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Social skills 2.0
10-24-2017, 06:57 PM
Post: #41
RE: Social skills 2.0
(10-24-2017 06:43 PM)Eplaisance1988 Wrote:  I would buy this for sure

Me too, rather: add it to DMSI and AM 7.

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10-24-2017, 08:01 PM
Post: #42
RE: Social skills 2.0
I can understand that you're strapped for money Sarge but I see no reason why that should constitute it being diminished in quality just to be fused into another sub.

The goals of this sub require a stand alone.
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10-25-2017, 06:33 AM
Post: #43
RE: Social skills 2.0
(10-24-2017 08:01 PM)Determined Wrote:  I can understand that you're strapped for money Sarge but I see no reason why that should constitute it being diminished in quality just to be fused into another sub.

The goals of this sub require a stand alone.

I disagree. It's my hope that one day Shannon makes the ultimate sub that does it all.

I imagine it would cost a lot too, so it's not about money.

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10-25-2017, 07:45 AM (This post was last modified: 10-25-2017 07:50 AM by Determined.)
Post: #44
RE: Social skills 2.0
Building relationships and maintaining them long term (relationship management)
Emotional Intelligence
Social Intelligence
Net working
Sense of humour
Story telling
Influence and Persuasion skills
Being Fashionable / Dressing well
Charisma (can use DMSI tech to create an aura of charisma around the user too)
Charm

You'd need a stand alone sub to incorporate all of that. I'd imagine the script to be as large as AM6 as each of those traits mentioned requires several sub scripts to achieve.
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10-25-2017, 12:28 PM
Post: #45
RE: Social skills 2.0
(10-25-2017 07:45 AM)Determined Wrote:  Building relationships and maintaining them long term (relationship management)
Emotional Intelligence
Social Intelligence
Net working
Sense of humour
Story telling
Influence and Persuasion skills
Being Fashionable / Dressing well
Charisma (can use DMSI tech to create an aura of charisma around the user too)
Charm

You'd need a stand alone sub to incorporate all of that. I'd imagine the script to be as large as AM6 as each of those traits mentioned requires several sub scripts to achieve.

Hmm, not to mention that it may be better to FOCUS one's energy on learning ONE aspect at a time, soa social skills sub could be better as a standalone.

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10-26-2017, 09:31 PM
Post: #46
RE: Social skills 2.0
Reminds me of the once 'socializing is just a fun game' IML CD...back in 2010..perhaps that could be included as well. good post.

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10-27-2017, 03:15 AM
Post: #47
RE: Social skills 2.0
I think that was a 3g program. I'm pretty sure there's atleast elements of that in AM.
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11-02-2017, 04:06 AM
Post: #48
RE: Social skills 2.0
What about one single focus sub with none of the complication.. all the anti evasion crap.... just learn to be social no matter how much you’re rejected and how much it hurts
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11-02-2017, 04:29 AM
Post: #49
RE: Social skills 2.0
(11-02-2017 04:06 AM)brightike Wrote:  What about one single focus sub with none of the complication.. all the anti evasion crap.... just learn to be social no matter how much you’re rejected and how much it hurts

Everyone has their own socialising blue print within their own mind and the vast majority of these are functional enough to get a person by in their day to day interactions.

What I'm proposing with this sub is an upgrade to this blueprint. So user's begin to do things and achieve social objectives which they previously couldn't.

When you're operating from your blueprint and in a "flow state" it's impossible not to be social. Hence rejection and hurt just fall by the wayside.
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11-11-2017, 11:47 AM
Post: #50
RE: Social skills 2.0
Yeah social rejection hurts. I socialize with people at work fine but outside of work I almost have close to no social life outside of social media. I feel like no one reciprocates when I ask them if they want to do things. Then I feel like I try to hard which makes feel even more awkward. UD is helping this but I feel a sub that is specifically designed for improving social skills would work wonders.
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11-22-2017, 12:16 PM
Post: #51
RE: Social skills 2.0
(11-11-2017 11:47 AM)THolt Wrote:  Yeah social rejection hurts. I socialize with people at work fine but outside of work I almost have close to no social life outside of social media. I feel like no one reciprocates when I ask them if they want to do things. Then I feel like I try to hard which makes feel even more awkward. UD is helping this but I feel a sub that is specifically designed for improving social skills would work wonders.

Before anyone hangs out with you. They are going to ask what value can I possibly gain from hanging out with this person. I personally think a sub will not assist in bridging this gap. The remedy I believe is to develop a sought after value that people may like, or relentlessly pursue what you enjoy doing outside of meeting friends on social media. A hobby in itself can be value that can attract like minded people.
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11-23-2017, 03:42 AM
Post: #52
RE: Social skills 2.0
(11-22-2017 12:16 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 11:47 AM)THolt Wrote:  Yeah social rejection hurts. I socialize with people at work fine but outside of work I almost have close to no social life outside of social media. I feel like no one reciprocates when I ask them if they want to do things. Then I feel like I try to hard which makes feel even more awkward. UD is helping this but I feel a sub that is specifically designed for improving social skills would work wonders.

Before anyone hangs out with you. They are going to ask what value can I possibly gain from hanging out with this person. I personally think a sub will not assist in bridging this gap. The remedy I believe is to develop a sought after value that people may like, or relentlessly pursue what you enjoy doing outside of meeting friends on social media. A hobby in itself can be value that can attract like minded people.

