10-16-2015, 04:41 PM
Okay I will firstly state that I cannot relate my experience to WM as I have read that its effects are different and doesn't have the same outcome pattern.
I'm probably not the first person to notice this and I am just expressing my thinking outwards. In recent years I have ran AM5 + SM2 (4G) and AM6 once and SM3 twice. Now I have been around these products for a long time, I remember the discussions on the forum of how to make AM5 the best possible sub it could be lol.
There is a 32 days per stage rule on all 6 stage subliminals and this stretches way back to much older subs, Shannons sub are considered exponentially more powerful now than they were years ago.
Running AM5, SM2 the 32 days made sense, especially with AM5 as everyday brought with it something new to knock you off of your previous course, these subs truly needed 32 days to adapt change.
In the last 2 years I have ran the 5G subs mentioned above, and one thing that seems mostly pointless is the 32 days rule, during both subs there are noticeable changes or effects of the subs within the early days of each stage, however around 2/3 of each stage just seems pointless, nothing exciting is happening, dreams etc brought on by the stage just seem to cease. I have found it so hard to keep an upto online journal because I've been super busy, but i have been keeping a personal one, and the pattern is the same for both subs I have ran this year, every stage AM6 + SM3 starts off with something noticeable, after about 5 days changes seem to slow, and in the 9-11 day mark there is a plateau point that seems to happen, you just are done and ready for the next stage, and whats really frustrating is for every stage there is 20 days that aren't worth mentioning because a) nothing new is happening and b) changes have already occurred
I do miss AM5 and I miss when subliminal were easier to build resistance towards, at least then any changes meant you knew when things were spiralling out of control that something was being worked on. Honestly I would love to run both these subliminal again, but I can't see the point its like running 6 different short subs that are connected, but instead of continual progress like the 4G versions it is quick progress and a whole lot of nothing and waiting for the next jump at progress.
My 384 day journey is coming to an end soon, 12 stages at 32 days each of AM then SM. Im somewhat disappointed, at 16 days a stage I would have done this journey twice, at 10 days a stage i could have ran both 3 times and seen continual change.
These subs are supposed to be integrated and I am unsure why the decision to experiment with shorter testing periods hasn't been made a major thing. 5G was initially said to be like 10x more powerful than 4G (or 4X can't remember) and that was before some of the newer technologies such as Slipstream etc were added in, so it makes sense to me that a more powerful sub would incorporate a lesser exposure time to have effect, which I have noticed, starting a new stage is always apparent because the first few days are either the worst or the best.
Stage 4 and 5 of AM6 I actually encountered a lot of resistance, I went through points where my mood could almost be described as bipolar, however in both stages this happened from day 2 - 6, day 7 i was fine, day 8 things were looking up and then just nothing to report until the next stage.
I believe if its your first time then maybe 32 days is a good foundation setting, but i ran both these subs on time par with a friend whom is otherwise new to shannons work and his results are so similar to mine, the main times the subs had a strong effect were the early section of each stage.
I would love to see the comparison with AM6.
Two people both new to the sub,
1 person running 32 days per stage = 192 days
1 person 10 days per stage, 3 times through = 180 days
I'd be happy to bet the person benefiting the most would be the one who ran it 3 times.
why?
changes introduced, quick ascending to next stage = less stagnating, less looking around for change (which a lot of us have done in our journals), then a complete reinforcement on the 2nd and the 3rd run
Also, if the goal of each stage is introducing something new, what happens to the subconscious mind after the idea has been accepted, constant repetition begins to lose value, because when we have incorporated an idea we essentially ignore it when its implanted, well thats how it works in a healthy mind, so really constant reinforcement isn't good as it achieves nothing...
you wouldn't run a stage 7 refresher for ever, your subconscious would incorporate the change being suggested and then automatically ignore the suggestions until your beliefs etc had been changed.
so 22 days of the same messages is weak if the sub is powerful enough to force your subliminal mind into submission in the first week, your subconscious actually gets bored of listening to the sub because its not being influenced.
Example... you run a 6 stager, at the every stage your more tired than normal, your brain is working around the clock to process the new way of thinking, you lose this less than half way through the stage, your tiredness isn't as apparent and then suddenly BOOM! you start the next stage and you are tired again.
The moment your mind fully accepts a suggestions it will stop listening to it until a point where that suggestion no longer sits true in your reality, if these subs are so powerful they can affect a change of belief in a few days, then it makes sense that by day 20,25,32 your mind isn't listening to the bulk of each stage because it doesn't have to, it will only be affected by suggestions you haven't accepted yet. Remembering that some suggestions can take multiple runs of the program to be accepted and some you personally may not accept at all.
Whats your opinion guys and of course Shannon? Those running AM6, SM3 whats your input?
