Shannon's Journal Discussion, Volume 7

[UniversalMan]

@Shannon in need of an advice

I have listened to the last LTU, run all stages, and now I have been listening stage 7  1.5 months and simply got bored ,I do not feel any much different, or probably the naturalizer made it that way, at times it was hardcore especially physically, and I have also lost weight both in fat and muscle because of been sick a couple of times (which is unusual for me, I rarely get sick), I am not saying that haves anything to do with LTU, but is weird, also i have absolutely no motivation for anything, maybe it is this tiredness, and everything what LTU is trying to achive.

Originaly after LTU I planed to listen ME ,but in the last couple of days that changed and want to switch to UH....

Any thoughts for that sudden change?

Also, how much pause should I take after LTU, and should I force myself to run LTU st.7 0.5 months more to be 2 months round?

That makes me wonder if you're taking enough days off.  The nice thing about the multi-stage sets is, if you hit boredom with Stage 7, you can always just run through the previous stages again.  Having no motivation tells me that you have some part of you resisting out of fear, because it's on the verge of something that it doesn't want to do being about all that's left for it to do, so it's trying to hide by killing all motivation.  That also says to me that you should probably run through the first six stages again if you're going to continue with LTU.  Switching to UH may be a way of escaping, but UH isn't going to go easier on your subconscious.  On the contrary, it's going to go significantly harder, and be much less easy to escape from.  So switching isn't an effective means of escape, but it can't hurt to switch.

You don't have to force another half month run if you've hit boredom/null motivation.  That means you need a change.  I suggest you take a couple weeks off completely to let it bloom and then assess what you want to do next.

My listening schedule haves been by the book (as written in the product description)

Later yesterday I also sensed depression (like why do I even egsist) and again I feel physically broken, maybe the urge to switch to UH is guided in order to deal with what my subconscious is escaping from, at least that is what I thought, also the change, definitely I need change, I can always re run LTU in some later time (got a few subliminals on my list to do before re running LTU)

Shannon, I do not know if I will manage to go to a break of a few weeks, that could be possible only if I listen to DRS, cause this period of the year hits me hard (people hit me hard with their not so good energies), so I will try to take 1 week off of subliminals and than i will start or UH, or DRS for a week and after that get on UH, at least that is my plan if you do not have other suggestions...

[FluffyBunny]

Hey @Shannon

Took a couple month break from Sub i used to run the old versions of DMSI from v2 to v3s few years back. recently got the urge to run the most current version v3.5 was doing some reading around the forum and was wondering what is it about 3.5v that it is turned off in the shop? Should i run the v3.5 or the one version before it?
Thanks

DMSI v3.5 was taken down for both a lack of positive feedback in the beginning, and because I don't want people buying it before I release a different version.  It turns out that 3.5 works just fine as long as you use it properly, but a new version (Version 4.0) is being queued up for release, probably in January.  If you have 3.5, run that.

Ok Thanks, I will try the v3.5 as I don't have much fears regarding women and I do get laid so it might actually work well for me too.
I just want to use it to spice up things.
Curious do we get a final upgrade to version 4?

[Zane]

@Shannon Bro I know it’s been so long but I am still waiting for Nofap and No Porn subliminal

[ichigo]

Hey @Shannon

Took a couple month break from Sub i used to run the old versions of DMSI from v2 to v3s few years back. recently got the urge to run the most current version v3.5 was doing some reading around the forum and was wondering what is it about 3.5v that it is turned off in the shop? Should i run the v3.5 or the one version before it?
Thanks

DMSI v3.5 was taken down for both a lack of positive feedback in the beginning, and because I don't want people buying it before I release a different version.  It turns out that 3.5 works just fine as long as you use it properly, but a new version (Version 4.0) is being queued up for release, probably in January.  If you have 3.5, run that.

Woo, so excited for this! 3.5 is a beast as is!

I’ve been running it with occasional use of SARM and it’s skyrocketed results, I think due to the hormone optimisations in SARM.

When you release DMSI 4.0 would you consider putting hormone optimisation for maximum sexual arousal / attractiveness in there too? It makes a pretty significant difference to the results in my experience. I assume it’s increasing testosterone and then providing all the sexual attraction benefits that being higher in testosterone generally provide.

[KingDavid93]

Hey @Shannon

Took a couple month break from Sub i used to run the old versions of DMSI from v2 to v3s few years back. recently got the urge to run the most current version v3.5 was doing some reading around the forum and was wondering what is it about 3.5v that it is turned off in the shop? Should i run the v3.5 or the one version before it?
Thanks

DMSI v3.5 was taken down for both a lack of positive feedback in the beginning, and because I don't want people buying it before I release a different version.  It turns out that 3.5 works just fine as long as you use it properly, but a new version (Version 4.0) is being queued up for release, probably in January.  If you have 3.5, run that.

