SH's journey with 5G AYPSL

[JackOfHearts]

We are like humans chasing Extraterrial presence

[SargeMaximus]

We are like humans chasing Extraterrial presence

Well we are humans... but what's "extraterrial presence"?

[Shannon]

sw72hw, I have to say I think you are over thinking the whole thing WAY the hell too much. When I tested this program's base, I noted that I would start doing unusual things, and that I would get feelings or thoughts that I should do X at location Y and at time Z. If I just followed along, I almost always had something important happen. If not in the moment, then something that enabled something else of interest to happen.

You don't need to analyze everything. Your dreams aren't likely going to be telling you special things, you'll get that while you're awake. Just go with the flow. When you get a feeling or thought to go somewhere, do it. Especially if it is specific as to where and when.

[sw72hw]

sw72hw, I have to say I think you are over thinking the whole thing WAY the hell too much. When I tested this program's base, I noted that I would start doing unusual things, and that I would get feelings or thoughts that I should do X at location Y and at time Z. If I just followed along, I almost always had something important happen. If not in the moment, then something that enabled something else of interest to happen.

You don't need to analyze everything. Your dreams aren't likely going to be telling you special things, you'll get that while you're awake. Just go with the flow. When you get a feeling or thought to go somewhere, do it. Especially if it is specific as to where and when.

Hi Shannon, I appreciate your post.
You're right that I analyze things too much. That has been one of my natures/tendencies. Anyway, based on what you shared about the experience you had, I found that there are only three noticeable things that the sub has changed me.

The first is that it is pushing me to eat outside as much as I can. This is good in a sense that I have more chance to meet people. It is also bad that it costs me a bit too much at this point. LOL. Sadly, my going to restaurants has not yet opened any new social interactions. It may happen soon.

The second is again with the food. I've been now thinking more about eating much balanced, and healthier, like always eating veggies and less fried food and etc. (Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty thin, even without these. In fact, I've been underweight most of the times, and am still underweight.)

The third thing I noticed is with exercise. Even since using the sub, my motivation for exercise has increased. I thought of exercising again, as I recovered from chronic fatigue, but I found that my motivation is stronger with the sub.

So far these are only differences I found. In addition, mine has not as strong as do X at location Y at time Z. Time Z is certainly not there, and locations varied, and doing X has almost always been eating out. LOL. And so far, I have to say, nothing really important or significant has yet happened.

However, I've been using the program for only about 20 days, and my exposure time has been around 11 hours only. (Not to mention that I accidentally skipped a few days.) Things may change or not.

Anyway, I again appreciate your input.

[sw72hw]

Two things I noticed today.

First, people are initiating actions more to me. What I mean by this is on the street. I encountered several people on the way to school, and all of them either say hi, or something longer. When they didn't, they would smile at me. This happened to me on a few occasions in the past, but not in the way that everybody I encountered on the street acknowledged me and initiated actions like saying hi or smiling at me.

Second, I did something that I would normally not do, which is to get involved in people's conversation and be part of it. I made it to the school early today, and when I made it to the class, there were one girl and an older woman talking. I found that their topic of discussion was something that I also have quite a bit of knowledge to share it. So I participated in the conversation, and it was really smooth. Normally it isn't that smooth, and normally I don't hijack the conversation. So this was something new.

Third, my conversation became bold or bolder. During the break, I began a conversation with the older woman, and the conversation topic turned into something about sex: about my experience of having so much sex around me (while not myself experiencing the act). So I shared how I had had caught several couples having sex in a men's shower, catching my RA having sex, and etc.... This was quite shocking as I normally don't share this, maybe I shared this with 2~3 people at max. And I never talked to a woman anything related to sex. The good thing though, the woman didn't seem to be offended and we had a good laugh. I was amazed that I had balls to carry this out, when there were many other students in the room. Keep in mind, though, I am not attracted to her, nor I wanted to necessarily steer the conversation into the talk of sex around my life. It just happened naturally.

And lastly, I feel that I am becoming Alpha. I may be wrong about this, but I noticed that I am becoming bolder, starting to be less effected by others' opinions although I still would like to be nice that has been my nature. I also feel that people respect me more, and etc..... For this, I talk to more people, and I notice that I initiate talks quite more often than in the past. And lastly, I feel that my obsession with particular women (i.e. the hot girl in the class) or my obsession with women in general is in decline. This is quite funny, as this sub isn't about being alpha. Now, I am seriously wondering what AM6 would be like, and intrigued to start once I am done with this program, or decide to finish it.

