Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Steven]

Shannon,

Thank you for the clarification about the classifications.

[dissonance]

Is the ASRB a very important aspect of the 5.5? What's the possibility of removing it, so that it can be listened to without requiring several hours straight of uninterrupted listening? I understand people are willing to put in the work and effort to listen to subs, but I feel like this requirement of listening uninterrupted for several hours is hard to achieve and structure around daily life.

ASRB is a technology that required 6 months to develop. If it wasn't solving a serious issue, why would I do that?

ASRB takes about an hour to calculate and implement at the end of a very long, very intricate build process. Why would I do that if it wasn't important?

You guys ask for miracles and when I give you what you ask for, you decide it's not good enough or you want it to be easier or more convenient. Well thete are limits to what is possible. You want to get the results? You want to be safe? Do it my way.

Don't change the subs.

Got it. Didn't know these things, that's why I asked, sorry. And I didn't mean to sounds like I was trying to "decide it's not good enough", I apologize if I did.

By the way, are MYP subs 5.5G compatible? If so, is MYP Stunningly Beautiful and Physically Gorgeous Girlfriend 5.5G a possibility? (and/or any of the variants, blonde, mixed race, brunette, etc, including just Perfect Girlfriend with no prefix)?

It's been relatively stressful for me lately to try so hard to create programs to achieve virtually impossible goals (DMSI) and then observe the response it gets. Very frustrating. It has also left me somewhat short of patience. So if my response is not appropriate, just take it with a grain of salt.

I haven't finished figuring out how to make manifestation all it can be in subliminals.

Theoretically, all I need to do is pop the core statement from a MYP 5G in the 5.5G skeleton script and away we go. Realistically, nothing is ever that simple.

All good! I gotchu. Well lets have this be an official request for future endeavors... MYP Stunningly Beautiful and Physically Gorgeous Girlfriend 5.5G.

[heavysm]

So for my example of 80 days versus 96, would 80 days be the same as 64 days in terms of our brains assimilating the extra listening time?

This makes no sense to me.

Ok, for example we're supposed to listen for 32 days starting out. Not 20 days, or 15, but 32 with consistent listening for each day (ideally).

If we don't listen for 32 days it's considered a waste since it takes the full 32 to assimilate changes (more permanent effect).

For the 96 day thing, since that's 3 x 32 days, I'm wondering if cutting it short to like 80 days means we technically only listened for 64 days (2 complete cycles, and not 3)?

I was under the impression that our brains sort of reset if we don't complete any given cycle of 32 days. So we literally waste our time even if we listen for 31 days, stop, then our brains go back as if we didn't listen at all.

[Shannon]

So for my example of 80 days versus 96, would 80 days be the same as 64 days in terms of our brains assimilating the extra listening time?

This makes no sense to me.

Ok, for example we're supposed to listen for 32 days starting out. Not 20 days, or 15, but 32 with consistent listening for each day (ideally).

If we don't listen for 32 days it's considered a waste since it takes the full 32 to assimilate changes (more permanent effect).

For the 96 day thing, since that's 3 x 32 days, I'm wondering if cutting it short to like 80 days means we technically only listened for 64 days (2 complete cycles, and not 3)?

I was under the impression that our brains sort of reset if we don't complete any given cycle of 32 days. So we literally waste our time even if we listen for 31 days, stop, then our brains go back as if we didn't listen at all.

Okay, I understand.

No you get "credit" for every day listened, because every repetition builds the strength of the relevant neural pathways.

[Shawn]

I wonder if anyone had some strange reaction to V2.2. Did it yesterday for one loop. After almost an hour my heart was beating like crazy and I felt a pain in my chest but I finished the loop. Today I started listening and had the same after not even 20min so I stopped here. It has been four days since stopping V2.1, so not a valid tester. However, interested if anyone experienced similar things.

Ok, looks like nobody else has problems like these mentioned above. Today I did one loop again. Almost no pain in my chest but felt completely overwhelmed afterwards. Went swimming later, but had to go home soon. Felt panic and like almost collapsed. Don't know why this is happening. Either I am not able to adjust myself to these high energy levels or my subconscious would rather knock me out than making me irresistibly. Didn't experienced something like that with previous versions, just slightly increased heartbeat.

It sounds like you are experiencing a reaction to extreme fear being triggered by the program's instruction set. I would suggest no more than one loop a day, and at a moderate to low volume, until this reaction fades.

