Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

I've had women get visibly frustrated from my 'rejecting' them (which was really just me not knowing how to seduce her properly aka "dropping the ball") but I've also had women try to help me seduce them. Maybe that's something you could add as well Shannon, persistence on the girl's part. And so long as you don't outright say " no, I'm not interested " ("safe" phrase maybe that breaks them out of the trance? This is too fun to think about) then she'll keep trying.

I actually like this idea.

One other thing if it isn't too late. I was wondering Shannon if you could make it so that the Aura also gives the woman (though probably applies to men but too a lesser degree) a kinda of "emotional high" if you will. Even though I don't like David Deangelo that much I do remember him saying something that I distinctly agree with, that "emotions are the most addictive drug there is". I think this applies doubly so for women. Since she has this "emotional high" in your presence it would make her want to be around you when she can and she would have the right amount of emotional high that is appropriate at the time (she might have a different type of emotional high when you are having sex then when you two are watching a movie on a date, if that makes sense?). I mainly mention this for the guys who might enjoy being with multiple women but might have a few that they might want to see multiple times (whether dating/or sex). Who just don't want it to be a ONS type of thing only (maybe a multiple girlfriends/FWBs type of thing). I'm thinking obviously the "emotional high" thing would have to adjust to what shes comfortable with as well not to scare her off.

Thought I would suggest that, even though I have the feeling it might compound how much clingy or stalkerish the girl might get.. Probably??? Don't know if their might be some other unpredictable consequences as well since we are dealing with influencing a person's emotions, which by their nature are unpredictable at times.

Yep. There is a cost to everything. I can run it through the models, though.

Please let us know if you add in the emotional high!

Also, is it possible to add in something so that those you are sexually attracted to and interact with will think about you frequently or a few times a day after you leave?

I don't know how I would do something like that through an aura, short of triggering an emotional addiction response. And I'm not sure how I would do that, or if it would be a good idea regardless... that's starting to get into manipulation levels I'm not really sure about.

[Shannon]

Shannon I'm thinking of doing this after WM: 1 month E2, 1 month this AOS 5.5g sub, and then 1 month AM refresher before going into SM3. Do you think I should change the order at all? And do you think that this new AOS subliminal would boost the effects of SM3 or do you think I should just cut it out since I would be only running it for a month (maybe 2 or 3 if it's amazing I guess).

Edit: do you think it would just be better to run E2 longer instead of adding in the new AOS? From the perspective of gaining the most out of SM3. What would you say would be the most efficient amount of time to dedicate to E2 would be without waiting too long?

Do you think I should change the order at all?

I don't see an issue with that order, but the order is up to you.

And do you think that this new AOS subliminal would boost the effects of SM3 or do you think I should just cut it out since I would be only running it for a month (maybe 2 or 3 if it's amazing I guess

AOSI and SM3 will interact in semi-synergystic manner, but they also have distinctly different goals. The overlap is actually relatively small. You may see a boost to one or two of the goals of SM3, but I can't be sure about that.

Edit: do you think it would just be better to run E2 longer instead of adding in the new AOS? From the perspective of gaining the most out of SM3. What would you say would be the most efficient amount of time to dedicate to E2 would be without waiting too long?

More time on E2 is never a bad thing. If I were going to choose between some time with E2, AOSI and SM3, or more time with E2 and then SM3, if my goals were to max out SM3 I think I would choose more time with SM3.

That said, I can't know exactly how or much AOSI will impact SM3 without real world testing.

[Shannon]

Also I heard there is a mistake in SM3 that is reducing the effect are you planning on fixing that soon? Something Alpha360 said in this thread: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7091-page-24.html. If there is really a mistake I will hold out then on SM3 probably and maybe run E2 for a longer period and wait for 6g or something.

There is no mistake. There is a section of script that is designed correctly to achieve a goal, which has the effect of slightly reducing the effect of the whole in achieving it's goal. Slightly. You guys are so melodramatic and interpretive sometimes.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon,

When do you think you are going to be able to build for me a sub to get the ability to visualize, imagine & fantasize anything in crystal clear detail at will ? Any dates or approx ?

