Shannon's Journal Discussion

[wolverine_i_am]

I want medium and hard haha.

[SargeMaximus]

The models are going absolutely savage.

I, too, feel like my problem has been being too soft as of late. I also wonder how much is nature vs nurture. Fascinating data which reconfirms my own.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

I'm wondering if AM 6 is making me too "soft".

Lol, if you're worried about that don't run WM.

Don't plan to.

[CatMan]

Then you have your "hard" types, who tend to want extreme treatment from men, and this includes (surprisingly) most teenage girls, porn stars, some randomly encountered "bored housewives" you might meet while shopping, most nude models for A/V modeling, bikini models, some women you would encounter at the beach, some teenage strippers, and some bartendresses. About 20% of virgins, and the ones who are most likely to become pregnant during defloration.

This seems to translate to "Manifest Your Inner Bad Boy 5.5G". The program I've theorised about for awhile, haha. I definitely seem to need that kind of "edge", I admit.

Seriously, the idea of two types of programs, medium and hard sounds intriguing, but maybe there is a way to give very high performance on both, if not optimal in one. Naturally, that's optimal for usage and for building sake. I'm sure you'd like to see the end of development on this program to move on to other issues, and are looking to get it as solid as possible asap to move on.

[RisingSon]

The models are going absolutely savage.

I, too, feel like my problem has been being too soft as of late. I also wonder how much is nature vs nurture. Fascinating data which reconfirms my own.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

[sawell54]

Having a hard time narrowing the goal scripting down below three options.

Naive question inbound: Can't you just try each of them?

Well, that is an option... I could build all three, and it would cost me at least 72 hours of work to do so. Then I would have three valid products to offer: "Soft", "Medium" and "Hard". (Referring to the women who would respond to each.)

Then I could make them all available in the store, and give a description of what each is good for. Then you could choose for yourself.

But, this would inevitably lead to someone trying to take advantage of the refund policy by trying to "return" one and get another, or "trade in". Not good.

The options I have in response to that are, offer no refund at all, or make it a bundle pack, at triple the cost.

If I offer no refund, then I lose a lot of sales. If I do the triple pack, then someone's going to use it wrong, screw up their results and then ask for a refund.

So... I think I'll pass. You guys will get the single option that works best overall.

Can you describe the different types of women that would respond to each?

If you don't offer all 3 options in the final version, will it at least affect each type of woman?

There are a lot of different types of women I am testing this against, for the guys, and men for the ladies.

The women in particular who respond to Option 1 are generally "Soft" in that they are innocent, gentle, nice, normal, kind, sweet, etc. Generally skittish and relatively inexperienced. About 40% of virgins fall here.

"Medium" is women who are between soft and hard in terms of how they want to be treated. Surprisingly, most strippers in their teens and 20's fall here instead of "hard", while most teenage girls who are not strippers fall into "hard". In fact, unsurprisingly, it seems most women fall here (in medium). Most bartendresses, most waitresses, some teenage girls, most randomly encountered "bored housewives", most women you would encounter at the beach, and about 40% of virgins. This is the option leading the pack so far for successful responses for women.

Then you have your "hard" types, who tend to want extreme treatment from men, and this includes (surprisingly) most teenage girls, porn stars, some randomly encountered "bored housewives" you might meet while shopping, most nude models for A/V modeling, bikini models, some women you would encounter at the beach, some teenage strippers, and some bartendresses. About 20% of virgins, and the ones who are most likely to become pregnant during defloration.

All three will be affected by each option, but each option peaks for the types mentioned as being "most X".

I am lost.. so you are now adjusting the scripting to tweak the aura into attracting different types of women?

[Shannon]

The models are going absolutely savage.

I, too, feel like my problem has been being too soft as of late. I also wonder how much is nature vs nurture. Fascinating data which reconfirms my own.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

It's not so much surprise really, I have been around the block a few times. It's just that it never fails to amaze me the complete dissonance between a woman's conscious and subconscious desires. I have been seeing these results in modeling runs that touch on this for more than 6 years now. Perfect consistency.

[Shannon]

Naive question inbound: Can't you just try each of them?

Well, that is an option... I could build all three, and it would cost me at least 72 hours of work to do so. Then I would have three valid products to offer: "Soft", "Medium" and "Hard". (Referring to the women who would respond to each.)

Then I could make them all available in the store, and give a description of what each is good for. Then you could choose for yourself.

But, this would inevitably lead to someone trying to take advantage of the refund policy by trying to "return" one and get another, or "trade in". Not good.

The options I have in response to that are, offer no refund at all, or make it a bundle pack, at triple the cost.

If I offer no refund, then I lose a lot of sales. If I do the triple pack, then someone's going to use it wrong, screw up their results and then ask for a refund.