I bought Mark Manson's Model, and begun reading it. It's an interesting thing to read, and I would take some other recommendations, if there are other good reads out there.

p.s. Oh yeah, I've seen people talking about the dreams of aliens or extraterrestrial dreams. I had two of these, in one I was communicating with aliens, and in the other one, I was an alien.

[timc2011]

Hi,

I can completely relate to your experience -- my advice, man, is to ride the wave!

Here's the deal -- I started with AYPSL a couple of months ago, switching after about a month to BIATBW. Briefly, I started AYPSL (4G) as I was emerging from a very difficult period in life. I'll leave it at that. Within three weeks, I was getting asked out, no kidding. I ended up switching (alas, just before the 5G upgrade) because I felt I was "laser locked" on finding one person and somehow couldn't motivate at some level to pursue anyone lesser (if you will) than the "PSL.". Given that I just turned 45, I thought it best to broaden the scope. (Shameless pitch to Shannon -- any way to bump this up on the upgrade list??!!

I'd say you're moving in the right direction. One thing I've not seen commented on too much are the collateral benefits that accrue with the subs -- after months of job searching, I landed a new job. And my supervisor is a woman -- go figure, huh? What I'm on about is that the process involves broad changes to one's psyche that would appear to affect positively many aspects of one's life. For my own part, I feel much more like my old self, not questioning myself or seeking validation so much. This is something that goes far beyond most conceptions of confidence.

Keep at it -- it sounds like things are moving forward for you! At 45, I have to adhere to some reality principle to the effect that the interns half my age are just very friendly. I expect you can give yourself a little more breadth in terms of inference! You've likely given some thought already, but considering who might be the PSL for you in actuality might serve you. Don't feel the need to hem yourself in with details, but you might want to have a rough idea of how to receive your PSL.

All the best,
Tim

[JackOfHearts]

We are like humans chasing Extraterrial presence

Well we are humans... but what's "extraterrial presence"?

woman
I should have said : We are like man chasing Extraterrestrial presence.

[SargeMaximus]

We are like humans chasing Extraterrial presence

Well we are humans... but what's "extraterrial presence"?

woman
I should have said : We are like man chasing Extraterrestrial presence.

Well we ARE men chasing women. lol

[sw72hw]

@ Maniac & Sarge,

Comparing women as some alien... lol. But after all we should treat them indifferently from anyone we interact with. Or at least I read that somewhere.

@ Tim

I appreciate your share of wisdom, and experience. You know, I should really give more thoughts about who would be my PSL. I should give more thoughts/wondering about her characteristics, education/intelligence level, and etc... Since I lack women experience, I don't know what's good for me, nor I don't know what I am typically interested. I have some vague idea such that the girl has to be intelligent enough, and hopefully similar education. I would prefer/like the girl to have some artistic skills such as good in music or good at drawing/painting. (Having both would be a huge bonus.) I also like a girl with good feminine voice, but this isn't a big deal. (Still I prefer.)
Yet, the funny thing is this would probably apply, if I were to chase PRL instead of PSL. Again, probably due to my lack of experience, but perhaps, I don't really differentiate the two in my conscious mind. We'll see how this will turn out.

[sw72hw]

I had two incidents worth sharing here.

The first happened at a mall on Monday. I had three things to get: a sandal, body wash and body lotion, and a fragrance.

I first went to get the sandal. Things were smooth, and the girl (who was relatively good looking) was kind. We had a small chat about the rain we've been having. Again things were smooth and was refreshing.

The next stop, I went to grab a body wash and lotion. I was the only customer to arrive there (perhaps it's due to the brand being relatively on the high level, and/or the recency of the opening of the shop in the mall). I was doing some window shopping to see which was the good one to get, and one of the girl working there came to help me. With her help, I was able to grab the ones I wanted relatively quick.