Yeah, I suspect something like this. It probably fits well with my outer experience. Until now it's more like aura of invisibility. Children were almost running into me a few times, customers who came after me at the supermarket were almost served first, and even if I was alone at the service point, stuff isn't noticing me forever (or just doesn't care, don't know). I feel a bit like a ghost.

[Shannon]

I wonder if anyone had some strange reaction to V2.2. Did it yesterday for one loop. After almost an hour my heart was beating like crazy and I felt a pain in my chest but I finished the loop. Today I started listening and had the same after not even 20min so I stopped here. It has been four days since stopping V2.1, so not a valid tester. However, interested if anyone experienced similar things.

Ok, looks like nobody else has problems like these mentioned above. Today I did one loop again. Almost no pain in my chest but felt completely overwhelmed afterwards. Went swimming later, but had to go home soon. Felt panic and like almost collapsed. Don't know why this is happening. Either I am not able to adjust myself to these high energy levels or my subconscious would rather knock me out than making me irresistibly. Didn't experienced something like that with previous versions, just slightly increased heartbeat.

It sounds like you are experiencing a reaction to extreme fear being triggered by the program's instruction set. I would suggest no more than one loop a day, and at a moderate to low volume, until this reaction fades.

Yeah, I suspect something like this. It probably fits well with my outer experience. Until now it's more like aura of invisibility. Children were almost running into me a few times, customers who came after me at the supermarket were almost served first, and even if I was alone at the service point, stuff isn't noticing me forever (or just doesn't care, don't know). I feel a bit like a ghost.

Are you saying the program makes you feel like a ghost, or you used to before it?

[Shawn]

I wonder if anyone had some strange reaction to V2.2. Did it yesterday for one loop. After almost an hour my heart was beating like crazy and I felt a pain in my chest but I finished the loop. Today I started listening and had the same after not even 20min so I stopped here. It has been four days since stopping V2.1, so not a valid tester. However, interested if anyone experienced similar things.

Ok, looks like nobody else has problems like these mentioned above. Today I did one loop again. Almost no pain in my chest but felt completely overwhelmed afterwards. Went swimming later, but had to go home soon. Felt panic and like almost collapsed. Don't know why this is happening. Either I am not able to adjust myself to these high energy levels or my subconscious would rather knock me out than making me irresistibly. Didn't experienced something like that with previous versions, just slightly increased heartbeat.

It sounds like you are experiencing a reaction to extreme fear being triggered by the program's instruction set. I would suggest no more than one loop a day, and at a moderate to low volume, until this reaction fades.

Yeah, I suspect something like this. It probably fits well with my outer experience. Until now it's more like aura of invisibility. Children were almost running into me a few times, customers who came after me at the supermarket were almost served first, and even if I was alone at the service point, stuff isn't noticing me forever (or just doesn't care, don't know). I feel a bit like a ghost.

Are you saying the program makes you feel like a ghost, or you used to before it?

The last time I was almost invisible was before AM6. This "invisibility" occurred only with V2.2. So this could be an extreme fear trying to hide me, or even a conflict with V2.1 as there was only a 4 days gap between both of them.

With V1 I got extreme outer effects after not even a whole loop, but the results decreased fast, with every day more. With V2.1 not many IOIs, but got some here and there (also this extreme one with the 15 year old teen) as well as really good inner effects. V2.2 feels just extreme intense and overwhelming until now, so maybe it's like with too many mones, don't know (no, I didn't use mones).

Today the loop seem to go better but can't tell about outer effects. Anyway, still contemplating about a break and either continue with E2, because I wasn't done as I stopped, just wanted to experience what DMSI is doing at the current state. Or doing V2.1 for a month (because of the good inner effects I noticed) and then continue E2 until December before I try V2.2 again.

EDIT: Went for a walk at the park. Many people were there, but no looks or IOIs. But nobody was running into me or something.

[Illumi]

Shannon to who would you generaly recommend E6?
So that after E2 they should fully accept and act on other subs like SM3!

[Natious]

Shannon to who would you generaly recommend E6?
So that after E2 they should fully accept and act on other subs like SM3!