So... I think I'll pass. You guys will get the single option that works best overall.

Can you describe the different types of women that would respond to each?

If you don't offer all 3 options in the final version, will it at least affect each type of woman?

There are a lot of different types of women I am testing this against, for the guys, and men for the ladies.

The women in particular who respond to Option 1 are generally "Soft" in that they are innocent, gentle, nice, normal, kind, sweet, etc. Generally skittish and relatively inexperienced. About 40% of virgins fall here.

"Medium" is women who are between soft and hard in terms of how they want to be treated. Surprisingly, most strippers in their teens and 20's fall here instead of "hard", while most teenage girls who are not strippers fall into "hard". In fact, unsurprisingly, it seems most women fall here (in medium). Most bartendresses, most waitresses, some teenage girls, most randomly encountered "bored housewives", most women you would encounter at the beach, and about 40% of virgins. This is the option leading the pack so far for successful responses for women.

Then you have your "hard" types, who tend to want extreme treatment from men, and this includes (surprisingly) most teenage girls, porn stars, some randomly encountered "bored housewives" you might meet while shopping, most nude models for A/V modeling, bikini models, some women you would encounter at the beach, some teenage strippers, and some bartendresses. About 20% of virgins, and the ones who are most likely to become pregnant during defloration.

All three will be affected by each option, but each option peaks for the types mentioned as being "most X".

I am lost.. so you are now adjusting the scripting to tweak the aura into attracting different types of women?

I am modeling several options for what type of people the program aims to attract sexually. We are looking for one option that attracts the most of the best of them for the most possible users.

[CatMan]

The models are going absolutely savage.

I, too, feel like my problem has been being too soft as of late. I also wonder how much is nature vs nurture. Fascinating data which reconfirms my own.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

I have to agree with you. I'm surprised Shannon was surprised to be honest, lol.

Teenage girls have been addicted to loser bad boys, or "extreme treatment", for as long as I've known and beyond. No surprise to me at all, it's as clear as day to me my whole life. It's mystified me about WHY often, but I can't deny the reality of it playing out constantly. I also agree with how petty and superficial etc. they can be.

"Hard" seems to be the best version to choose for me, seeing as I'm around mostly young women that would seem to respond best to it. Maybe Shannon will make an all rounder program that will work well in all situations. Or, two versions so we can really hone in on what we want. I almost want two versions, so I can really get the "edge" I feel I've needed all my life. I have the trust/comfort stuff already, but the sexual attraction has been my handicap, and I guess women have viewed me as "too nice", "boring", "no edge", what have you. "Hard" would no doubt fix that right quick! Seems like exactly what I've always wanted, "Manifest Your Inner Bad Boy 5.5G", lol!

[RisingSon]

Shannon is indeed the master of models... Here's something I just saw posted on another board I visit.

[Shannon]

The models are going absolutely savage.

I, too, feel like my problem has been being too soft as of late. I also wonder how much is nature vs nurture. Fascinating data which reconfirms my own.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

I have to agree with you. I'm surprised Shannon was surprised to be honest, lol.

Teenage girls have been addicted to loser bad boys, or "extreme treatment", for as long as I've known and beyond. No surprise to me at all, it's as clear as day to me my whole life. It's mystified me about WHY often, but I can't deny the reality of it playing out constantly. I also agree with how petty and superficial etc. they can be.

"Hard" seems to be the best version to choose for me, seeing as I'm around mostly young women that would seem to respond best to it. Maybe Shannon will make an all rounder program that will work well in all situations. Or, two versions so we can really hone in on what we want. I almost want two versions, so I can really get the "edge" I feel I've needed all my life. I have the trust/comfort stuff already, but the sexual attraction has been my handicap, and I guess women have viewed me as "too nice", "boring", "no edge", what have you. "Hard" would no doubt fix that right quick! Seems like exactly what I've always wanted, "Manifest Your Inner Bad Boy 5.5G", lol!

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...#pid120063

I'm trying to tune "Medium" to be the best all-rounder, since it wins the bell curve test.

[RisingSon]

Another note: A lot of this ties in, especially having a 'hungry' attitude or outlook on life. When we are hungry, our body is producing a hormone called "Ghrelin" which has some interesting effects. For that reason, I don't mind being ravenous like AOSI V1 stimulated in some testers!

Aside from increase GH levels–which can lead to muscle gain and fat loss–Ghrelin has numerous other benefits. For example, studies have shown that Ghrelin can have positive effects on learning and memory, and that learning may be best during the day when Ghrelin levels are high². Another potential benefit of Ghrelin is its ability to defend against symptoms related to anxiety/depression brought on by high levels of stress³.

[SargeMaximus]

The models are going absolutely savage.

