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EPRHA 2 after Version 1
07-12-2018, 02:17 AM
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EPRHA 2 after Version 1
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I have started the version 2 after listening to the free version for 6 months. The previous journal is at
https://www.subliminal-talk.com/Thread-U...e-Version-

I stopped listening to ver 1 based on my belief that all healing is done. I had a break period which lasted for about a month. Initially I had thought of short break as recommended but during period I got confused. Some of the things came back. I started getting irritated on small things. This got me into thinking whether the effects were temporary or permanent. I kept observing. Overall the effect was not temporary, however there were certain things which got reversed. I got irritated more, angry more and my concentration / focus decreased.

My earlier plan was to start with Ultra Sucess and Luck Magnifier combo. But then I decided to start E2 based on desire to clear all the internal junk. My decision was further strengthened by the fact that E2 contains Overcome Guilt Shame & Fear sub.

So here I am listening to E2 for the last 2 days. I intend to listen for at least 3 months.

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07-12-2018, 02:19 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
The effect so far for the first 2 days is good. I feel that E2 has picked up from where E1 finished. I have experienced the sudden reversal of irritability and managed to start work on my side stuff once more.

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07-15-2018, 11:49 PM (This post was last modified: 07-15-2018 11:51 PM by guyinlahore.)
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 5

If you have read my journal for E1 you would know that when I ended the sub, at that time I had some disturbing feelings regarding homosexuality / gay. Shortly afterwards I stopped listening to the sub.

Now when I think of it, I think the sub had started to touch some old stuff regarding my childhood abuse.I had noticed that people were behaving strangely towards me. I also noticed different feelings inside. I did not felt normal. Maybe I started to associate myself with homosexuality during the abuse period. It is not easy for to think and realize about the emotional state at that time. I think it might be that the sub had stirred feelings which arose during the abuse. I stopped listening to it and that feelings/ experience was left opened. I had a gap of about 1 month before I started E2. During this time I was desperately looking to overcome it. I searched this forum. Shannon does not make any sub which can change your sexuality. I looked around and found a site which makes erotic hypnosis. There was a hypnosis mainly targeted at women which would change the sexuality and make them interested in women (lesbian) and not like men. It seemed suitable. I listened to it for about 2 weeks. It made a major difference in me and people around me. However it was I think around 50% of what I wanted. I stopped it before starting E2. After starting E2, I think now that emotional state is gone like 95%. I can still feel it sometimes. Once I was out in the mall and stopped E2, and within minutes I felt so different.

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07-19-2018, 10:23 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Sounds like you need to start working with accepting what you are feeling. Whatever it is. If you are gay, that is OK. If you're not, that is also OK. That is what you want to arrive to. Best of luck with your healing!

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07-19-2018, 06:46 PM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
It is my sincere belief that changing one's sexual orientation is not any of my business. I believe that because there is so much confusion and misinformation about sexual orientation out there, and I know that someone would try to use it to change someone against their will, and without their knowledge and consent. I am not willing to be a party to that, so I will not make a subliminal that will change your sexual orientation. The only things I make that will touch on that are E1/2, which can have the effect you experienced, and DMSI-A which can cause you to process things like that or "come out of the closet" if you are not necessarily fully of the orientation you thought you were.

But nothing that will change what is already there, except to heal confusion, trauma and pain.

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07-22-2018, 02:37 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
(07-19-2018 10:23 AM)Greenduck Wrote:  Sounds like you need to start working with accepting what you are feeling. Whatever it is. If you are gay, that is OK. If you're not, that is also OK. That is what you want to arrive to. Best of luck with your healing!

In my opinion, this gay affiliation started after my abuse. Lets see what the sub does in the future.

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07-22-2018, 02:38 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
(07-19-2018 06:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:  It is my sincere belief that changing one's sexual orientation is not any of my business. I believe that because there is so much confusion and misinformation about sexual orientation out there, and I know that someone would try to use it to change someone against their will, and without their knowledge and consent. I am not willing to be a party to that, so I will not make a subliminal that will change your sexual orientation. The only things I make that will touch on that are E1/2, which can have the effect you experienced, and DMSI-A which can cause you to process things like that or "come out of the closet" if you are not necessarily fully of the orientation you thought you were.

But nothing that will change what is already there, except to heal confusion, trauma and pain.

I agree. In my case, if there was no abuse I might not think like that and might have accepted it. I am planning to run E2 for full 6 months and see.

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07-23-2018, 02:04 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 13

I feel that E1 had like a dampening / cooling effect. When I used it I felt relaxed calm peaceful. On E2 I realize it goes into deeper level. It's like I am analyzing my behavior what I am thinking what I am doing. Another thing I noticed is that I feel like I am taking a break from moving forward and more like inspecting and looking.

