There are no "frequencies damaging your brain".  Your brain cannot be damaged by subliminals.


I meant i listened to subs with frequencies in it too and maybe those frequencies triggert something in my brain 

Its just so weird that so many people like me now search for help after using subs in youtube

If a subliminal includes brainwave entrainment, the maker doesn't know what they're doing, because those are only useful for helping the conscious mind to relax and allow consciously audible suggestions to make it into your subconscious.  Subliminals, properly made, bypass the conscious mind completely.  

Brainwave entrainment doesn't have effects like what you're talking about.  Brainwave entrainment cannot cause brain damage either.  

It's not weird to me at all.  That's what happens when you have a bunch of people who think they know how to make subliminals, but they don't know what they're doing, and you give them an unlimited audience of people who think that just because they made a "subliminal" that they knew how to make one safely, effectively and properly.

The vast majority of people who think they know how to script a subliminal properly - and frequently this includes very advanced and experienced practitioners of hypnosis, psychology, NLP, etc. - do not know how to properly script a subliminal.  If it were easy, I wouldn't still be learning how after 26+ years of working through how to do it.  The reason it's so difficult is that the conscious and subconscious minds do not think the same way, comprehend speech the same way, or even understand logic the same way.  

Nobody would pay me what they do for my subliminals "just because I ask for it".  People pay that price because of the fact that I have spent so much time and effort learning how to communicate with the subconscious mind in ways it understands, so it does what you want it to do, and because my subliminals work better than others as a result.

The subliminals that work will require a lot of work to not only make, but for the person to be able to make.  They will cost correspondingly more, and they will work correspondingly better.  "Free" subs at YouTube are worth what you pay for them.

Ok i understand thanks so if everything has a good logical reason then can you tell me why OF 5.75 and every other subliminal gives me the intended results but addiotional attacks my past results and make them worse?
(09-11-2020, 03:58 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure it matters much in this context, but I think he's referring to frequencies such as Solfeggio frequencies, and the like, rather than brainwave entrainment.

Yes thanks

Unfortunatly i dont know anything abiut frequencies
To make it more understandable:

In my past i listened to a subliminal from another subliminal company i think their name was [removed by Shannon to conform with the rules] and i listened to their alpha male subliminal and it has over 1000 affirmations. The results were really good but whenever i listened to it it had a negative effect on my appearance and it stayed permanent.

I was the only one expierencing it. When i stopped the program the alpha male effects faded away but that negative thing on my appearance stayed.

The same thing happens to me now when i listen to subliminals it doesnt matter which.. just all subliminals has this effect

My subconscious mind just responds this way.

Thats why i cant listen to subs bcz this negative side effect gets worse and worse

And it doesnt matter if i use OF 5.75 or a little self made subliminal... the stronger the subliminal the stronfer this negative side effect

Hypnoses.. subs with brainwave et cetera everything gives me this negative side effect

Please tell me this reason and how to solve this...
(09-11-2020, 07:36 PM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]To make it more understandable:

In my past i listened to a subliminal from another subliminal company i think their name was *REDACTED BY CM*. The results were really good but whenever i listened to it it had a negative effect on my appearance and it stayed permanent.

I was the only one expierencing it. When i stopped the program the alpha male effects faded away but that negative thing on my appearance stayed.

The same thing happens to me now when i listen to subliminals it doesnt matter which.. just all subliminals has this effect

My subconscious mind just responds this way.

Thats why i cant listen to subs bcz this negative side effect gets worse and worse

And it doesnt matter if i use OF 5.75 or a little self made subliminal... the stronger the subliminal the stronfer this negative side effect

Hypnoses.. subs with brainwave et cetera everything gives me this negative side effect

Please tell me this reason and how to solve this...

Hi, either this is imagined for some reason. Or, it's some deep insecurity about your looks that was brought to the surface during sub use and when you stopped the sub abruptly, it stopped working on getting over that. So you're sitting there with a naked, raw insecurity. Another reason why Shannon says programs MUST be completed once started, or else you have a building half-made on a faulty foundation. That won't last for long! Or, it's simply just a fear of change, so your mind tricks you into believing you will get ugly by listening or whatever it is. Or that company put in some unethical stuff in their anti-piracy code. But quite possibly, you simply scripted your custom sub wrong, or that company did, resulting in this effect. That company is a sketchy copy of IML, their name has come up before here...

Did you pirate anything from any sub company? Did you pay for every single sub you downloaded and/or used? Plus, I notice you always seem to say to Shannon "assume the scripting for my custom sub is fine, then what?", as if it's impossible it was made wrong. When very likely, it indeed was made wrong and caused this. But there are several factors at play here, so it's tough to find the cause from our end. Those are a few ideas anyway.

I'm sure it's not a big deal. You're at a good place here now. Be very careful going forward, about who you let put stuff into your brain. This is a field...where you seem to get what you pay for.
(09-11-2020, 10:14 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-11-2020, 07:36 PM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]To make it more understandable:

In my past i listened to a subliminal from another subliminal company i think their name was *REDACTED BY CM*. The results were really good but whenever i listened to it it had a negative effect on my appearance and it stayed permanent.

