10-16-2013, 09:21 AM
(10-16-2013, 03:51 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: I'll go on the points that are mentioned in the store and what I think needs to be changed based on my experience:
1. Have let go of any negative self image, attitudes, thoughts and beliefs about yourself.
- [This one just needs to be more powerful. It didn't really seem too noticeable for me, and this may be because of GSF.]
2. Have a powerful, positive sense of self respect, self esteem, self image and self worth.
- [When you say "powerful", I think, like, god-near-invincible. This one needs to be stepped up too. Not in an Ego way, of course, but it needs to be unshakable. I still have times where I second-guess myself simply because someone else is challenging my beliefs or decisions. It's not based on facts they present either, simply self doubt.
I think we need more self-confidence and self-assuredness coupled with self-validation and self-everything.
Basically, everything should come from ourselves so that we don't rely on others or situations for it. Value, acceptance, importance, security, connection, love, permission, worthiness, deserving, validation, basically all the main needs that human beings have should be internally fulfilled. I think there are 8. People like Tony Robbins have discovered them, and I'm going to ask my coach today what they are so that we can put that in this sub.
Basically, everything everyone does is to fulfill these 8 or so needs.]
3. Have unshakable self confidence.
- [Same as above, unshakable should indeed be unshakable. But not just in a "rock solid" way, but also in a progressive way. We should be confident and self-assured of where we are going (i.e. where we want to go) so that even if there are doubters (or "sh*t" tests) it won't matter because we continue on despite seeming set-backs.]
4. Be unaffected by rejection.
- [This one for me was interesting. I am unaffected by rejection, but I still fear rejection before it happens. Not sure what you could do here, maybe make it so that you expect things to go well, and if they don't, you accept it. Then again, who knows when things don't go well? Could simply be a sh*t test. I would ask some of the guys better with women about this one. Maybe Geodude or Ryan if he's still around.]
5. Treat women as people to enjoy the company of, without taking them too seriously, needing them, or being easily upset by them.
- [I didn't receive this one at all. I'm sure there are a lot of reasons, but yeah, something needs to be fixed about this. Again, ask an experienced member.]
6. Have released expectations towards women, which often lead to bad choices, actions, attitudes, thinking and responses.
- [Not sure what this one meant.]
7. Be self sufficient and self reliant mentally, emotionally and otherwise.
- [Emotionally, I'm still all over the place. Very unstable, so that aspect needs to be stepped up. as for the others, like I mentioned earlier, I believe it has to do with the 8 or so needs humans have.]
8. No longer be, or come across to others as “needy”.
- [Don't know about this one either. I assume, though, that neediness comes from a place of believing that another person, thing, or situation will fill a void you feel in yourself. Find a way to fill the void with those needs and find a way to fill whatever other voids people may have.]
9. Take good care of yourself, your hygeine and your appearance, not just because you want to be attractive to beautiful women, but because it makes you feel good about yourself.
- [This one just needs to be stepped-up. We don't want to be clean freaks thouigh, of course.]
10. Be able to effortlessly approach any woman you want – and the more attractive you find her, the easier it will be.
- [I actually completely shut down in this department and only approached women when they were already next to me (so, just started a conversation) and yet, I approached more women while on OGSF.]
11. Be selective about whom you spend your time with, and which women you give your time, interest and affections to.
- [I do have this one, but I also did not seek out new social interactions to give myself options. Basically, I'm around a bunch of needy low-lifes who aren't trying to go anywhere except my one cousin and my one brother. So, I naturally only hang around them.]
12. Exude an aura of confidence, commanding presence and authority, which gets you respect, attention and obedience.
- [ Got this one, but like I said, if I get tested on it, I often second-guess myself and then falter from this.]
13. Exude an aura of sexiness that makes you much more attractive to the beautiful women you encounter. The more beautiful they are, the more attracted and interested they will be.
- [Ok, I do get looks ALL the time now. I also get lots of responses to online stuff, and in real life, women are noticeably interested in me. Having said that, once again, if they test me, BOOM, I fail the test and it doesn't matter how sexy I feel or know I am.
I'm not asking for the whole SM script here, but it would be nice to be able to make some progress with this in AM. Again, I'm not experienced so I don't know how that would be, all I can do is point out what's happening for me, and what I'd like to happen.
Basically I'd like to be able to start dating women and learn from it without being traumatized by the event.
When I'm at work, I can clearly learn from the experiences and remain (for the most part) unaffected by sh*t that goes wrong. I wonder why I can't be the same way with women? I'd definitely like to have that.]
14. Have a Zen attitude, which keeps you calm when other guys would lose control, thus demonstrating your self control and mastery of the situation – an Alpha/dominant male trait.
