Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Catman]

Hey @Shannon, any update on X4A-1600? Listening regimen testing etc. complete now?

I would be working on the very last steps before actually publishing it right now, but instead, all of my quirples are slowly draining away as I answer this question... *wistful sigh*

Ah yes...the all too familiar resistance technique of the "Type 25: Quirples Self-Sabotage Draining Effect" to "The Quirples Module": https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid266942

[Shannon]

I ran myself until the models were not cooperating at all lat night.  Then I went to bed and started on it again today.  The models kept telling me, "Something is wrong."  No matter what I tried, no matter what I checked, how many times I looked for what was wrong.  I was starting to get pissed, and then it clicked: there was one thing I had completely forgotten to include in the product description!  So I have been working on that ever since I figured it out.

We should be down to less than an hour before liftoff.

Basically what the models showed me is that more experienced guys can handle more intensity with less exposure time, and less experienced guys need more exposure time with less intensity and a little more cool off time.  Makes sense.  Okay, so here we are on final countdown.

Hey, @Shannon! Great news it's in the final stages before release.

I thought the predictive models were about dealing with the actual program itself. Not about weighing the sales page product description as well. You learn something new every day. Makes sense about the difference in listening requirements due to the experience level of the listener. I hate the "extra time off" thing, haha. In the past, I'd tend to feel the results taper off on things during the long layoffs and would usually curtail the days off a tiny bit to mitigate that feeling. From what you've said, 6G is "NFJ" to use the vernacular, lmao...so we'll see how the situation unfolds this time around! Your comment to someone about it making you "frogwalk to the goal" amused me too, hahaha.

Furiously refreshing the page for good news then, haha.

I was thinking earlier today, after X4A-1600, seems logical to me that two of the next short-term releases could more easily be found in OF and EPHRA. OF, already existing in the guise of OGSF, could be ported seemingly simply compared to a "from scratch" design etc. Also, since OGSF seems to be a foundation of EPHRA, maybe that one could be made AFTER OF. Seems that one would require more work than OF, currently.

Both would allow foundation work for issues needed before stepping up to "bigger" programs down the line, as well.

Just two options to throw out to you to help.

I run through the models a LOT of different variables concerning the scripting, the build process and the product description.  For example, this program required about 10.5 hours just finding and choosing the right images to use.  You guys really have no idea how ridiculously specific and nit-picky I get with making these the best I can make them behind the scenes.

I was not thrilled to see more time off for the less experienced guys, but that's what came up.  I think it has to do with processing the script, and the effects the program has on you subconsciously, as well as working yourself toward being able to open up to sex more over time.  But I have run this thing and it is intense.  I had me checking to see if the AC was on last night!

Ultimately, we will find our way.

I'm probably going to do Hormone Optimizer for Drive and Energy next.  That should be a relatively fast build, and I think it'll be useful, helpful and popular for a lot of people.

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-X4A-1...-available

X4A-1600 in 6G is here!
Get your copy now at:
https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...4a-1600-6g

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Disclaimer:
X4A-1600 is designed for use by adult genetic males only.
Do not EVER expose any female to this audio!

[Catman]

The long-awaited release of X4A-1600 6G

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Get your copy here:

X4A-1600 6G
https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...4a-1600-6g

LMAO!!!!!

@Shannon chose a redhead, his actual type, as the female image. How convenient...(she's actually gorgeous though imo, so maybe it was solid modelling)

"PrEdIcTiVe MoDeLz FeR iMaGeS BrAh!!1!111"

LMAO...seriously, well done, Shannon. Going to take a look at this bad boy immediately.

Thank you for this. Truly.

[Shannon]

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Get your copy here:

X4A-1600 6G
https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...4a-1600-6g

LMAO!!!!!

@Shannon chose a redhead, his actual type, as the female image. How convenient...(she's actually gorgeous though imo, so maybe it was solid modelling)

"PrEdIcTiVe MoDeLz FeR iMaGeS BrAh!!1!111"

LMAO...seriously, well done, Shannon. Going to take a look at this bad boy immediately.

Thank you for this. Truly.

Believe it or not, I started off looking through over 2,000 images to choose the "Consideration set".  Thse that had potential.

I narrowed those down to 121.  There were White women, Black women, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Philipina, Thai, Middle Easter, Hispanic, American Indian, Norwegian and others.  All hair colors.

