So I looked at Ampersand's latest thread about DMSI not really working, felt disappointed and then started looking at his SM3 journal, also to find it didn't seem to be working as one would expect. So now I'm wondering if any of these subliminals designed to get you women really work or if it's just bullsh*t marketing?
How many of you have run Woman Magnet or Sex Magnet and gotten the result of having sex with numerous beautiful women?
Have you had sex with just one or two? Did you have sex with lots of women as advertised? Di you fail to get any? How many people got real results from these programs and how well did those results match the advertising on the page of the sub?
People who got laid om DMSi don't come here often anymore.
You are just feeling depressed that it's not gonna work. Which means you expect alot from subliminals.
This was just like me. I wanted to fix my mind but I expected the sub to do everything. It was the expectations which were killing my efforts.
Then I stopped caring and started focusing on healing myself emotionally that's all I focused on. Didn't give a damn about my depression and messed up cognitive functions... I just let go..
I focus on stuff which really matters in life..Only then I started seeing results.
It's truly horrifying what fear can do to a person.
Just work on yourself and don't get disappointed by reading external stuff.. Once you start trusting your gut instinct then you will reach your true potential.
The inner voice..
Heya,
To be clear, I found a very nice woman while on Sex Magnet and had fun sex with her on a weekly basis for a few months. Had to end the relationship when I moved away. I suspect that Sex Magnet helped, but it had no influence on the other women I tried to meet.
Hope that helps.
(05-11-2019, 08:03 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]People who got laid om DMSi don't come here often anymore.
Let's be real, we have no idea if that's accurate or not. And seems highly unlikely there's armies of guys out there getting full design goal and magically never write here for some unknown reason. That was likely said at the time, to attempt to rationalise the poll numbers the last time DMSI users were polled on their results, which were quite unflattering.
I ran SM3 long ago. It was like listening to nothing the entire time. For 192 days. It was such a massive letdown, as I was patiently waiting, day after day, for my AM6 run to be completed in order to run it as per directions. Now, I hardly did the bare minimum in hours, I took down my big journal from long ago, it's in the forum graveyard, so I'll post the hours here now. I took things VERY seriously and rearranged my life to allow the subs the best chance to succeed! For example, my AM6 run I racked up 3,370.5 hours over 192 days! When I ran SM3, I racked up 3,610 hours over 192 days! I really gave them free reign, man that wasn't easy to do I'll tell you, but I dedicated myself...
When I finally was able to start SM3 after my AM6 run, I was like a kid on Christmas morning! But over time, as the run continued to underwhelm, I can't tell you how many times I was convinced my files were damaged. I downloaded them, over and over. And reinstalled my music program on my PC, over and over. Reset all the settings, over and over. Thinking something must be wrong with things. I ended up refunding it eventually, deeply disappointed and disillusioned about "aura/attraction" programs, and moved on. There wasn't very much positive press for either magnet, in line with actual tangible sexual results, either. It was about current DMSI level, both in post themes, and in tangible sexual success.
It has gradually became more and more apparent to me based off personal as well as other's experiences here...the "inner" programs, that deal with the self, can work from here. However, once you introduce the idea of "making others do things through you listening to the sub", like the "aura/attraction" programs, that's where things seem to fall flat. It just doesn't seem to be realistic. Maybe one day that can become possible, but in my years of being here and all the money I've spent, and reading thousands and thousands of posts from others attempting to do the same, I haven't seen much to show me it can be. We'll see if that changes some day. Hope that helps.
(05-11-2019, 08:03 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]People who got laid om DMSi don't come here often anymore.
You are just feeling depressed that it's not gonna work. Which means you expect alot from subliminals.
This was just like me. I wanted to fix my mind but I expected the sub to do everything. It was the expectations which were killing my efforts.
Then I stopped caring and started focusing on healing myself emotionally that's all I focused on. Didn't give a damn about my depression and messed up cognitive functions... I just let go..
I focus on stuff which really matters in life..Only then I started seeing results.
It's truly horrifying what fear can do to a person.
Just work on yourself and don't get disappointed by reading external stuff.. Once you start trusting your gut instinct then you will reach your true potential.
The inner voice..
first off all - Zane you have come a great way. Congrats.
I second Zane. I also recognize myself in your behavior and seeking something on the outside to give you some kind of relief. That’s not going to work. You need to reach inward and take on that journey for subliminals to even be able to work. It’s a long journey and it may feel uncomfortable and like you are treading on unexplored soil, but that will too become familiar. Reach in and explore your inner world and your questions will be answered by themselves.
I don't think the technology is at a level yet where we can listen to the sub and have women approach us on a consistent basis.
Have people probably gotten laid because of DMSI? I'm sure they have. Is it powerful enough for you to listen to a few loops and go outside and have women approach you anytime you listen? Not yet.
Will it get to that level of power one day? Who knows.
You guys have to remember this sub is trying to get other people to do things rather than making you do things like most normal subs. That's not easy and it's never been done before.