Hi @Shannon 

I currently started running 3.5 again as well- as warmup for the upcoming version 

Can you disclose what the proper way of running it is?

[Shannon]

That makes me wonder if you're taking enough days off.  The nice thing about the multi-stage sets is, if you hit boredom with Stage 7, you can always just run through the previous stages again.  Having no motivation tells me that you have some part of you resisting out of fear, because it's on the verge of something that it doesn't want to do being about all that's left for it to do, so it's trying to hide by killing all motivation.  That also says to me that you should probably run through the first six stages again if you're going to continue with LTU.  Switching to UH may be a way of escaping, but UH isn't going to go easier on your subconscious.  On the contrary, it's going to go significantly harder, and be much less easy to escape from.  So switching isn't an effective means of escape, but it can't hurt to switch.

You don't have to force another half month run if you've hit boredom/null motivation.  That means you need a change.  I suggest you take a couple weeks off completely to let it bloom and then assess what you want to do next.

My listening schedule haves been by the book (as written in the product description)

Later yesterday I also sensed depression (like why do I even egsist) and again I feel physically broken, maybe the urge to switch to UH is guided in order to deal with what my subconscious is escaping from, at least that is what I thought, also the change, definitely I need change, I can always re run LTU in some later time (got a few subliminals on my list to do before re running LTU)

Shannon, I do not know if I will manage to go to a break of a few weeks, that could be possible only if I listen to DRS, cause this period of the year hits me hard (people hit me hard with their not so good energies), so I will try to take 1 week off of subliminals and than i will start or UH, or DRS for a week and after that get on UH, at least that is my plan if you do not have other suggestions...

DRS isn't trying to program your mind, so it's alright to use.

[Shannon]

DMSI v3.5 was taken down for both a lack of positive feedback in the beginning, and because I don't want people buying it before I release a different version.  It turns out that 3.5 works just fine as long as you use it properly, but a new version (Version 4.0) is being queued up for release, probably in January.  If you have 3.5, run that.

Ok Thanks, I will try the v3.5 as I don't have much fears regarding women and I do get laid so it might actually work well for me too.
I just want to use it to spice up things.
Curious do we get a final upgrade to version 4?

DMSI v3.5 was the final free upgrade.  DMSI v4 is most likely going to be a premium title, and run $1,500 per copy with no refund option.  The time for free upgrades has passed.

[Shannon]

@Shannon  Bro I know it’s been so long but I am still waiting for Nofap and No Porn subliminal

That's because I have yet to find a way to reliably override the most powerful instinctual drive a human has.  Instead, I'll wait until I am confident it will work.

[Shannon]

DMSI v3.5 was taken down for both a lack of positive feedback in the beginning, and because I don't want people buying it before I release a different version.  It turns out that 3.5 works just fine as long as you use it properly, but a new version (Version 4.0) is being queued up for release, probably in January.  If you have 3.5, run that.

Woo, so excited for this! 3.5 is a beast as is!

I’ve been running it with occasional use of SARM and it’s skyrocketed results, I think due to the hormone optimisations in SARM.

When you release DMSI 4.0 would you consider putting hormone optimisation for maximum sexual arousal / attractiveness in there too? It makes a pretty significant difference to the results in my experience. I assume it’s increasing testosterone and then providing all the sexual attraction benefits that being higher in testosterone generally provide.

DMSI v4.0 is built and has been in testing for some time now.  I will not be building it again without at least six zeroes after the first number and no decimal point.  It underwent testing to determine whether it would be trashed or released because I am done building DMSI.  The only way it will ever see another version is possibly if it's built in 6G.  And that's not a guarantee.

That said, let's see how things play out when it's released.

And it already influences hormones and pheromones, by the way.  Exactly how is a secret.

[Shannon]

DMSI v3.5 was taken down for both a lack of positive feedback in the beginning, and because I don't want people buying it before I release a different version.  It turns out that 3.5 works just fine as long as you use it properly, but a new version (Version 4.0) is being queued up for release, probably in January.  If you have 3.5, run that.

Hi @Shannon 

I currently started running 3.5 again as well- as warmup for the upcoming version 

Can you disclose what the proper way of running it is?

Well for one, "warming up" with 3.5 isn't it.  You don't want to run 3.5 for at least a month before 4.0 comes out, so you don't get false results or cross contamination from doing so. 

