12-08-2025, 08:52 PM
(12-08-2025, 12:29 PM)ReconGunner Wrote:(12-07-2025, 08:48 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: I will add that all four stages of UMS 6G had a similar effect on me; not very much had happened. It might be something to do with my psychological profile and how it responds to your builds.
I can't speak to DMSI, X4A, etc. as I have not used any of them. Being happily married, I don't have a use case for them. SARM, on the other hand...![]()
For UMS 6G, I'm almost finished with Stage 2 of my second run through. UMS does a lot of internal work, and I see more and more how much of that I've needed. I fully intend to do four consecutive run throughs unless something external gives sooner and I achieve my general UMS goals. I'm a sample size of 1, obviously; it looks like some of us need more internal work of whatever kind before external effects will occur. And 6G in particular looks like it is good for that work relative to whatever the title's overall goals are.
To the original question: If someone chooses to use DMSI, X4A, etc., that is a choice to make pursuing sex their primary goal. (Obviously, if they are a tester, the primary goal is to test the title.) Making the pursuit of sex your primary goal means that something else cannot be your primary goal. In that way it will always be a distraction from other goals.
You can have a healthy sex life while pursuing other goals. Many successful men report that focusing on the pursuit of a different primary goal than sex - your "mission", whatever you choose it to be - is an attractor to women who learn that about you.
As to the morality question, it depends on what code or standard of morality you believe to be definitive for you. Most religions place restrictions on sexual morality. If you do not consider any of them to be applicable to you or binding on you, then whatever code you choose to hold to will determine the answer. Only you (specific and generic) can address that; it's best discussed with others who hold to the same moral code. And there's likely enough variety in that among the folks here that all you are likely to get is different answers from the perspective of each person's moral standard.
Summary: decide what your goals are and use the corresponding title for your goals, one main goal at a time. Questions of morality are specific to whatever moral code you hold to.
I appreciate the thoughtful reply and weighing the pros and cons. There are two things which probably spurred this on.
1) I'm on a 'retention' journey, and I'm probably 25-35 days in (I lost count); though I won't be doing this forever, I'm finding that I'm much more 'spiritually' attuned and receptive to subtle energies. I'm also surprisingly not overwhelmed with feelings of limerence or sexual yearning.
2) A serious questioning of what I want to obtain in life, which relates to some coaching I'm receiving. I'm trying to untangle and determine which of my motivations are based on bad foundations, such as titillation, revenge, boasting, laziness, and others.
I'm generally quite sex positive, and I've been considerably sex seeking in the past. I chose to run DMSI again so that I could seek (and attract) attractive women who are my type.
If all goes well, I'll probably get OPE to integrate a very sexually-active sex life with long-term retention.
My "problem" is that I haven't been pursuing sex, even after four months of running this program, which leads me to wonder what I'm resisting.
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