I found IML in 2013 and one thing I can say for sure is that as time passes by tech only improves.. Indeed it will be possible to reach that level and people will describe it with one word.. "Miracle"
I sometimes thing that people overestimate the subs effectiveness without you being part of doing the work. It’s YOU who attract people, not the sub. And if you don’t have the part of “you” in that equation in balance and in conscious control, the effectiveness of the subliminal and your ability to carry out what it tells you is limited. Finding yourself is scary because you can’t depend on other people but find your own way in life, and the inability to confront that fear will dampen progress and become limiting.
(05-11-2019, 10:50 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]It has gradually became more and more apparent to me based off personal as well as other's experiences here...the "inner" programs, that deal with the self, can work from here. However, once you introduce the idea of "making others do things through you listening to the sub", like the "aura/attraction" programs, that's where things seem to fall flat. It just doesn't seem to be realistic. Maybe one day that can become possible, but in my years of being here and all the money I've spent, and reading thousands and thousands of posts from others attempting to do the same, I haven't seen much to show me it can be. We'll see if that changes some day. Hope that helps.
I agree with the “inner” vs attraction argument catman. I did get good results from SM and DMSI’s but I felt these results were because of changes in me which caused women to be more attracted or magnetized towards me. For example during dmsi numerous (5-10) different women commented on either how sexy or how pleasant my voice was. While not running dmsi I have never received that complement in my life. I never saw women “magically” appear in my life but more did appear in my life during dmsi and sm because of changes in me.
A few Years ago, I start using affirmations and it was very simple "I LOVE MYSELF" 10 to 60 times a day, for 3 months I did that. The changed was I really fell in love with myself and not only that but it overflow into all areas of my life. After 3 months I notice women acting very strange around me Like pornographic. I went to a cafe for a coffee and to read a book and this couple walked in, The bf proceeded to the counter and do their order while His gf glanced at me and around and started bending over at front of me... Later I took a bus ride home and some girls decide to open my window, She stuck her ass in my face and a lot of other crazy stuff was happening. I remember walking along and saw a window reflection of myself and I stood out from the crowd. That's only because I use "I LOVE MYSELF" Greenduck is correct "It’s YOU who attract people, not the sub" And It's how you see yourself - women response to that. I ended up in a seven year relationship and now I'm back here to try new things
From WM: "Manifests into your life an abundance of beautiful single women with whom you can socialize, date and have sex."
From SM: " It actually turns the tables and gets beautiful women to approach, pursue and try to seduce YOU!"
"This program is intended to attract (and manifest) beautiful women who want to have sex with the user and then get both of you to keep going until sex happens."
" the program works to manifest into your life multiple beautiful women who will very much want and need to have physical penetrative sex with you."
"Women will be approaching and trying to seduce you earlier in the program, and more aggressively."
Sounds like the subs are supposed to do something as well. They're supposed to manifest attractive women into one's life, and in the case of SM, women who will have sex with you.
Although I agree that by the sounds of it, these programs are MORE focused on changing YOU to become more attractive, these components are still there.
As for DMSI, it's supposed to create an aura so attractive that women try to get into YOUR pants.
So I would say these subs are supposed to do something to affect the external environment.
(06-01-2019, 05:10 PM)meanandfunny Wrote: [ -> ]A few Years ago, I start using affirmations and it was very simple "I LOVE MYSELF" 10 to 60 times a day, for 3 months I did that. The changed was I really fell in love with myself and not only that but it overflow into all areas of my life. After 3 months I notice women acting very strange around me Like pornographic. I went to a cafe for a coffee and to read a book and this couple walked in, The bf proceeded to the counter and do their order while His gf glanced at me and around and started bending over at front of me... Later I took a bus ride home and some girls decide to open my window, She stuck her ass in my face and a lot of other crazy stuff was happening. I remember walking along and saw a window reflection of myself and I stood out from the crowd. That's only because I use "I LOVE MYSELF" Greenduck is correct "It’s YOU who attract people, not the sub" And It's how you see yourself - women response to that. I ended up in a seven year relationship and now I'm back here to try new things
Yeah, for me, the "I love myself" is so fucking key. Like, it instantly shifts something for me. Selflove is now something im working with aswell, it also shifts to an inner locus of control and checkmates neediness, BECAUSE it centres the person. Atleast, for me it does.
1. First version of SM and had about 20 one night stands for those 6 months and another 15 in the next six months after. .
1.1 For whatever my 2 cents is worth -One reason I believe I had had a lot of success on attractions subs is
I never wait/waited for something, as it may or may not have happened.
My attitude is 'I gotta go make something happen with exactly how I am now' even if I feel resistance or fear or like crap.
2. The next two years after SM I did Alpha for a second time and natural seduction for men among other random subs, confidence, sales success, etc I was on tinder and going out 1 a week at least.. Was with approximately 30 woman..
2.1 The subs definitely assisted in my identity, congruence, confidence as someone who could and does do that, had no where near that level of success before subs but I still had to take action, try a lot and fail a lot,, lose out etc
DMSI is not so successful for me will post about in appropriate thread