For two, it's a premium, so it'll be a relatively light usage pattern required.  But specifics will wait for publication.

[UniversalMan]

My listening schedule haves been by the book (as written in the product description)

Later yesterday I also sensed depression (like why do I even egsist) and again I feel physically broken, maybe the urge to switch to UH is guided in order to deal with what my subconscious is escaping from, at least that is what I thought, also the change, definitely I need change, I can always re run LTU in some later time (got a few subliminals on my list to do before re running LTU)

Shannon, I do not know if I will manage to go to a break of a few weeks, that could be possible only if I listen to DRS, cause this period of the year hits me hard (people hit me hard with their not so good energies), so I will try to take 1 week off of subliminals and than i will start or UH, or DRS for a week and after that get on UH, at least that is my plan if you do not have other suggestions...

DRS isn't trying to program your mind, so it's alright to use.

Great, thank you for your time Shannon!

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon 

I currently started running 3.5 again as well- as warmup for the upcoming version 

Can you disclose what the proper way of running it is?

Well for one, "warming up" with 3.5 isn't it.  You don't want to run 3.5 for at least a month before 4.0 comes out, so you don't get false results or cross contamination from doing so. 

For two, it's a premium, so it'll be a relatively light usage pattern required.  But specifics will wait for publication.

Ok understood 

Can you tell me how to properly run 3.5?

And will you send an update when we are at least a month away from the release of 4.0?

[Shannon]

Well for one, "warming up" with 3.5 isn't it.  You don't want to run 3.5 for at least a month before 4.0 comes out, so you don't get false results or cross contamination from doing so. 

For two, it's a premium, so it'll be a relatively light usage pattern required.  But specifics will wait for publication.

Ok understood 

Can you tell me how to properly run 3.5?

And will you send an update when we are at least a month away from the release of 4.0?

I cannot send you an update when we are at least a month away from release because as of now, there is something that needs to be done for me to publish the premium programs that hasn't been done, and we don't yet have a dev to do it.  I don't know how long it will take Steve to find a suitable dev.  Once we do, it is likely only a week or less from when DMSI v4 will be published.  The program has been tested and is suitable for publication, but it's not what you think it is.  Turning off the majority of the safeties (those put in to act as hand holding for those who really weren't ready for the program in the first place, which turns out to be the majority of why it hasn't seemed to work for many people so far) has revealed that without them, it is a very different beast than even I expected. 

DMSI v4 is for those who are ready and willing to take responsibility for their choice to run it, and their responses and results as a consequence of running it.  It is also for those who are ready to do what it takes to achieve what it is trying to achieve, and take the time to make those deep and sometimes profound inner changes.

It's not for those who aren't ready for what it's trying to accomplish.  For the most part, if you don't get good results from running DMSI v3.4 or 3.5, then 4.0 is going to be something you need to work on yourself for before trying to run.  Yes, given enough time and usage it is likely to work for the majority of people; but it is really making some deep and profound changes with the majority of the safeties turned off, and that's not going to happen in less than months.  I'm expecting it to require at least a 6 month run to get to full speed.  DMSI v4 is not for the impatient, or the guy or gal who wants to run it and see end results in a few weeks.  It's a huge beast of a script, and it's extremely capable and complex, and to achieve its goals it has to take you on a journey and lead you through a self transformation that is rather profound.  This requires time, because it cannot be done too fast or the progress will be thwarted by fear, which is a big part of why this amount of time is necessary to make these transformations and achieve these results.

Without the safeties that were turned off, DMSI v4 reveals to us that it was vastly over-engineered in order to achieve it's original goals in spite of all the hand holding that the safeties were trying to provide.  The result is a monstrously powerful leviathan of a program that will guide you through a self transformation the likes of which you may never have expected for the stated goals of the program, but it will get you there if you use it correctly. 

Unlike it's original form (Aura Of Sexual Irresistibility), which was just an aura projection program that modulated the aura, DMSI v4 seeks to make deep, profound transformations in you to achieve its goals.  The result is likenable to paddling a kayak vs riding the Titanic.  The kayak is light, fast, nimble and it does one thing and does it well, but the Titanic does many things, takes a long time to get ready and work up to speed, has a lot of momentum to build, but when it achieves its goals, there is a huge amount of difference that results.  It's a quick, simple, shallow and short term result (AOSI) vs a deep, profound, long lasting and transformative result (DMSI v4).  Premium programs seem to be deep, vast, transformative powerhouses of change.