- [Got that, but I'd like that in the area of women as well. Again, a PROGRESSIVE Zen, though. I feel too much like I'm taking a rest now that I feel better. It's like all the pressure is off, so now I just want to sit on the couch and stare off into space. I've got no motivation to do anything, and enjoy feeling calm and at peace too much to risk disturbing it, you know?]
15. Display graceful, confident body language, which broadcasts your power and dominance to all, but especially females (for whom body language is a very important way of communicating, and thus determining the men they are interested in).
- [Got this one completely, except when I get rattled, which isn't often, but I suspect OGSF in that area.]
16. Display the attitude, thinking, actions and speech patterns of an Alpha/Dominant Male.
- [Still have not a clue what this means, so I cannot comment.]
17. No longer seek approval from others, nor be concerned with what they think of you or what you do or say.
- [I still have this one, can probably be cured by the 8 or so needs being met as well as the 5G,OGSF stuff.]
18. Be your own man, who does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants, where he wants.
- [ Got this one, but I still second-guess it because I feel that doing what I want and being what I want won't get me what I want (either girls, respect, or what-have-you)]
19. Be in control when dealing with women, and especially beautiful women or women you are interested in.
- [Yes, but the instant I want to try and make something happen, I have to fly by the seat of my pants. I'm learning so I don't think it's a loss of control so much as it's me controlling the interaction the wrong way. It's like I can trust myself and exert my influence in every area except with women because I feel there is something to learn or do. Naturally, I've had times where very beautiful women responded well to me just being me, but I have no idea nor any desire to make anything happen when I am like that. To me, living my life is completely separate from seducing women, if that makes sense.
If the two are the same, then perhaps I need to let go of some beliefs or have new ones.
I've been told that you have to "play" when interacting with women, but when I try to do this, it goes bad. So maybe I don't and I'm just being in-congruent? Again, I'm not an expert, so I don't know.]
20. Be entirely unconcerned about “getting the girl” or achieving sexual interaction, which will make the ladies perceive you as higher status, higher value, and more worthy of both.
- [Yes, totally. To a fault, actually. I now take no action with women whatsoever, except online, where I am simply messaging girls to get better at creating polarity and attraction dynamics. So, they're basically my guinea pigs.
Because I'm unconcerned about getting the girl, I do not go for the girl. How do you go for the girl without caring if she's responsive or not? What's the sweet spot where you do all you can without being desperate, and be unconcerned enough without giving up on chances you may have had?
To be honest, I'd rather have success with women than looks from them, you know? There's a balance, I'm sure, but taking action needs to be a part of this. An alpha male doesn't just show up and make everyone's head turn, he can also engage and interact with them. We want to be Mount Olympus, yes, but we want to bring our divine selves to the people, if that makes sense.]
21. Be easily able and willing to walk away from people and situations you don”t like, and TELL HER NO – whether it”s to her asking for sex or anything else.
- [Yes, I can do this, but I can't do the opposite, which is be easily able and willing to INITIATE conversations with people.]
22. Be in complete control of yourself and your environment, and YOU will be the one who controls when, how, and with whom you have sex.
- [Got this, except in the sex department.]
23. Develop and display a fantastic sense of humor, which will make you socially popular and attractive to others, especially beautiful women.
- [Meh, it's getting there.]
24. Be entirely comfortable in social situations of any type, whether they are familiar to you or not.
- [Yes, but comfort is not the issue for me so much as involvement and being comfortable being a part of it. I mean, I can chat with people and not freak out, but it's still something I have no great desire to get good at. If I could go through life without having to talk to anyone ever, I'd be fine. Comfortable too.
So again, I'm comfortable, but rest on that comfort too much. It's like I'm tired of dealing with stress, so now that I have the zen and the comfort, I'd rather take a breather than keep going.]
25. And do it all while being polite and graceful!
- [Yep, polite and graceful I got, though I wonder sometimes if the politeness is too polite.]
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Anyhow, that's it for now. Again, I'll ask my coach about those needs. I believe it to be VERY important to being a self-sufficient individual.
Thanks for the opportunity to help with this sub.
Hey Sarge,
Self Acceptance, Self Approval, Self Control, Self Discipline, Self Love, Self Forgiveness, Forgiving others, Gratitude, Self Esteem, Positive Body Image, Body Language, Life Purpose, Step outside comfort zone on a continual basis, learning from mistakes, Self Confidence, Leading interactions, Become social. Each time I step outside my comfort zone, I live, learn, love, and grow. Seek the challenge seems like the major piece that can amplify all areas. The 6 needs boil down to Seek the challenge (step outside your comfort zone).
Knowledge demands application.
There is only abundance.
Seek the challenge and step outside your comfort zone.
There is only abundance.
Seek the challenge and step outside your comfort zone.