I didn't choose her as the final because she had red hair.  In the end it came down to a choice between a blonde and a redhead, and the models showed that the redhead was an overall better image for representing the product goals.  Ironically, my girlfriend also chose that image as the final.  It took me 6 more hours of work to settle on it too.

Believe it or not, she wasn't the most beautiful of the women I considered.  But all the other options had something wrong;  they were too dark, they were too erotic, they were posed less than optimally, they were prominently depicting the use of alcohol, background was crap, lighting was off, expression did not communicate the right thing, image too busy, etc. etc. etc.  My lessons as a pro photographer have not left me.

Now I'm going to go eat.  Enjoy.

[ichigo]

Got mine ordered, first loops tomorrow…

My first 6G - how exciting!

Also happy to see the shield removed. Lets see what this does.

I’ll report back Shannon if anything outstanding happens and/or differences from X4A-1511

[Have at ye]

I do appreciate the careful image selection for X4A-1600 as well.

Congrats on another 6G release. Gonna purchase it promptly (for scientific purposes, of course).

Cheers!

[ArmarageX]

Amazing work Shannon! Felt like i was only reading "we'd like X4A" only a few days ago
Nek Minut - X4A is out...
Great times...
Us guys primal-ly just want money and women lol....
So i guess next up.... some Money subs would be awesome...

Appreciate all your hard work!.

[Frankie]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid266143

Unfortunately, you have forever missed your opportunity to buy a copy of SARM v2.1-B.  However, at some point in the future, I will publish v3.x.  I did publish an email detailing that SARM v2.1-B was available at the beginning of last month, so you either need to subscribe to our newsletter, or you need to have our emails routed out of the Spam folder.  ;)

I have to do what I say I will do, and I told everyone in the beginning that this was never going to be made available again after it was taken down, so that's what's happening.  But there will be a v3.x published at some point most likely in the latter half of 2025.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid266907

SARM v2.1-B was originally not going to be released at all.  I released it in a limited release because I thought it was a damned shame for it to not be.  But I have reasons for why it was so restricted that I unfortunately can't get into.

(Question #1)

Maybe just a bit premature to ask since it's only March right now, are we expecting v3.x to be a candidate for one of those 6G "premium" programs by any chance?

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Further questions should be more about any "premium" programs in general.

(Question #2)

Do we still have to deal with stuff like disabling PayPal temporarily during specific day(s) of each month + re-enabling PayPal afterwards once you've finished testing + building DMSI 5.0 / SARM 3.x / X4A-2000 down the road?

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(Question #3)

DMSI 5.0 / SARM 3.x / X4A-2000 could very well be considered some of the most popular programs for obvious reasons, is it reasonable to expect all of them to be available year-round? (i.e. at the very least we could still mark the calendar while anticipating the availability during the beginning / the end of each month.)

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(Question #4)

Volume 6 was gone since November 2022, are we genuinely supposed to believe that nobody actually performed any backups at all despite the fact that customer services should be provided via specific forum threads so far?

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid257235

Ah so I was trying to delete one post and it seems I selected the wrong option and it deleted the thread, so here it is again. I'm hoping there's a way to bring it back, i've asked Steve.

Somehow we mere mortals couldn't even access Volume 7 linked above, most likely nobody but the staff are allowed to do so if I weren't mistaken.

In other words, is it really necessary for customers to save forum threads manually on our own since an thread could be gone for whatever reasons?

(Don't ask, don't tell as usual?)

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(Question #5)

Just for the sake of dodging Murphy's Law, wouldn't it be reasonable to dedicate separate sub-forum(s) for all 6G "premium" programs from now on? For instance, doing something similar to BAMM wouldn't be so bad:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Keith...#pid264664

We definitely understand that would be nothing more than an outlier, though waiting over 5 months for an answer should be somewhat better than witnessing the disappearance of an entire forum thread or something.

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Since they're expected to cost thousands of dollars a pop rather than 650 bucks, I guess it's only natural to set realistic expectations then?

[Shannon]

Amazing work Shannon! Felt like i was only reading "we'd like X4A" only a few days ago
Nek Minut - X4A is out...
Great times...
Us guys primal-ly just want money and women lol....
So i guess next up.... some Money subs would be awesome...

Appreciate all your hard work!.

I can't always have a turnaround time like that.  But in 6G... sometimes.

And thank you.

[Shannon]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid266143

Unfortunately, you have forever missed your opportunity to buy a copy of SARM v2.1-B.  However, at some point in the future, I will publish v3.x.  I did publish an email detailing that SARM v2.1-B was available at the beginning of last month, so you either need to subscribe to our newsletter, or you need to have our emails routed out of the Spam folder. 