She started a conversation with me by asking if I am a traveler. I told her that I am studying here and told her where I go to college. She told me that I go to a great school that I am probably much smarter than her and etc..... The conversation went for a while, much longer than my usual conversation with store workers or girls in general. Yet, I noticed that during the conversation the girl would sometimes have her arms crossed, and it's not a good sign. But still, I also heard that it isn't always a bad sign, sign of distancing in my mediation classes. Still, I was able to make her laugh a few times, and it was quite effortless. I find that some girls are quite easy to make them laugh. Unfortunately, I still had some homework to do and my shopping wasn't done either. So I took out my cell phone and looked time, and told her that I had to go. She seemed a bit disappointed, but then still I left. Anyway, I think the girl was giving me a mixed signals. She was in the conversation, and she was into the conversation quite much to a point that she nearly got in a way of a customer. (Although at times she seemed a little bit off.) She had a few good laughs, but her arm crossing may have perhaps been a good indication of the negative sign. Yet again, she seemed to have shown interests in the conversation, was relating much to what I said, and etc. I even got to a point of her revealing some personal/private stuff in the conversation. She told me that she had a weirdo once who followed her entire mall, and came into the store to just have conversation. (I feel bad for the dude for not having enough courage to ask her out.) All of these tell me that I could have pushed further and may have ended up going somewhere further. But I didn't. One part of me was telling me that I should have pushed further. (After all, the girl's cute) And the other side of me was telling that the girl is a bit too young (just graduated high school), and some of her other background were just too different from mine that we would not have been a good match.

Anyway, I am not feeling bad as I had a good experience and learning from that conversation. I learned that I still need to work on getting to deeper level, and probably faster, if I were to ask a girl out. After a while it started to get a little weird or awkward to just jump around different topics. Perhaps this was a reason that I didn't end up asking the girl out, or gave her my number, or getting her number. In the end, if she's my perfect lover, I will have another chance to ask the girl out. Probably, and hopefully.

After the conversation, I went to pick up a fragrance, and came home.

I also had another interesting experience last night. I had very little homework for next class, which is tomorrow that I decided to stop by at Buffalo Wild Wings. There I encountered a group of old friends from my previous institution. They were just coming out, so I just gave my number to one of the guys (changed number) and then I proceeded to the bar table.

There, I had a few interesting experience. First, the bartender remembered me, and guess what, I haven't seen her for like almost three weeks, and this is only second time seeing her. This isn't the first time for this to happen. A while ago, before I even started any subs, I had same experience at a different restaurant. Again, the server was a girl, and come to think about it now, she wanted to get my attention and start a conversation, such as specifically pointing to a decoration and mentioning something about it.

Going back to the moment at Buffalo Wild Wings, I asked her if my face is weird or something, as people seem to remember me quite well. She told me that it wasn't the case, but she just seem to remember it well. Well, I wanted to go with asking her if I was handsome or something that she seemed to remember me, but apparently a guy sitting on the right side of me seemed super drunk and seemed to be hitting on the bartender. I didn't want to start a problem, but wanted to practice conversation, so that's why I chose weird instead of handsome. But ironically it may have backfired on me, and I'm going to explain that later.

I ordered a few stuff, including Guiness. The bartender didn't check my ID. Usually, it is that they check my ID even though they know me. But this time, she didn't, and I commented on it. She told me not to tell anyone, and I told her that our secret is safe. After a while, food came, and shortly after I started eating, this guy sitting right side on me came to introduce himself to me. He came to tell me that I look like a movie star, and then he came to show me the Asian dude from Hangover movie. Well, it was somewhat racist, but I laughed it off, and played it cool, as the guy seemed somewhat drunk. And it has been a long time that I got a racist comment, or being made fun of. He even grabbed one of a waitress at the restaurant and asked the girl if I looked like the dude. The girl seemed rather uncomfortable and said that she wasn't so sure about that. (I feel bad for her as she was in a bad spot.) Shortly after, he left, and then his brother, who also happened to sit right side on me, came to apologize to me. He and I had a bit of conversation, and soon I found that the drunk guy was going through the aftermath of break up. The brother also told me that his brother also caused some problem at other places he took the guy out to. But he told me that he had to take the guy out as he was just stuck in his home for all the time. I told him that things started to make sense, and I told him that it's cool, and told him that it was rather refreshing as I have not gotten stuff like this for a long time. (During entire 10 years of studying abroad, I only got about 3~4 times of racist comment or being made fun of due to my race. And the last one was more then 5 years ago.) After that we exchanged handshake and name.

The funny thing was this. The brother came back, and after a while, this little brother went to washroom. He came to have another conversation. Nothing was offensive, nor it got anything bad. And the funny thing was that after a while, the little brother came back, and soon after, this older was asking me if I wanted to join them along as they were going to go somewhere else, probably a club. I told them that I gotta work (although I don't have a work, but rather school work to do, so not entirely a lie) that I can't join them. Besides, I wasn't sure if that would have been a good idea, as the guy was clearly drunk, and he was hitting on pretty much all the waitresses, and even some girls staying at the restaurant, which made his little brother busy with apologizing.