Don't assume you want DMSI v4 yet.  Take some time to read the product description when it is released, and then consider your options.  There's more to consider than you understand right now, which will be made clear soon.  If you think you're willing to spend $1,500 without the option of a refund and you still want to buy DMSI v4, I suggest you wait until it's released, make sure you understand the description and then consider the options of purchase vs subscription and other options as well.  

If you decide you still want to run DMSI 3.5, this is from the (now hidden) product page:

Instructions:

Calibrate volume by setting the volume for the Ocean Surf Masked format track to a volume at which you can at least faintly still hear the lowest parts of the audio, and the highest parts are not too loud.  Favor higher volumes over lower when doing this.

Play this program 1 loop per day on, 4 days on, 1 day off.  Eventually the AutoConfig module will guide you to use this program in different ways if there is a better way to use it in your particular case.  This will be an urge to use it differently which may change the number of loops per day on, the number of days on, the number of days off, the format, the volume or some other variable.  If you get such urges, follow them.
If you do not have AutoConfig kick in to guide you during your first 5 days of using this program, then do the following to find the sweet spot of exposure for you.
If you respond better to Hybrid than Masked format, or you don't know what you respond better to:
Start with Ultrasonic Format, 2 loops per day on.  Do one ASRB2 cycle of that (4 days on, 1 day off). Increase the number of loops per day on by +1 per ASRB2 cycle until you start getting results.  The maximum loops per day you should go to is 9. 
If this lands you on a configuration that works, you'll start getting results and AutoConfig should kick in if needed.  If you get to the end of the ASRB2 cycle using 9 loops of ultrasonic, then switch to Hybrid at 1 loop per day on, and continue in the same manner, increasing the number of loops per day on by +1 per ASRB2 cycle until either you reach the end of 9 without results or you start getting results.
If you still have not achieved results at this point, move to Masked format and start over again at 1 loop per day on, and work your way up to a maximum of 9.
If you respond better to Masked than Hybrid format:
Follow the procedure listed above, but start with Masked format, then move on to Ultrasonic, then move on to Hybrid. 
So you would do Masked format starting with 1 loop per day on and increase +1 loops per day on for each ASRB2 cycle until you either get results or finish an ASRB2 cycle during which you use a maximum of 9 loops per day on.
Then you would move to Ultrasonic at 1 loop per day on, and repeat, and if you still have not gotten results, move to Hybrid format and repeat.

DO NOT use this program around, or expose this program to anyone who has or is being treated or medicated for any mental illness, condition or disorder without proper and appropriate medical and/or psychological supervision and guidance FIRST.

DO NOT use this subliminal program or allow yourself to be exposed to it if you are under 18 years of age, as it may interfere with your normal development in unexpected and or undesirable ways.  DO NOT expose anyone under 18 to this subliminal program.

DO NOT use this program AT ALL while using any other mind programming technique or program. Allow any other subliminal state shifting programming to dissipate for at least 7 (seven) days before using this experimental program. Allow altered states of awareness caused by hypnosis or NLP programming to dissipate for at least 1 day before using this experimental program. Allow a minimum of 7 days before using this experimental program after using any other subliminal from IML that is 5G or higher.

Allow yourself at least 14 days of break after using this experimental program before using any other subliminal or mind programming, as this experimental program will still be running in your head during that time and can create conflicts with other subliminals and mind programming.

For your peace of mind, we here include the SHA256Sum hashes for the program files, .zip files and the text file that contains the hashes for the files of this program.  This file is accessible when you download the program, and allows you to verify the text file and the files downloaded for mathematical certainty that there have been absolutely no changes at all from the computer on which they were created to yours.


[[email protected] Compressed]$ sha256sum *

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46b1a27635473c74d84f26746f5dff918facb7bd51e2574b8c74cf86206364d1  DMSI_v3_5_(5_8G)_Subliminal_FLAC.zip

8b5b585d1f71fe3cfd7526b698ea25deab75d7b61daf4c0b47e69f3fafb48d35  DMSI_v3_5_(5_8G)_Subliminal_MP3.zip

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[[email protected] Compressed]$ sha256sum *.txt

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[[email protected] Compressed]$

[ffaux]

Didn't you develop DMSI for those people who wanted instant results? I distinctly remember your frustration that people didn't want to do the inner work that AM6+SM/WM required leading you to focusing on DMSI. Since v3.5 is gone, and v4 is back to requiring inner work, did we end up where we started, just with a new program?

Lots of people experienced a deep inner shift with 3.x (except 3.5). Do the safeties really need to be turned off, or is that only benefiting highly resistant people? Wouldn't a 3.x version benefit the majority of people? Now that we've ended up here, wouldn't we be better off with AM7?

So many questions...