I had a major outburst kind of anger 2 days back. I was in control some of time. It's like I could not express my self.

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07-27-2018, 03:34 AM
Post: #9
RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 17

I feel very demotivated. Do not want to do anything. Otherwise I feel quite comfortable talking to people around me.

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07-30-2018, 02:53 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 20

I feel so detached from the material world. A month ago if I thought about money I would have wanted boatloads of it. Nice SUV etc.....now I when I think of it, I feel comfortable and happy in my position.

I have fear of success and fear of money....I believe I had..I was thinking after listening to the sub this would decrease and I would put in more effort in my business and job.......now I believe I feel content where I am

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07-30-2018, 12:11 PM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
(07-30-2018 02:53 AM)guyinlahore Wrote:  Day 20

I feel so detached from the material world. A month ago if I thought about money I would have wanted boatloads of it. Nice SUV etc.....now I when I think of it, I feel comfortable and happy in my position.

I have fear of success and fear of money....I believe I had..I was thinking after listening to the sub this would decrease and I would put in more effort in my business and job.......now I believe I feel content where I am

I fear that if i use this program i will have the same effect. Generally, i am pretty content independent of my situation, i am also kind of detached from materialism to some extent. I need a program that motivates me to get things done, more contentment will likely to backfire into more procrastination. I used v1 for a week or two and got this effect. Used V2 for 1 month and got similar effect.
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08-01-2018, 05:15 PM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
(07-30-2018 12:11 PM)ianmarconi Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 02:53 AM)guyinlahore Wrote:  Day 20

I feel so detached from the material world. A month ago if I thought about money I would have wanted boatloads of it. Nice SUV etc.....now I when I think of it, I feel comfortable and happy in my position.

I have fear of success and fear of money....I believe I had..I was thinking after listening to the sub this would decrease and I would put in more effort in my business and job.......now I believe I feel content where I am

I fear that if i use this program i will have the same effect. Generally, i am pretty content independent of my situation, i am also kind of detached from materialism to some extent. I need a program that motivates me to get things done, more contentment will likely to backfire into more procrastination. I used v1 for a week or two and got this effect. Used V2 for 1 month and got similar effect.

You need something like BASE then.

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08-04-2018, 07:25 AM (This post was last modified: 08-04-2018 07:26 AM by Shannon.)
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
(07-30-2018 12:11 PM)ianmarconi Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 02:53 AM)guyinlahore Wrote:  Day 20

I feel so detached from the material world. A month ago if I thought about money I would have wanted boatloads of it. Nice SUV etc.....now I when I think of it, I feel comfortable and happy in my position.

I have fear of success and fear of money....I believe I had..I was thinking after listening to the sub this would decrease and I would put in more effort in my business and job.......now I believe I feel content where I am

I fear that if i use this program i will have the same effect. Generally, i am pretty content independent of my situation, i am also kind of detached from materialism to some extent. I need a program that motivates me to get things done, more contentment will likely to backfire into more procrastination. I used v1 for a week or two and got this effect. Used V2 for 1 month and got similar effect.

"Content with where I am" after "I want more" = "I'm afraid of something that stands between me and what I wanted before I was content with what I have, so I'll just settle for what I have instead of trying to get more."

Which means... keep going.

Just a quick note, E1 did not have temporary effects; what started to fade was what you were working on with E1, but hadn't finished processing and healing and clearing.

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08-13-2018, 02:25 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 34

I have now started to feel some good effects meaning some dampening effects. I am feeling free and relaxed. The small things are less affecting me. My wife says that for the last 1-2 months I am not taking things personally. I just finished one month of E2, so she might be mistaken in the time.

I was in the playground with my family. I took a swing and it felt like a new thing. As it got fast, I got afraid and slowed down. My wife dared me to jump instead of stopping but I could not. For one moment I calculated the jump, landing, speed etc... and thought I can do it but in the end I decided not to jump. I also felt something, some hard thing in my forehead, kinda of headache but no pain, just heavy feeling.

Same thing happened when I took a slide. I was scared and slowed down with my feet. The second time I was a bit more relaxed but still did not went full speed. On the slide it also felt like I was taking a slide first time.

My relationship with parents is rocky. I stopped talking due to some opinion of my mother which I did not like. Instead of confronting her or expressing my feelings, I just choose to become quiet and stopped talking to her.