Ray, I have a really full plate. At least four things that are vastly more important than that - 6G dev, pain relief, MHS and sleep aid. I can't know how long they'll take to build, or if your program would take priority when I am done. So I appreciate the persistence, but you have to understand my point of view also.

[Shannon]

Shannon please keep aosi as simple as possible, there's no need for emotional high, when this sub is all about irresistible sex appeal. I want this to work thoroughly, not end up being let down.

I am planning to keep AOSI true to it's design goals. Whatever woks best. Nobody wants you to be let down, I assure you.

[Shannon]

Questions for Shannon

1. You mentioned that AOS will help you attract whoever you find attractive. So will the subs help us attract those women we find desirable if we have fetishes? For example for us guys that only date blondes, or redheads, or women from a certain ethnicity.

Will you put something in the script to help us do that easier and get us mostly those women? For example "I easily attract women of the ethnic background I am attracted to."

Here's a direct quote from the current script:

"beautiful people of the gender I find sexually attractive, whom I also find sexually attractive"

That is the target goal. We don't need to get more specific than that.

2. Will BASE be rebuilt in 5.5g or 6g if at all? And if it will be rebuilt could you please include the overcome procrastination sub in it if you do rebuild it? This is something that should have been already included in my opinion. I still find myself procrastinating a lot even with BASE. I am motivated but procrastinating and maybe because BASE has certainly steered me in the right direction (the ultra motivation module) but by having overcome procrastination in the sub that would only make my results (and everyone's results) be achievable faster. It certainly wouldn't hurt

I have plans to eventually I will upgrade it, likely to 6G.

OP scripting is already in BASE 2.x. Procrastination is resistance to action based in fear. The issue isn't the OP scripting, it's the EHPRA scripting. V1 is not as effective at dealing with fears as V2 is. The next version will be much more advanced in dealing with fears, and include EHPRA 2+ (whatever is current at the time). That is a ways off yet though.

[Shannon]

Please let us know if you add in the emotional high!

Also, is it possible to add in something so that those you are sexually attracted to and interact with will think about you frequently or a few times a day after you leave?

Yeah, do let us know if you put it in.

Also Max, that was kinda of what I'm getting at. When I see women on this "emotional high" its like they can't get enough of the guy. They are constantly texting him, want to be around him, and am thinking about him constantly throughout the day. I think if you can , through the aura, to get the woman to feel the right combination and level of emotions in this emotional high in your presence she will naturally be addicted to it in a way and want to be in your presence very often. As I said though this could cause problems with the woman becoming obsessive, clingy, or stalkerish if she lacks self control. This goes especially for when you say "no" to her and she doesn't know how to handle it but then again thats more of her problem then your own. I think Lowe said it best. If you want to be really sexually attractive (like 20 out of 10 attractive) you have to take both the pros and the cons that come with it.

Shannon please keep aosi as simple as possible, there's no need for emotional high, when this sub is all about irresistible sex appeal. I want this to work thoroughly, not end up being let down.

I don't know why this would be a problem, unless the models show otherwise. This just guarantees for those that don't just want ONS but still want just mainly a sexual relationship (FWBs,etc) they can have the girl coming back multiple times instead of "well, slept with that hot guy, mission accomplish. Time to move on to something else". There are those times when a guy finds a girl he sleeps with that he actually wants to keep as one of his multiple FWBs/Girlfriends you could say.

I completely agree with you. If I got around to running this sub, I'd want it to be a full no holds barred experience of being sexually irresistible. I understand that there may be "negatives" like some girls acting stalkerish or not letting go, but that's fine. The way I see it, people always have problems, but people have different kinds and qualities of problems. "Oh no, this girl won't leave me alone." "Oh no, I don't know if I want to go to Hawaii or Italy for vacation". Those are problems I'd be glad to have to replace the ones I have now!

So Shannon, you gave us a warning that we may become too sexually attractive. I'd love to see that happen honestly. So I respectfully challenge you to make it just that good. Let's see some users post here about how annoyed they are about not being able to escape girls (or whatever gender the user is sexually attracted to) pounding down their door (or at least as close to that as possible)

I have already had to reject the five best script options so far because they were apparently TOO effective. I don't always know specifically what the warning responses from the models indicate specifically, especially in VLT pings, but I do know that I have a healthy respect for the accuracy of the models. I don't have any desire to cross that line.

