Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Shannon, do visual subliminals such as flashing messages work?

Any subliminal, be it visual, olfactory, tactile, auditory, what have you, will influence the mind if it is presented correctly, with either enough repetition or enough emotional impact, and it is directed correctly.

Visual subliminals can work, if you get enough repetitions at the right speed and the right phrasing is used. They are not as effective as auditory subs, simply because they can both be de-subliminalized and because you cannot get as complex with wording or as much exposure, but they can work.

Thanks.
So, if I'm using BASE and I have a sub-goal that's related and very difficult to achieve, but important to me personally, can I use affirmations or visualization to help in addition to the sub?

You can, but if they conflict with BASE, you will have either BASE override them, or they may cause unexpected conflicts and results if the script conflicts because you don't know fully how to safely word the script of your affirmations.

[Shannon]

TLAM is more like a cross between manifesting, working for it and keeping it. Actually getting a million does NOT necessarily mean creating value, this is a whole other subject. BAMM seems to be directed in that direction as well. BAMM seems like a program that would result in a long term wealth and the ability to create that wealth level from scratch if need be in the future.

Now the title I suggested "Manifest your 100k/million in the shortest time possible" would be a manifestation program solely and thus similar to AYP series. BAMM would be AM/SM/WM, TLAM would be AOS/BIABW/ASC.

I actually deeply doubt that such a program would even work, however I am curious if Shannon has considered making something like it and if yes then when? Is 6g needed for this?

I have considered it, and my explanation is a couple posts back. 6G could work, but again... manipulating and controlling units of energy per amount of time is the limiter, 6G or not.

[Shannon]

Shannon after you finish job B use it to make A sub to manifest your perfect vehicle

I had that in mind.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon, with regards to manifestation, what happens when you try to manifest different kinds of relationships with specific people?

Manifesting a relationship with a specific person interferes with that persons life and freedoms without their knowledge or consent. It is a BIG no-no for that reason. The voice of experience here, what comes around goes around, and it can be very nasty and expensive to balance that sort of thing.

[Shannon]

Shannon, have you heard about affORmations ? It's from the book called " The Book Of Afformations ". In the book, he says " Human thought is the process of asking & answering questions ".
An afformation is taking an affirmations " I am rich " and shifting it into a WHY question " Why am I so rich ? "? This allows the subconscious mind to do what it does best which is to find an answers to that question. It forms new beliefs. I believe the subconscious answers the questions by creating new circumstances according to the question & by forming new beliefs such as I am rich because I make alot of money. I think it's brilliant. If it forms new beliefs is going to make our belief system very positive. An affirmation would only form one belief ( I am rich ) while an afFORmation would form several " Why am I so rich ? - Because I am amazing, I am wonderful, I make alot of money, etc...

I'd love to try a subliminal with questions in there because of it's potentially to be highly effective. Is it something you are ever going to try ? Even just once ?

I am familiar with and aware of afformations. Afformations would already be my method of choice if they were superior to what I am doing. Somewhere on the forums, I explained more specifically, long ago, why I don't use them. Suffice it to say that they are not as good as my current methodology.

[Shannon]

Shannon, have you heard about affORmations ? It's from the book called " The Book Of Afformations ". In the book, he says " Human thought is the process of asking & answering questions ".
An afformation is taking an affirmations " I am rich " and shifting it into a WHY question " Why am I so rich ? "? This allows the subconscious mind to do what it does best which is to find an answers to that question. It forms new beliefs. I believe the subconscious answers the questions by creating new circumstances according to the question & by forming new beliefs such as I am rich because I make alot of money. I think it's brilliant. If it forms new beliefs is going to make our belief system very positive. An affirmation would only form one belief ( I am rich ) while an afFORmation would form several " Why am I so rich ? - Because I am amazing, I am wonderful, I make alot of money, etc...

I'd love to try a subliminal with questions in there because of it's potentially to be highly effective. Is it something you are ever going to try ? Even just once ?

I've actually tried those question based statements. And by that i mean i literally recorded my voice for about 5 minutes saying different statements and looped it while i read and did other activities.

It appeared to work for the first few weeks as it did shift my beliefs a bit. My goals were related to relationships and money at the time, and I did get and enhance what i already had going. But the long term use sort of dropped off after about 3 weeks. The effect wasn't there and i stopped listening.

Who knows what the effect is long term listening to that in 5G, ultra sonic, looped every night while you sleep. That would be very interesting to see. While i listened to my voice saying the statements, though, I did sort of feel my brain working to adjust to the statements. And that technology must be like 2G or 1G for Shannon's subs lol 1 or 2 words per second. What technology does that equate to? (let's disregard that my voice wasn't masked behind ocean waves).