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08-24-2018, 03:06 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 45

Overall I feel more cheerful. I am more comfortable talking to people in social situations. Friendlier than before. Motivation is still way down. I started an online business few months back and do not feel working on it anymore. Some fear is stopping me from success. I thought the sub would help me overcome the fear of succeeding, the fear of having money, being successful. I think it will take some more time for me to get rid of the things that are stopping me.

I felt very depressed and sad in the last few days. Too many negative thoughts. Feel somewhat better now.

I listen to the sub during with day with the mobile phone in my pocket. During the past few days, it happened that either the volume button got pressed in my pocket and volume became zero or the the sub stopped playing. Since I am using the ultrasonic version, I keep checking the phone several times a day. When I noticed the sub is stopped or at zero volume I corrected it. But a gap arises during the day. eg. if I started the sub at 9 am and it accidentally stopped at 2 pm, that comes to 5 hours of listening. The minimum time is 8 hours in a day. I start the sub again and start counting the time I started the sub again, which comes to around 10 pm to fulfill the minimum 8 hours a day.

I have noticed that whenever the sub stopped during the day, my mood suddenly shifts. I feel angry depressed and lots of feelings of helplessness. In all the cases when I checked the phone the sub was stopped or volume was at zero. I start feeling better when I play it again. That means the sub is addressing some issues.

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08-25-2018, 02:17 AM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 46

I feel very depressed. I feel bad thinking about my life, about the things I am unable to achieve in my life. I think of my self as someone stuck between failure and success.

I do not feel like doing anything. Feel like running away from everything. I have this unknown fear of everything. Just want too bury my head in a pillow and sleep.

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08-29-2018, 04:26 PM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Hiding leads to more of what you have.

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08-31-2018, 01:25 AM
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Day 52

I am getting more vocal. The depression and negative feeling is somewhat better. Got busy with a ton load of work at office. Maybe that helped in diversion or sub healing something, don't know.

I have notice that I am getting more confrontational and direct with people. I feel that some fear when talking to someone about any issue or discussing is gone. I feel in my office when I am talking to someone I just talk very straight, somewhat less diplomatic. The fear that is gone is making me talk more straight and what i want and less diplomatic and less beating around the bush.

I can also approach completer strangers and people much more confidently.

I had an issue with government agency. It was not my mistake. They sent me a notice wrongly. I went to the office and talked to them and they understood the situation. They took back the notice. This is huge difference for me. If it had happened a year ago, I might have tried to just ignore it and pray for it to go away.

I have always been very uncomfortable with uniformed people / people with authority including traffic police. I never committed any crime apart from 3 or 4 parking tickets in my life. My fear has always been like I am guilty and will be penalized and could never be comfortable talking to them. Low confidence was also part of the problem.I could say my confidence / self esteem is better and I can breathe much better in presence of uniformed people. I am more relaxed and myself.

I have always felt an empty feeling inside me in such situations when questioned / asked / had to talk or explain myself. This is now gone to a large extent. I feel less stressful.

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09-03-2018, 10:37 PM
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RE: EPRHA 2 after Version 1
Day 56

I decide to face my fears. How do i do that? No idea at first.

Then I started of thinking about it. The moment I hesitated doing something or any hesitation came into my mind, I started thinking why am I fearful, why am I hesitating about it. What is holding me back? I found that I was able to do what I thought / decided not to do.

I have also started thinking about success / wealth / income. What is holding me back? I am thinking in terms of particular item eg. what is holding me back from getting promotion in my job? I am thinking in terms of my feeling at that time.

I have dreamt in the past 2 days. Overall positive. One night I saw an apple tree in blossom with one sole apple on it. Last night, I dreamt I was in a camp or a group. I did not feel comfortable and moved my sleeping place to a solitary place instead of sleeping with a group. Then I dreamt that I was in a building very basic structure / sort of like an old prison. I was eating food and a lion was sitting at the centre and everyone was treating him like a leader / king. I got some food in my plate some curry on top of a bread and suddenly got scared of the lion and dropped it on the floor. Then I picked up some more bread (no curry) in my hand.

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09-17-2018, 05:01 AM
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Day 69

I use a spare phone to listen to sub during the day. Toay I forgot the phone some place and could not listen. I feel very light and relaxed. Today I was able to do so many things in my office in one day.

Actually when the sub is working, I feel tired mentally and do not want to do anything. I feel like resting / sleeping. From today I plan to change the sub usage to night time. Since I have children in the same room, I have to use earphones. I just got the sleep phones; not the original a chinese copy. It is basically earphone inside a hair band similar to hair band you use in sports.

I had few odd dreams but nothing significant. I feel they were more related to me thinking about things happening during the day.

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