So the key is balancing it on the edge of "too good" so that we achieve maximum effect, without going into the danger zone.

I've long since challenged myself to the same thing.

[Shannon]

So will this sub change my personality as well and in how I socialise, humour, flirting, body language, vibe, etc

Does this sub do it in a way that leaves it all up to my subconscious to decide how and what apart of my being it changes? So I change on all levels and in always possible for me to experience what this sub is intended to bring about.

Also, seeing as the subconscious is mega times powerful then the conscious mind, how do implement the script for this sub, all for the subconscious or do you direct to the conscious mind aswell?

I am thinking of active manifestation and passive manifestation in terms of conscious manifestation and subconscious manifestation.

The sub is not designed to change your personality. It will help you improve yourself in all the right ways to enable the generation of, projection of and enjoyment of the intended aura.

Self confidence, self worth, self love, self validation, self respect, all the internal support.

How that affects the rest, and how the energy you're absorbing affects the rest, that is up to how you respond to it.

Does this sub do it in a way that leaves it all up to my subconscious to decide how and what apart of my being it changes? So I change on all levels and in always possible for me to experience what this sub is intended to bring about.

No, it significantly involves your conscious mind as well. But the primary goal of the sub is not to change you, but to source and project a specific energy. The changes it is aimed at making are to support you in achieving and enjoying the results thereof.

I am thinking of active manifestation and passive manifestation in terms of conscious manifestation and subconscious manifestation.

The subconscious mind is primarily responsible for manifestation. Active in this sense does not mean conscious or subconscious. The conscious is involved, but only to the degree that such involvement is helpful and useful. It can potentially derail the manifestation if it is too involved.

[Shannon]

Talking of upgrades any chance of a upgraded ASC Shannon, 5.5G with all the trimmings ect?

6G only.

[Womanizer]

Approximately when do you plan on releasing the new DAOSI? June , july?

[DarthXedonias]

Please let us know if you add in the emotional high!

Also, is it possible to add in something so that those you are sexually attracted to and interact with will think about you frequently or a few times a day after you leave?

Yeah, do let us know if you put it in.

Also Max, that was kinda of what I'm getting at. When I see women on this "emotional high" its like they can't get enough of the guy. They are constantly texting him, want to be around him, and am thinking about him constantly throughout the day. I think if you can , through the aura, to get the woman to feel the right combination and level of emotions in this emotional high in your presence she will naturally be addicted to it in a way and want to be in your presence very often. As I said though this could cause problems with the woman becoming obsessive, clingy, or stalkerish if she lacks self control. This goes especially for when you say "no" to her and she doesn't know how to handle it but then again thats more of her problem then your own. I think Lowe said it best. If you want to be really sexually attractive (like 20 out of 10 attractive) you have to take both the pros and the cons that come with it.

Shannon please keep aosi as simple as possible, there's no need for emotional high, when this sub is all about irresistible sex appeal. I want this to work thoroughly, not end up being let down.

I don't know why this would be a problem, unless the models show otherwise. This just guarantees for those that don't just want ONS but still want just mainly a sexual relationship (FWBs,etc) they can have the girl coming back multiple times instead of "well, slept with that hot guy, mission accomplish. Time to move on to something else". There are those times when a guy finds a girl he sleeps with that he actually wants to keep as one of his multiple FWBs/Girlfriends you could say.

I completely agree with you. If I got around to running this sub, I'd want it to be a full no holds barred experience of being sexually irresistible. I understand that there may be "negatives" like some girls acting stalkerish or not letting go, but that's fine. The way I see it, people always have problems, but people have different kinds and qualities of problems. "Oh no, this girl won't leave me alone." "Oh no, I don't know if I want to go to Hawaii or Italy for vacation". Those are problems I'd be glad to have to replace the ones I have now!