The value paradigm is actually quite counter productive to meeting people and making new friends. If you're setting the frame that "We're only friends because we're mutually valuable" then it easily falls apart once said value is gone.

I've found that the genuinely best friends I've made and still make are just people in my proximity that I enjoy hanging out with.

So yes the solution to your problem is to become "more valuable" if that is the paradigm with which you choose to view the world.
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11-23-2017, 07:21 AM (This post was last modified: 11-23-2017 07:25 AM by thor2014.)
Post: #53
RE: Social skills 2.0
(11-23-2017 03:42 AM)Determined Wrote:  
(11-22-2017 12:16 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 11:47 AM)THolt Wrote:  Yeah social rejection hurts. I socialize with people at work fine but outside of work I almost have close to no social life outside of social media. I feel like no one reciprocates when I ask them if they want to do things. Then I feel like I try to hard which makes feel even more awkward. UD is helping this but I feel a sub that is specifically designed for improving social skills would work wonders.

Before anyone hangs out with you. They are going to ask what value can I possibly gain from hanging out with this person. I personally think a sub will not assist in bridging this gap. The remedy I believe is to develop a sought after value that people may like, or relentlessly pursue what you enjoy doing outside of meeting friends on social media. A hobby in itself can be value that can attract like minded people.

The value paradigm is actually quite counter productive to meeting people and making new friends. If you're setting the frame that "We're only friends because we're mutually valuable" then it easily falls apart once said value is gone.

I've found that the genuinely best friends I've made and still make are just people in my proximity that I enjoy hanging out with.

So yes the solution to your problem is to become "more valuable" if that is the paradigm with which you choose to view the world.

Tellme do your closest friends share similar or identical values to you ?. I am not clear where you got this notion from that I have a problem.
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11-23-2017, 09:22 AM
Post: #54
RE: Social skills 2.0
Lol, you mis-read what I wrote.

"The remedy I believe is to develop a sought after value that people may like"

If that's the paradigm with which you choose to view the world, then yes the "remedy" (or solution) is to become more valuable as a person.
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11-23-2017, 09:43 AM
Post: #55
RE: Social skills 2.0
(11-23-2017 09:22 AM)Determined Wrote:  Lol, you mis-read what I wrote.

"The remedy I believe is to develop a sought after value that people may like"

If that's the paradigm with which you choose to view the world, then yes the "remedy" (or solution) is to become more valuable as a person.

Apologies Determined I did mis-read what you wrote.
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11-24-2017, 09:40 AM
Post: #56
RE: Social skills 2.0
I am running UD right now and I feel that it is helping in the area of social skills. I do think a program specifically designed for social skils would be immensely helpful.
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12-25-2017, 04:02 PM
Post: #57
RE: Social skills 2.0
What does everyone think regarding the applicability of SE to developing better social skills?
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12-25-2017, 04:39 PM
Post: #58
RE: Social skills 2.0
(12-25-2017 04:02 PM)THolt Wrote:  What does everyone think regarding the applicability of SE to developing better social skills?

This is merely my opinion of course, but I think that social failure upon social failure can contribute greatly to zero-to-low self esteem. And from that lack of self esteem is developed a vicious cycle: social failure-->low-self-esteem--->more social failure due to low self esteem due to social failure--->more low self esteem etc.

In that sense, SE sub could be applicable. But I think the development of a focused social skills sub with special emphasis on greater self esteem would be useful.

Also, someone mentioned in their list "reading social cues". I think this is particularly important for those that have trouble with this as this is a very important building block of social development and could serve as an obstacle for some.
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12-25-2017, 07:52 PM (This post was last modified: 12-25-2017 08:42 PM by Determined.)
Post: #59
RE: Social skills 2.0
(12-25-2017 04:39 PM)Eplaisance1988 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 04:02 PM)THolt Wrote:  What does everyone think regarding the applicability of SE to developing better social skills?

This is merely my opinion of course, but I think that social failure upon social failure can contribute greatly to zero-to-low self esteem. And from that lack of self esteem is developed a vicious cycle: social failure-->low-self-esteem--->more social failure due to low self esteem due to social failure--->more low self esteem etc.

In that sense, SE sub could be applicable. But I think the development of a focused social skills sub with special emphasis on greater self esteem would be useful.

Also, someone mentioned in their list "reading social cues". I think this is particularly important for those that have trouble with this as this is a very important building block of social development and could serve as an obstacle for some.

What is "social failure"?

Arguably there are no "social failures". Getting rejected isn't the end of the world. You'd have to be pretty egocentric to take these kinds of things to heart.

You'd also have to be beating yourself up for every perceived "failure" in order to lower self esteem.

Creating a loop with an external locus of control (hint: you're placing your self esteem on social success/ failure which is external) is a recipe for disaster.

Using SE 5.5G would be good for rebuilding self esteem but you'd also have to stop the self esteem destroying behaviours.

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12-25-2017, 08:04 PM
Post: #60
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(12-25-2017 04:02 PM)THolt Wrote:  What does everyone think regarding the applicability of SE to developing better social skills?

I think it'd be great. People with high self esteem are naturally attractive. Like moths to a flame everyone wants to be around them.

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