Again I know that WM is a little different, a lot of the technology is older and WM doesn't contain OE etc and has a noticeable impact throughout its stages because of that good old fashioned resistance etc
I shouldn't write these at 2am lol, i know its poorly written and i don't mean to come across arrogant etc,
I'm probably not the first person to notice this and I am just expressing my thinking outwards. In recent years I have ran AM5 + SM2 (4G) and AM6 once and SM3 twice. Now I have been around these products for a long time, I remember the discussions on the forum of how to make AM5 the best possible sub it could be lol.
There is a 32 days per stage rule on all 6 stage subliminals and this stretches way back to much older subs, Shannons sub are considered exponentially more powerful now than they were years ago.
Running AM5, SM2 the 32 days made sense, especially with AM5 as everyday brought with it something new to knock you off of your previous course, these subs truly needed 32 days to adapt change.
In the last 2 years I have ran the 5G subs mentioned above, and one thing that seems mostly pointless is the 32 days rule, during both subs there are noticeable changes or effects of the subs within the early days of each stage, however around 2/3 of each stage just seems pointless, nothing exciting is happening, dreams etc brought on by the stage just seem to cease. I have found it so hard to keep an upto online journal because I've been super busy, but i have been keeping a personal one, and the pattern is the same for both subs I have ran this year, every stage AM6 + SM3 starts off with something noticeable, after about 5 days changes seem to slow, and in the 9-11 day mark there is a plateau point that seems to happen, you just are done and ready for the next stage, and whats really frustrating is for every stage there is 20 days that aren't worth mentioning because a) nothing new is happening and b) changes have already occurred
I do miss AM5 and I miss when subliminal were easier to build resistance towards, at least then any changes meant you knew when things were spiralling out of control that something was being worked on. Honestly I would love to run both these subliminal again, but I can't see the point its like running 6 different short subs that are connected, but instead of continual progress like the 4G versions it is quick progress and a whole lot of nothing and waiting for the next jump at progress.
My 384 day journey is coming to an end soon, 12 stages at 32 days each of AM then SM. Im somewhat disappointed, at 16 days a stage I would have done this journey twice, at 10 days a stage i could have ran both 3 times and seen continual change.
These subs are supposed to be integrated and I am unsure why the decision to experiment with shorter testing periods hasn't been made a major thing. 5G was initially said to be like 10x more powerful than 4G (or 4X can't remember) and that was before some of the newer technologies such as Slipstream etc were added in, so it makes sense to me that a more powerful sub would incorporate a lesser exposure time to have effect, which I have noticed, starting a new stage is always apparent because the first few days are either the worst or the best.
Stage 4 and 5 of AM6 I actually encountered a lot of resistance, I went through points where my mood could almost be described as bipolar, however in both stages this happened from day 2 - 6, day 7 i was fine, day 8 things were looking up and then just nothing to report until the next stage.
I believe if its your first time then maybe 32 days is a good foundation setting, but i ran both these subs on time par with a friend whom is otherwise new to shannons work and his results are so similar to mine, the main times the subs had a strong effect were the early section of each stage.
I would love to see the comparison with AM6.
Two people both new to the sub,
1 person running 32 days per stage = 192 days
1 person 10 days per stage, 3 times through = 180 days
I'd be happy to bet the person benefiting the most would be the one who ran it 3 times.
why?
changes introduced, quick ascending to next stage = less stagnating, less looking around for change (which a lot of us have done in our journals), then a complete reinforcement on the 2nd and the 3rd run
Also, if the goal of each stage is introducing something new, what happens to the subconscious mind after the idea has been accepted, constant repetition begins to lose value, because when we have incorporated an idea we essentially ignore it when its implanted, well thats how it works in a healthy mind, so really constant reinforcement isn't good as it achieves nothing...
you wouldn't run a stage 7 refresher for ever, your subconscious would incorporate the change being suggested and then automatically ignore the suggestions until your beliefs etc had been changed.
so 22 days of the same messages is weak if the sub is powerful enough to force your subliminal mind into submission in the first week, your subconscious actually gets bored of listening to the sub because its not being influenced.
Example... you run a 6 stager, at the every stage your more tired than normal, your brain is working around the clock to process the new way of thinking, you lose this less than half way through the stage, your tiredness isn't as apparent and then suddenly BOOM! you start the next stage and you are tired again.
The moment your mind fully accepts a suggestions it will stop listening to it until a point where that suggestion no longer sits true in your reality, if these subs are so powerful they can affect a change of belief in a few days, then it makes sense that by day 20,25,32 your mind isn't listening to the bulk of each stage because it doesn't have to, it will only be affected by suggestions you haven't accepted yet. Remembering that some suggestions can take multiple runs of the program to be accepted and some you personally may not accept at all.
Whats your opinion guys and of course Shannon? Those running AM6, SM3 whats your input?
Again I know that WM is a little different, a lot of the technology is older and WM doesn't contain OE etc and has a noticeable impact throughout its stages because of that good old fashioned resistance etc
I shouldn't write these at 2am lol, i know its poorly written and i don't mean to come across arrogant etc,