I, too, feel like my problem has been being too soft as of late. I also wonder how much is nature vs nurture. Fascinating data which reconfirms my own.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

I have to agree with you. I'm surprised Shannon was surprised to be honest, lol.

Teenage girls have been addicted to loser bad boys, or "extreme treatment", for as long as I've known and beyond. No surprise to me at all, it's as clear as day to me my whole life. It's mystified me about WHY often, but I can't deny the reality of it playing out constantly. I also agree with how petty and superficial etc. they can be.

"Hard" seems to be the best version to choose for me, seeing as I'm around mostly young women that would seem to respond best to it. Maybe Shannon will make an all rounder program that will work well in all situations. Or, two versions so we can really hone in on what we want. I almost want two versions, so I can really get the "edge" I feel I've needed all my life. I have the trust/comfort stuff already, but the sexual attraction has been my handicap, and I guess women have viewed me as "too nice", "boring", "no edge", what have you. "Hard" would no doubt fix that right quick! Seems like exactly what I've always wanted, "Manifest Your Inner Bad Boy 5.5G", lol!

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...#pid120063

I'm trying to tune "Medium" to be the best all-rounder, since it wins the bell curve test.

That's too bad. I'd ask you to reconsider simply because if you make all your programs target the widest range, you will lose potency, but they're your subs, and I'm sure you've considered that.

[Shannon]

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

I have to agree with you. I'm surprised Shannon was surprised to be honest, lol.

Teenage girls have been addicted to loser bad boys, or "extreme treatment", for as long as I've known and beyond. No surprise to me at all, it's as clear as day to me my whole life. It's mystified me about WHY often, but I can't deny the reality of it playing out constantly. I also agree with how petty and superficial etc. they can be.

"Hard" seems to be the best version to choose for me, seeing as I'm around mostly young women that would seem to respond best to it. Maybe Shannon will make an all rounder program that will work well in all situations. Or, two versions so we can really hone in on what we want. I almost want two versions, so I can really get the "edge" I feel I've needed all my life. I have the trust/comfort stuff already, but the sexual attraction has been my handicap, and I guess women have viewed me as "too nice", "boring", "no edge", what have you. "Hard" would no doubt fix that right quick! Seems like exactly what I've always wanted, "Manifest Your Inner Bad Boy 5.5G", lol!

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...#pid120063

I'm trying to tune "Medium" to be the best all-rounder, since it wins the bell curve test.

That's too bad. I'd ask you to reconsider simply because if you make all your programs target the widest range, you will lose potency, but they're your subs, and I'm sure you've considered that.

Wait. Let me get this straight.

If I make all my customers happy, I will be producing inferior products?

I don't think you understand what I'm doing here. It doesn't "lose potency" to pick the phrasing that produces the most happy customers.

[SargeMaximus]

Unlike Shannon the models didn't really surprise me that much, but certainly did clarify things. I've spent a lot of time reading and studying current gender issues and such. Why are teenage girls so darn mean? We may never know, but I do know that the teenage girl bullying videos I've seen are usually the most brutal. Just thinking about all the data I've compiled in my head while rummaging through the plights of modern day males and society, is all.

I have to agree with you. I'm surprised Shannon was surprised to be honest, lol.

Teenage girls have been addicted to loser bad boys, or "extreme treatment", for as long as I've known and beyond. No surprise to me at all, it's as clear as day to me my whole life. It's mystified me about WHY often, but I can't deny the reality of it playing out constantly. I also agree with how petty and superficial etc. they can be.

"Hard" seems to be the best version to choose for me, seeing as I'm around mostly young women that would seem to respond best to it. Maybe Shannon will make an all rounder program that will work well in all situations. Or, two versions so we can really hone in on what we want. I almost want two versions, so I can really get the "edge" I feel I've needed all my life. I have the trust/comfort stuff already, but the sexual attraction has been my handicap, and I guess women have viewed me as "too nice", "boring", "no edge", what have you. "Hard" would no doubt fix that right quick! Seems like exactly what I've always wanted, "Manifest Your Inner Bad Boy 5.5G", lol!

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...#pid120063

I'm trying to tune "Medium" to be the best all-rounder, since it wins the bell curve test.

That's too bad. I'd ask you to reconsider simply because if you make all your programs target the widest range, you will lose potency, but they're your subs, and I'm sure you've considered that.

Wait. Let me get this straight.

If I make all my customers happy, I will be producing inferior products?

I don't think you understand what I'm doing here. It doesn't "lose potency" to pick the phrasing that produces the most happy customers.

Yeah I probably don't. I'm thinking of the "if you try to please everybody, you end up pleasing nobody" principle. If that's not how it works with subs, then fair enough, my bad.