It's the equivalent of 0G. That's what I was doing back in highschool.

[Life]

How about a manifestation program for money. Not a big 12 stage BAMM, but a 1 stage "Manifest your 100k or million dollars/euros in the shortest time possible". When will something like that be available?

Long time ago, I learned that the key to manifesting something is putting out enough energy into the world for it to manifest.

Manifesting something therefore depends on how much energy something takes to manifest.

Money is a form of energy. It is the energy that represents the value that it is considered worth exchanging for. Therefore, to manifest $1,000,000, you must express that much energy in a focused form in order to have that come back to you.

The amount of energy that represents is roughly what it would take for the average person to earn it working at a job that pays an average wage. This is true because the conglomerate understanding of the value of money is what we as a group subconsciously set it's value to as an average.

So therefore, to manifest $1 million dollars with no "work", you must generate and focus and direct and control the same amount of energy it would take to earn it in some way.

Given that, it is no longer as easy as it once sounded. Even if you call upon an external energy source. And here's why.

The energy can be taken from something other than yourself - if it was only self powered, manifesting $1 mil would take the average properly trained practitioner of active manifestation 1-2 decades, most likely, and be more than a lifetime for anyone else - but it must still be directed, focused and controlled.

Directing, focusing and controlling energy requires... energy! And for that, you can't take the energy from something else. It must be personal energy.

Now this isn't so big a deal, until you consider that this must be done for as long as the energy is being sent out. And, it must be true that you have the energy to will the energy being directed to it's goal. The more energy you are directing per unit of time, the more energy is required to do so; it's like controlling a garden hose versus a fire hose.

Now realize that given this limit, you are likely - even with the aid of a subliminal, and even extracting the primary energy from an external source - to have to send and direct this for months (or more likely years) at a time.

Do YOU know anyone who can expend that amount of personal energy 24/7 for that long? I don't. And I know some very interesting people!

So the only way to accomplish such a goal is in timed pulses. But timed pulses require... time! At least two or three times a much time, because you must rest.

This is why programs like BAMM do not rely solely on manifestation. They also expect to take 2 to 8 years to accomplish their goals. It's because the only alternative is to use a massive number of people all focusing on the same goal at the same time, with a similar level of intensity, focus, direction and energy.

There are two schools of thought on how that works. One says it's geometric; 1 person = 1 energy unit; 2 people = 2 eus, 3 people = 4 eus, 4 people = 8 eus, 5 people = 16 eus, etc.

Then there are those who say that it is only geometric on a perfect world, and that the more people you involve, the more variables you involve, and it ends up being closer to a linear progression of something like 0.5 to 1 eu per person.

I don't know definitively which one is right. I'd say both probably are; the former for properly trained and cooperative adepts, and the latter for trying to do the same with people who aren't trained.

What I can say is that in either case, it would require a LOT of people. Most likely hundreds, thousands or even tens of thousands at the same time, all focusing on exactly the same goal, at the same time, in the same way, with the same degree of dedication, etc.

So that means it's more likely to work if I create a sub to do an exo/endo manifestation, where the endo is manifesting for yourself, and the exo is manifesting for everyone else also doing the sub.

That could be an interesting experiment.

When you write posts like this it makes me confident in this technology

[Shannon]

How about a manifestation program for money. Not a big 12 stage BAMM, but a 1 stage "Manifest your 100k or million dollars/euros in the shortest time possible". When will something like that be available?

Long time ago, I learned that the key to manifesting something is putting out enough energy into the world for it to manifest.

Manifesting something therefore depends on how much energy something takes to manifest.

Money is a form of energy. It is the energy that represents the value that it is considered worth exchanging for. Therefore, to manifest $1,000,000, you must express that much energy in a focused form in order to have that come back to you.

The amount of energy that represents is roughly what it would take for the average person to earn it working at a job that pays an average wage. This is true because the conglomerate understanding of the value of money is what we as a group subconsciously set it's value to as an average.

So therefore, to manifest $1 million dollars with no "work", you must generate and focus and direct and control the same amount of energy it would take to earn it in some way.

Given that, it is no longer as easy as it once sounded. Even if you call upon an external energy source. And here's why.

The energy can be taken from something other than yourself - if it was only self powered, manifesting $1 mil would take the average properly trained practitioner of active manifestation 1-2 decades, most likely, and be more than a lifetime for anyone else - but it must still be directed, focused and controlled.