I was the only one expierencing it. When i stopped the program the alpha male effects faded away but that negative thing on my appearance stayed.

The same thing happens to me now when i listen to subliminals it doesnt matter which.. just all subliminals has this effect

My subconscious mind just responds this way.

Thats why i cant listen to subs bcz this negative side effect gets worse and worse

And it doesnt matter if i use OF 5.75 or a little self made subliminal... the stronger the subliminal the stronfer this negative side effect

Hypnoses.. subs with brainwave et cetera everything gives me this negative side effect

Please tell me this reason and how to solve this...

Hi, either this is imagined for some reason. Or, it's some deep insecurity about your looks that was brought to the surface during sub use and when you stopped the sub abruptly, it stopped working on getting over that. So you're sitting there with a naked, raw insecurity. Another reason why Shannon says programs MUST be completed once started, or else you have a building half-made on a faulty foundation. That won't last for long! Or, it's simply just a fear of change, so your mind tricks you into believing you will get ugly by listening or whatever it is. Or that company put in some unethical stuff in their anti-piracy code. But quite possibly, you simply scripted your custom sub wrong, or that company did, resulting in this effect. That company is a sketchy copy of IML, their name has come up before here...

Did you pirate anything from any sub company? Did you pay for every single sub you downloaded and/or used? Plus, I notice you always seem to say to Shannon "assume the scripting for my custom sub is fine, then what?", as if it's impossible it was made wrong. When very likely, it indeed was made wrong and caused this. But there are several factors at play here, so it's tough to find the cause from our end. Those are a few ideas anyway.

I'm sure it's not a big deal. You're at a good place here now. Be very careful going forward, about who you let put stuff into your brain. This is a field...where you seem to get what you pay for.

Thanks for the reply.

No i swear the others are not the problem. Its me something is wrong with me and i am trying to find out what

Friends of mine have alle positive results of the subliminals i used i can guarrentee its me not the subliminals thats why i know its scripted normal. And i say " lets assume.." because i want to skip that possibility that its maybe not skripted well because i can guarrentee that its scripted well i have proof because my friends have the results without any side effects et cetera.

But something is wrong with my subconscious and i dont know why this is happening its just like a nightmare. It doesnt matter which subliminal i use it doesnt matter if i use shannons or others.. Im not an idiot im 28 and i know what i see and what changes and not 

I know some people like me that have similar expierences so at least i dont feel like im the only one at the planet with this but it would be nice to find out the core reason to solve it because after i solved my situation i want to help others too
For example i know a girl  that has a similar subliminal history like me. She used subliminals for years in youtube. She also got in some cases opposite results. Now whenever she uses a subliminal or even whrn she makes her own her hair falls out and her body hair grows. This reaction always happens when she uses a subliminal. She has now litterally no hair. 

Before somebody says maybe it has nothing to do with the subliminals and her subconscious mind.. it has whenever she uses one she feels the tingling sensation there and whenever she uses one she can litterally hold the hair bush in her hand that falls out.

And it doesmt matter if she uses a hypnoses or binaural beats or subliminals.. the stronger the stromger the negative side effect

This is all the truth but i dont know why this is happening and how to solve this we are now trying for years.. if tgere is a solution i will donate tousends of dollars lol

Anyway thanks for reading and replying i really appreciate this
Mate, you just keep repeating the same thing. i think shannon explained to you already what is the Main
reason for the reversal effects. just stop using others subliminals and use IML for awhile and see if there is any difference, but you have to be patient.

I am also new to IML and from researching the forum i see many people post positive results, i am yet to try the new stuff(Hopefully soon) but i think this is a good bet.

Just remmember that everything in life takes time, especially where it comes to re-programming your mind.
and, if you still wanna donate thousands of dollars, i am here  Wink
(09-11-2020, 11:25 PM)Rusty Wrote: [ -> ]Mate, you just keep repeating the same thing. i think shannon explained to you already what is the Main
reason for the reversal effects. just stop using others subliminals and use IML for awhile and see if there is any difference, but you have to be patient.

I am also new to IML and from researching the forum i see many people post positive results, i am yet to try the new stuff(Hopefully soon) but i think this is a good bet.

Just remmember that everything in life takes time, especially where it comes to re-programming your mind.
and, if you still wanna donate thousands of dollars, i am here  Wink


Haha you will be the first mate

Yes i know but its not only the reversal resistence but i get your point.

I really understand your point and from your point of view i would say the same but its a bit different from mine.

But again thanks for all the replies and suggestions
I think you should edit your post about another subliminal company name before the cops coming @Benjamin Smile , because it is an advertisement no matter good or bad saying.
@kuroshabedi, please go read our rules and make sure you follow them from here on out. We don't discuss competitors on the forum because it will always lead to either advertising for them or someone attacking them. I don't care to have bad blood between us and other producers.

Just use OF 5.75G according to the instructions. In 8 months, if it has not accomplished its goal, get a refund. What you're describing is going to be overcome if you use OF properly. It's just resistance, and it will be overcome in time. Just make sure you follow the instructions and use it at a reasonable volume. And don't use ANY other subliminals from ANYONE during that time - even mine. Stick with it. You'll get past it.
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