02-08-2013, 04:48 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-08-2013, 04:53 PM by RainbowAbyss.)
In the past in some tribes-tribesman could never go anywhere alone out of fear of being attacked by 'dark magic'. Modern Psychologists believe it was superstition that was metaphoric for the 'psychic entropy' that occurs when given to much time to ruminate. We live in a time of excess, abundance, and freedom... the price of freedom is self mastery. Some people try to hide back in familiarity or fundamentalism, some get lost in mediocrity or minutia, some people rot or check out, and some people find the meaning and make the most of it.
Pills and prescriptions are abused and overused but as fans of logic on this forum it seems a bit hasty to say they don't do a damn thing but... and that they don't do a good job at that...for one thing isn't that a subjective experience.
Ryan has stated on this forum multiple times in the past that medication has helped him get through some dark and rough times and I don't know if he still takes anything but if it helped when it helped what's wrong with that? I have a cousin who was adopted from Russia and was clinically brought in on felony charges 3 times before he was 13..100 mg of vyvanse a day and 4 years later. He's the top of his class and has not had an incident in years and now he doesn't need anything any more. I was with a girl for a while whose brother was a schizophrenic and had to take prescription medication. I've also personally found benefit in the temporary use of medication and if anything I've tried too hard in the past to address 'issues' about myself.
Yes I agree that many 'mental disorders' we see nowadays are in fact a consequence of the modern day but not everything is a conspiracy theory a. Some people really do need and benefit from medication and b. If medication is used appropriately it can help life effectiveness while certain underlying symptoms and issues can be addressed, sometimes more effectively.
I like the way Jim Carrey-put it with Larry King
KING: Didn't you suffer from depression?
CARREY: Yes, yes. I'm on a manic high right now. Can't you tell?
KING: How did you get through that to this?
CARREY: Well, that's another thing. You know at the risk of like opening up the whole Tom Cruise Prozac argument, you know, I don't disagree in many ways. I think Prozac and things like that are very valuable to people for short periods of time. But I believe if you're on them for an extended period of time, you never get to the problem. You never get to see what the problem is, because everything is just kind of OK. And so, you don't deal. And people deal when they get desperate.
KING: So how did you do it?
CARREY: I take supplements.
KING: Vitamins?
CARREY: Yes — well, it's not — well, it is vitamins. But it's also certain elements of the brain like Tyrosine and hydroxytryptophan that they're treating depression with now. It is a natural substance that's in your brain. Instead of being a Serotonin inhibitor, which just uses the serotonin you have and Prozac and things like that — it just uses the Serotonin you have and it doesn't allow it go back into the receptor. It metabolizes your serotonin after a while and you have to keep taking more and more to feel good. This actually creates dopamine and creates serotonin. It's a wonderful thing. It's amazing. I'm going to talk a lot about it in the near future.
Pills and prescriptions are abused and overused but as fans of logic on this forum it seems a bit hasty to say they don't do a damn thing but... and that they don't do a good job at that...for one thing isn't that a subjective experience.
Ryan has stated on this forum multiple times in the past that medication has helped him get through some dark and rough times and I don't know if he still takes anything but if it helped when it helped what's wrong with that? I have a cousin who was adopted from Russia and was clinically brought in on felony charges 3 times before he was 13..100 mg of vyvanse a day and 4 years later. He's the top of his class and has not had an incident in years and now he doesn't need anything any more. I was with a girl for a while whose brother was a schizophrenic and had to take prescription medication. I've also personally found benefit in the temporary use of medication and if anything I've tried too hard in the past to address 'issues' about myself.
Yes I agree that many 'mental disorders' we see nowadays are in fact a consequence of the modern day but not everything is a conspiracy theory a. Some people really do need and benefit from medication and b. If medication is used appropriately it can help life effectiveness while certain underlying symptoms and issues can be addressed, sometimes more effectively.
I like the way Jim Carrey-put it with Larry King
KING: Didn't you suffer from depression?
CARREY: Yes, yes. I'm on a manic high right now. Can't you tell?
KING: How did you get through that to this?
CARREY: Well, that's another thing. You know at the risk of like opening up the whole Tom Cruise Prozac argument, you know, I don't disagree in many ways. I think Prozac and things like that are very valuable to people for short periods of time. But I believe if you're on them for an extended period of time, you never get to the problem. You never get to see what the problem is, because everything is just kind of OK. And so, you don't deal. And people deal when they get desperate.
KING: So how did you do it?
CARREY: I take supplements.
KING: Vitamins?
CARREY: Yes — well, it's not — well, it is vitamins. But it's also certain elements of the brain like Tyrosine and hydroxytryptophan that they're treating depression with now. It is a natural substance that's in your brain. Instead of being a Serotonin inhibitor, which just uses the serotonin you have and Prozac and things like that — it just uses the Serotonin you have and it doesn't allow it go back into the receptor. It metabolizes your serotonin after a while and you have to keep taking more and more to feel good. This actually creates dopamine and creates serotonin. It's a wonderful thing. It's amazing. I'm going to talk a lot about it in the near future.
1. There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness.
2. A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions... Success and failure are for him answers above all.
3. I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more then to be than a good dancer.-F.N.
2. A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions... Success and failure are for him answers above all.
3. I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more then to be than a good dancer.-F.N.
