07-14-2021, 04:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-14-2021, 04:56 PM by LionMonkey.)
(07-12-2021, 01:27 PM)tolgaocal80 Wrote:
hi LM, I want to say the effects that you wrote about AM is also happened a few times to me, it is very direct, I didn't use WM yet though
you know, generally directiveness might be a problem especially when it is comes to socialize and seducing women, might be very bold and you may seem creepy, I read all your wm journals but didn't see sm journal.
if I am correct you both used SM and WM, which one do you think had been most usefull for you to get laid, I mean, if you would comparise them rather than AM and WM?
which one would be the first sub do you want to use after AM?
I am very inexperienced about relationships and trying to get some ideas about it, thanks if you have time to write somethings
You are welcome tolgaocal80
Keep in mind that I used the old AM 5.0 with (4G) because I was just getting back into this whole subliminal thing again after many years away. Somehow I lost connection with it after being in a relationship for 1 year.
Probably partly because I had to use earbuds every night when sleeping beside the ex gf. It became too uncomfortable I think...
Now I'm back and I'm very happy to see how crazy subliminals can work.
I did buy and use SM for a while after my first run of AM I believe.. I don't know why there's no SM journal.. it's so long time ago.. and also strange is, I just found out.. I don't have SM in my download page as well.
After using AM, if you just want to get laid, I think you should go for SM as it is designed for that.
That will give you some experience that you might need.. I don't know what your goal is though.
My experience with SM is limited.. I remember while on it, I wrote something about girls thinking I was gay LOL.. but I don't recall much from SM.
WM is great in making you more naturally attractive to women WHEN THEY ARE AROUND YOU.
Currently I feel it does 0 when they are not interacting with you and AM did a much better job of that. Like girls would stare at me or feel something sexual towards me on AM.
I just checked my old WM Journal from the 1. run and I was going out and socializing a lot
LionMonkeys 1. Run of WM – Crazy Stories
Looking at some of Shannon's feedback and some other guys, I feel them much clearer now than I did back then hahah.. Thx guys for trying to help my younger self out!!
Brings out fun memories reading the old journal and even I was a little surprised that I was such a bad motherfucker at times but also such a pussy at other times.
I was pretty good at hiding my ego still back then but it didn't matter to girls when you got social proof and was decently confident.
My second run is not worth mentioning as I was 2 years into my relationship and did not socialize much at all.
I think the biggest factor for, if those subliminals are going to help you get results is that you need to be taking action frequently.
You need to be around women if you want to have WM or SM working with you.
My results came when I wasn't thinking too much about things but I was seeking discomfort. (actually WM made it feel less uncomfortable to just say and do some of the things I did)
Then I got some fine results and got knocked down from my horse.
So here's my simple formula for success, using subliminals based on my experience:
a) Listen to subs correctly
b) Take action to change your lifestyle (i.e. if you haven't been around chicks or meeting them in the last month or two, start actively going out to meet some chicks again. If that scares you, have a friend or find a friend to go out with and start from there).
Most of my old friends who I used to go out with has either been married or gotten into a relationship.
I could have been one of them as well but I chose to break up with my ex. because deep down I didn't want to settle yet.
I look for younger guys to party with, around a decade younger – not necessary but they are just more energized to be social.
c) Don't put pressure on yourself once out in the crowds. Set a goal for the outing but not too high. A goal could be like, say hi to 1 girl/group. Start low and work your way up.
Kind of like exercising.. if you haven't exercised for months, you'll be weak as fuck even though you might look ok. The first 2-3 weeks, you will feel everything. Once you've exercised for a month or two, you kind of feel strong again and look better. You also have a much better sense of what you can do to push yourself and to go harder to work the body to more perfection and strength.
This principle applies well to socializing and meeting chicks as well I found.
d) Focus on being present to the moment
e) If that is what you really want in life, you WILL MAKE TIME AND SPACE FOR IT.
Or else you just SAY you want it.
And I guess you are not ready to do something about it.
Btw. this formula is just a guideline.
You can tweak it to whatever works best for you.
But I tell you this..
It's NO BULLSHIT and based on my experiences.
Go for SM if you want sex.
Go for WM if you want to be more naturally attractive to women.
I can't speak for SM.
But I do think WM may lack a bit of proactiveness/desire to engage more with chicks.
It's really good program if you surround yourself with women.
But the desire/proactiveness to engage chicks isn't very strong. At least not on the 6 days I've run the sub.
Anyway, hope it helps lol. Got caught up writing...
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[WM Stage 1 - Day 6] – More sleep, voice changes & staring guys
Hello there!
Quick update!
I tend to sleep longer since switching to WM. It's like I need more rest and I don't wake up until 30 to 60 minutes after WM have stopped.
Noticed my voice being naturally louder and more engaging/aggressive lately.
Yet the way I talk is also more with tact.. there's a new rhythm, like a more seductive and authentic way I think.
It's weird but at the same time it feels quite natural.
Another weird thing lately is I see guys staring, holding eye-contact.
It has happened many times and most of them are walking with a chick. So weird!
Then there are guys walking by themselves. They often times give me more space to walk.
Anyway.. besides those things..
A chick jumped into the elevator with me and I was a smooth motherfukcer.
She laughed hard at my joke and proceeded with continuing the joke.
Didn't hear clearly what she said so it should have been really awkward but it wasn't and we parted ways.
On WM it is like words are more easily coming to my mind of what to say spontaneously and I think it is because I'm more comfortable around chicks.
Also there was another chick, she I found out later, is in a relationship but when she was in my presence, she was also very reactive and submissive.
With her I had a harder time to find words to say or take some physical action. Maybe bc. she was in a relationship.
I did notice my voice changing rhythm and resonance when I looked at her, speaking.
Anyways.. I'll be out partying and socializing this weekend!! Both fri and sat.
It's going to be FUUUUN.
Putting WM to the more serious testing fields!
BE GREAT!
-LM
1. Do whatever you want.. risk whatever your gut tells you because.. you know you have good intentions.
2. Pressure forms the man.
3. Clarity gives space for better decisions.