Anyone who's not currently living an amazing life and consistently going for their dreams can benefit from E2 in my opinion.
How I see it is that someone healthy can already do all the things that the big programs guide you to do (SM, AM, BAMM). A healthy person already has boundaries, accepts his/her sexuality and goes for what they want! Even if it's seemingly impossible. Other subs just help you move there faster. BUT, without being healthy and having a strong base (that's the aim of E2), you will face a lot of negativity on your journey and possibly will miss all the amazing things on your journey.

Even worse, you might have gone for the wrong things for the wrong reasons. This will be very hard to admit to yourself, but it happens to everyone at some point. These are few of the reasons why I run E2.

[Bookstacks DC737]

Does DMSI have a tangible effect on confidence and socializing? I start a sales job next week and I have an interest in DMSI as well, would be great if the sub could assist in increasing my sales #s

[jonathan4all]

Does DMSI have a tangible effect on confidence and socializing? I start a sales job next week and I have an interest in DMSI as well, would be great if the sub could assist in increasing my sales #s

You confidence and socializing will be towards your goal which is "sex" in DMSI. You should run a more general improvement sub like AM6 or ASC or BASE or exclusively AYPJ (Attract your perfect job) to fulfill your goal. Your endgame is more important than an instant gratification. Choose wisely.

[myth]

The new goal script may never be revealed. Probably will, but might not.

I'm not asking you to reveal the specific DMSI goal at all and am oddly fine not knowing what it is, but I was curious about something. Yesterday was my first real time spent around other people all week, and two extremely clear responders (one of whom was very open to me kissing her within minutes of having met me and asked me to bump into her at a future event) both mentioned their ages to me.

IIRC, you said that the "age of consent" component wasn't part of the winning version of DMSI 2.2's goal? I only wonder because the age admissions were unprompted by either side of the conversation. Admittedly, they also mentioned other non sequitur details that included fertility, outright attraction, and indirect admission of polyamory, so age could've just been another thing that went into their conversational personal ad. Still, if there's no explicit reference to age in 2.2, it makes me wonder if we elicit the specific details that might subconsciously matter to us or only the ones that they think might matter to us. I know that I look half my age, but they also looked young for theirs (they were both the same age) too, so I'm not sure whose list their age was on - mine or theirs. Maybe both.

Oh, also, while I seem to be providing DMSI feedback anyhow: While I didn't notice it with version 1 and could be completely wrong, I think that 2.2 (and 2.1 before it) may be manifesting others (assistants?) into helping me achieve the goal of becoming or being seen as sexier by others. I've seen at least four examples since 2.1 came out. No idea if it's just the OE doing its job or something else, but it's interesting.

[lokko]

Shannon can you create a sub that focuses on Balancing The Autonomic Nervous System. I believe my sexual trauma comes from this issue and is why I have premature ejaculation. Maybe potentially can be added to Ephra v3? Or be added to the premature ejaculation sub that I am planning to run in 3 months.

Real reports:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23102443

Also I think balancing the autonomic system will also help people with other problems such as anxiety, excessive sweating (Which I have), panics, fear..etc

[Shannon]

The new goal script may never be revealed. Probably will, but might not.

I'm not asking you to reveal the specific DMSI goal at all and am oddly fine not knowing what it is, but I was curious about something. Yesterday was my first real time spent around other people all week, and two extremely clear responders (one of whom was very open to me kissing her within minutes of having met me and asked me to bump into her at a future event) both mentioned their ages to me.

IIRC, you said that the "age of consent" component wasn't part of the winning version of DMSI 2.2's goal? I only wonder because the age admissions were unprompted by either side of the conversation. Admittedly, they also mentioned other non sequitur details that included fertility, outright attraction, and indirect admission of polyamory, so age could've just been another thing that went into their conversational personal ad. Still, if there's no explicit reference to age in 2.2, it makes me wonder if we elicit the specific details that might subconsciously matter to us or only the ones that they think might matter to us. I know that I look half my age, but they also looked young for theirs (they were both the same age) too, so I'm not sure whose list their age was on - mine or theirs. Maybe both.

Oh, also, while I seem to be providing DMSI feedback anyhow: While I didn't notice it with version 1 and could be completely wrong, I think that 2.2 (and 2.1 before it) may be manifesting others (assistants?) into helping me achieve the goal of becoming or being seen as sexier by others. I've seen at least four examples since 2.1 came out. No idea if it's just the OE doing its job or something else, but it's interesting.

The current goal phrasing does not limit by age directly.