So Shannon, you gave us a warning that we may become too sexually attractive. I'd love to see that happen honestly. So I respectfully challenge you to make it just that good. Let's see some users post here about how annoyed they are about not being able to escape girls (or whatever gender the user is sexually attracted to) pounding down their door (or at least as close to that as possible)

I have already had to reject the five best script options so far because they were apparently TOO effective. I don't always know specifically what the warning responses from the models indicate specifically, especially in VLT pings, but I do know that I have a healthy respect for the accuracy of the models. I don't have any desire to cross that line.

So the key is balancing it on the edge of "too good" so that we achieve maximum effect, without going into the danger zone.

I've long since challenged myself to the same thing.

I actually laughed at this. I got a flashback to that old movie "Love potion #9" which proved there can be real problems associated with being "too good" at attracting the opposite sex.

[Shannon]

Approximately when do you plan on releasing the new DAOSI? June , july?

I plan on releasing it in a few days or less.

I just had a few new things come to mind for consideration for addition while I was at lunch, so I'm looking into those right now. I also have to see whether the script is more effective with or without the naturalizer. Then once I have a very high quality response from the models, it's build time.

[SargeMaximus]

This is a really popular topic. I don't remember seeing this much byzz about anything else on this site.

As for the "male-centric" posts, well, I am bi myself, but I was of course detailing the effect Id like to have on females.

I don't think manipulation is a danger since even having a slight emotional effect could, under that paradigm, be considered manipulation.

Heck, smiling at someone could be seen as manipulation. It's not the tool but how you use it.

[Shannon]

Please let us know if you add in the emotional high!

Also, is it possible to add in something so that those you are sexually attracted to and interact with will think about you frequently or a few times a day after you leave?

Yeah, do let us know if you put it in.

Also Max, that was kinda of what I'm getting at. When I see women on this "emotional high" its like they can't get enough of the guy. They are constantly texting him, want to be around him, and am thinking about him constantly throughout the day. I think if you can , through the aura, to get the woman to feel the right combination and level of emotions in this emotional high in your presence she will naturally be addicted to it in a way and want to be in your presence very often. As I said though this could cause problems with the woman becoming obsessive, clingy, or stalkerish if she lacks self control. This goes especially for when you say "no" to her and she doesn't know how to handle it but then again thats more of her problem then your own. I think Lowe said it best. If you want to be really sexually attractive (like 20 out of 10 attractive) you have to take both the pros and the cons that come with it.

Shannon please keep aosi as simple as possible, there's no need for emotional high, when this sub is all about irresistible sex appeal. I want this to work thoroughly, not end up being let down.

I don't know why this would be a problem, unless the models show otherwise. This just guarantees for those that don't just want ONS but still want just mainly a sexual relationship (FWBs,etc) they can have the girl coming back multiple times instead of "well, slept with that hot guy, mission accomplish. Time to move on to something else". There are those times when a guy finds a girl he sleeps with that he actually wants to keep as one of his multiple FWBs/Girlfriends you could say.

I completely agree with you. If I got around to running this sub, I'd want it to be a full no holds barred experience of being sexually irresistible. I understand that there may be "negatives" like some girls acting stalkerish or not letting go, but that's fine. The way I see it, people always have problems, but people have different kinds and qualities of problems. "Oh no, this girl won't leave me alone." "Oh no, I don't know if I want to go to Hawaii or Italy for vacation". Those are problems I'd be glad to have to replace the ones I have now!

So Shannon, you gave us a warning that we may become too sexually attractive. I'd love to see that happen honestly. So I respectfully challenge you to make it just that good. Let's see some users post here about how annoyed they are about not being able to escape girls (or whatever gender the user is sexually attracted to) pounding down their door (or at least as close to that as possible)

I have already had to reject the five best script options so far because they were apparently TOO effective. I don't always know specifically what the warning responses from the models indicate specifically, especially in VLT pings, but I do know that I have a healthy respect for the accuracy of the models. I don't have any desire to cross that line.

So the key is balancing it on the edge of "too good" so that we achieve maximum effect, without going into the danger zone.

I've long since challenged myself to the same thing.

I actually laughed at this. I got a flashback to that old movie "Love potion #9" which proved there can be real problems associated with being "too good" at attracting the opposite sex.

Yes, really disappointing, too, because some of the script options I had to reject were positively off the chain. Which is, I guess, why they triggered the warnings. Real let down, but safety first.