So playing cool rather seemed to have a great positive effect. The drunk guy probably wanted to do something as I was showing to have some high value. Or he wanted to lower my value by making some racist comment and by doing that he would increase his value around the waitress. But my playing cool rather seemed to have turned this dude to feel rather friendly and invite me along. Or perhaps he wanted to bring me along to make fun of me to raise his value. But in the end, I feel sad for him that he didn't have any other better way to go over the emotional baggage he needs to get rid of.

In a sense I feel somewhat alpha that I was able to play it along cool. Yet not so alpha or entirely alpha, as the incident made me feel rather uncomfortable maybe 10~15 minutes past.

And lastly, I am beginning to wonder if I should continue this program, or save it for some later time. There are several reasons for this. First, I will graduate in a year, and given the time to manifest, or even without time to manifest, I don't know if it would be a wise idea to meet my perfect lover during this time. Second, come to think of it now, I may have started the program out of neediness: wanting to experience sex, and more experience with girl. I wonder if this is healthy at all. Third, I also realize that by end of 2015, I will be forced to go back to my home country to fulfill my military conscription. Given this, I wonder if I should use AM6, instead of this sub. I plan on being a translating officer, as it has many more benefits over just conscription, and I think that alpha trait would be helpful to have, hence the reason for wondering.

Hopefully, I will be able to make a good decision on the use of the sub. And hopefully, I will get some input from people in the forum to make the right decision.

Again, the post has become super long, and I appreciate your reading it.

p.s. mentioning of neediness reminded me of another effect of the sub. It killed my neediness, and that it is almost non-existence. Perhaps this is one of the reasons for my wondering of switching the sub.

[JackOfHearts]

You should write a book man

Yeah it would be better to run AM6 first and then attract your perfect ** .
Especially if you are going to fulfill some military things. You might want to consider LTU too which like a mini AM6. AM6 can be pretty hardcore for some people and not recommended if you are passing exam or things that need permanent focus.

[sw72hw]

You should write a book man

Yeah it would be better to run AM6 first and then attract your perfect ** .
Especially if you are going to fulfill some military things. You might want to consider LTU too which like a mini AM6. AM6 can be pretty hardcore for some people and not recommended if you are passing exam or things that need permanent focus.

Perhaps, I may write a book in the future. Who knows :angel: LOL

Given your input, I may do LTU or AM6. Unfortunately, I may not have enough fund to buy AM6. LTU, well, I can technically get it at half price, since I have bought LTU 2.0 in the past. (I believe if you have a previous version, you get 50% off right?)

You mentioned AM 6 is not recommended in the case of exam or things need permanent focus. This means then AM6 may not be suitable for me during my entire life time as I see myself getting probably involved in some sort of academic related work --> I'm thinking that I may likely get involved in think tank work, or something similar in the future. Besides, I was diagnosed with ADD, and that additional distraction may be too much. (This diagnosis needs to be confirmed again.)

Now I have a few challenging decision to make. The 1st is, do I continue use AYPSL until I get the result? If not, when do I quit the program? And then the next question/decision I need to answer is, do I use AM 6, or LTU next? The question will probably have a lot to do with budget. But I also read in one of Shanon's posts that AM 6 covers 98% of LTU, and LTU is only about 10% of AM6, and this makes me wonder, if I should be giving up that much, assuming that my budget's big enough. But then again, the question is will I be able to handle AM6, and if that is too much to handle for me, will I be able to afford the hassles that AM6 will bring to my life? I wonder if I should have an attitude of "Bring it on, I can face it." Or I should be "safe rather than be sorry."

Anyway, I think I will be at least using the program until I hit 32 days (which seem to be the very minimum time required to expect something), or till two months mark as that is the minimum expected amount of the program stated on the store page.

Hopefully, Shannon and others will provide some input.

And, Maniac, thanks for your thoughts.

[Shannon]

1. The Optimus Engine changes everything you need to change to achieve the goal.
2. Women crossing their arms can be a sign that she feels vulnerable to you, and is trying to protect herself. That may be a good thing, if it's because she feels too attracted too quickly - as long as you deal with it in the right way.
3. women are not aliens, and thinking like that is what keeps you apart from them, gentlemen.
4. 50% discount for upgrades is for AM/AF/SM/WM.

[JackOfHearts]

3. women are not aliens, and thinking like that is what keeps you apart from them, gentlemen.

It was a kind of joke actually about how far we can be from reality with girls communication. It reminds me how I was before doing my self improvement