Directing, focusing and controlling energy requires... energy! And for that, you can't take the energy from something else. It must be personal energy.

Now this isn't so big a deal, until you consider that this must be done for as long as the energy is being sent out. And, it must be true that you have the energy to will the energy being directed to it's goal. The more energy you are directing per unit of time, the more energy is required to do so; it's like controlling a garden hose versus a fire hose.

Now realize that given this limit, you are likely - even with the aid of a subliminal, and even extracting the primary energy from an external source - to have to send and direct this for months (or more likely years) at a time.

Do YOU know anyone who can expend that amount of personal energy 24/7 for that long? I don't. And I know some very interesting people!

So the only way to accomplish such a goal is in timed pulses. But timed pulses require... time! At least two or three times a much time, because you must rest.

This is why programs like BAMM do not rely solely on manifestation. They also expect to take 2 to 8 years to accomplish their goals. It's because the only alternative is to use a massive number of people all focusing on the same goal at the same time, with a similar level of intensity, focus, direction and energy.

There are two schools of thought on how that works. One says it's geometric; 1 person = 1 energy unit; 2 people = 2 eus, 3 people = 4 eus, 4 people = 8 eus, 5 people = 16 eus, etc.

Then there are those who say that it is only geometric on a perfect world, and that the more people you involve, the more variables you involve, and it ends up being closer to a linear progression of something like 0.5 to 1 eu per person.

I don't know definitively which one is right. I'd say both probably are; the former for properly trained and cooperative adepts, and the latter for trying to do the same with people who aren't trained.

What I can say is that in either case, it would require a LOT of people. Most likely hundreds, thousands or even tens of thousands at the same time, all focusing on exactly the same goal, at the same time, in the same way, with the same degree of dedication, etc.

So that means it's more likely to work if I create a sub to do an exo/endo manifestation, where the endo is manifesting for yourself, and the exo is manifesting for everyone else also doing the sub.

That could be an interesting experiment.

When you write posts like this it makes me confident in this technology

It's just a matter of understanding the system in which you are working, and how it works. Most people don't.

[Lowe]

Shannon, with active manifestation and the latest tech can we hope for the new MYP subliminals to work faster than it does now? 2-4 months and possibly up to 8 months listening time for an MYP subliminal to work seems too long, and not everyone ended up seeing results (so far).

[sushi521]

if it was only self powered, manifesting $1 mil would take the average properly trained practitioner of active manifestation 1-2 decades, most likely, and be more than a lifetime for anyone else - but it must still be directed, focused and controlled.

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That long? But I read that some lottery winners used visualization and intention techniques to win lottery in about 6 months.

[maxx55]

Hey Shannon, with regards to manifestation, what happens when you try to manifest different kinds of relationships with specific people?

Manifesting a relationship with a specific person interferes with that persons life and freedoms without their knowledge or consent. It is a BIG no-no for that reason. The voice of experience here, what comes around goes around, and it can be very nasty and expensive to balance that sort of thing.

Gotcha. Well what if you try to manifest someone that looks like someone you know, but has noticeably different features? Would that also be a no-no or is it fine since the person you know would never actually look exactly like that?

[dissonance]

if it was only self powered, manifesting $1 mil would take the average properly trained practitioner of active manifestation 1-2 decades, most likely, and be more than a lifetime for anyone else - but it must still be directed, focused and controlled.

That long? But I read that some lottery winners used visualization and intention techniques to win lottery in about 6 months.
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source?

[Nox]

if it was only self powered, manifesting $1 mil would take the average properly trained practitioner of active manifestation 1-2 decades, most likely, and be more than a lifetime for anyone else - but it must still be directed, focused and controlled.

That long? But I read that some lottery winners used visualization and intention techniques to win lottery in about 6 months.
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I'm sure a lot of winners were also praying to some type of god or asking for help from numerous sources. Also basing it on astrology and lucky numbers. Maybe only wearing red when buying a ticket, or always eating noodles that day. Correlation isn't causation blahblahblah

[sushi521]

if it was only self powered, manifesting $1 mil would take the average properly trained practitioner of active manifestation 1-2 decades, most likely, and be more than a lifetime for anyone else - but it must still be directed, focused and controlled.

That long? But I read that some lottery winners used visualization and intention techniques to win lottery in about 6 months.

source?
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http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Lottery-At...520&sr=1-1

The author himself manifested $50,000 in six months, because that's the number he selected. Then he won another 100k or something. Then there's interviews with others who won millions. The techniques are basically visualization and affirmations.