I have to do what I say I will do, and I told everyone in the beginning that this was never going to be made available again after it was taken down, so that's what's happening.  But there will be a v3.x published at some point most likely in the latter half of 2025.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid266907

SARM v2.1-B was originally not going to be released at all.  I released it in a limited release because I thought it was a damned shame for it to not be.  But I have reasons for why it was so restricted that I unfortunately can't get into.

(Question #1)



Maybe just a bit premature to ask since it's only March right now, are we expecting v3.x to be a candidate for one of those 6G "premium" programs by any chance?

Yes.  SARM v3.1 is currently awaiting a chance to test it.

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Further questions should be more about any "premium" programs in general.



(Question #2)



Do we still have to deal with stuff like disabling PayPal temporarily during specific day(s) of each month + re-enabling PayPal afterwards once you've finished testing + building DMSI 5.0 / SARM 3.x / X4A-2000 down the road?

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Probably not.

(Question #3)



DMSI 5.0 / SARM 3.x / X4A-2000 could very well be considered some of the most popular programs for obvious reasons, is it reasonable to expect all of them to be available year-round? (i.e. at the very least we could still mark the calendar while anticipating the availability during the beginning / the end of each month.)

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I have yet to determine how that will work out.  I don't mind doing the beginning or the end of the month, and if the circumstances are right, I don't mind doing all year round.  But there are factors that may get in the way of that and I don't have those variables filled right now.

(Question #4)

Volume 6 was gone since November 2022, are we genuinely supposed to believe that nobody actually performed any backups at all despite the fact that customer services should be provided via specific forum threads so far?

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid257235

Ah so I was trying to delete one post and it seems I selected the wrong option and it deleted the thread, so here it is again. I'm hoping there's a way to bring it back, i've asked Steve.

Somehow we mere mortals couldn't even access Volume 7 linked above, most likely nobody but the staff are allowed to do so if I weren't mistaken.

In other words, is it really necessary for customers to save forum threads manually on our own since an thread could be gone for whatever reasons?

(Don't ask, don't tell as usual?)

We definite should have backups.  I'll see what I can see.

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(Question #5)

Just for the sake of dodging Murphy's Law, wouldn't it be reasonable to dedicate separate sub-forum(s) for all 6G "premium" programs from now on? For instance, doing something similar to BAMM wouldn't be so bad:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Keith...#pid264664

We definitely understand that would be nothing more than an outlier, though waiting over 5 months for an answer should be somewhat better than witnessing the disappearance of an entire forum thread or something.

That's an interesting idea.  I'll pass it to Steve.

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Since they're expected to cost thousands of dollars a pop rather than 650 bucks, I guess it's only natural to set realistic expectations then?

That would depend on what you mean by "realistic".  Your definition in this case may differ from mine.  Do expound on that, so we can clarify.

[Frosted]

Everyone, if you’re running X4A 6G (or any program really) please consider journaling! We want to revive the forum now that 6G is out and every bit helps. Not to mention the value you will bring to Shannon to help him improve his craft as well as entertainment and information to the users. Other users of the same subliminal might be inspired by your journal to create their own, and then you are able to compare notes with other users running the same program.

[4Kingdoms]

Everyone, if you’re running X4A 6G (or any program really) please consider journaling! We want to revive the forum now that 6G is out and every bit helps. Not to mention the value you will bring to Shannon to help him improve his craft as well as entertainment and information to the users. Other users of the same subliminal might be inspired by your journal to create their own, and then you are able to compare notes with other users running the same program.

As much as I agree with more journals. 

Some people have trouble expressing themselves or sharing their feelings.  This is interesting because only the administrators of this forum use their real names, everyone else uses a handle.

[ncbeareatingman]

Everyone, if you’re running X4A 6G (or any program really) please consider journaling! We want to revive the forum now that 6G is out and every bit helps. Not to mention the value you will bring to Shannon to help him improve his craft as well as entertainment and information to the users. Other users of the same subliminal might be inspired by your journal to create their own, and then you are able to compare notes with other users running the same program.

As much as I agree with more journals. 

Some people have trouble expressing themselves or sharing their feelings.  This is interesting because only the administrators of this forum use their real names, everyone else uses a handle.

 Got cha. Though, I say My Name " Keith". thats My REAL Name, in my journal or when I post in yours, Frosted, etc,,,