DMSI 3.3 D --> stupid choice or a good one?

[sw72hw]

Hey guys,

it's been a while. Well, since I got stuck in this situation, which is equivalent to forced labor situation, I decided to stop DMSI. That must have been at least 8 months to maybe a year. Either way I have not run DMSI or any other subs for a while.

Yet, I realized that new version of DMSI was released, and it looked like it had a few new upgrades. I got curious, and I was like, what the heck, let's run it and see how it goes.

Now this could be a great mistake. I will explain below.

1. Logistics wise, sex is nearly impossible. Well, currently I am back in my home country to fulfill military conscription (well, I'm not exactly in a military, but I am doing what's called social service corp, instead. And based on international labor organization's standard, what I do (or what guys do in this thing) is considered as a forced labor.) Therefore, I live with my parents. And girls tend to live with their parents too, until they get married (and sometimes even after.) Therefore, logistics is terrible for sex.

2. Work setting isn't all that great. The workers in the place I do the service are mostly women (about half are old married, and the other half are young ones.). Okay, it's not a bad thing, I suppose. However, crazy metoo stuff has been going on here, to a point that lots of guys have been falsely accused or have been accused for some sort of revenge. And guess what? Guys had suffered enormously, while the false accusers barely got any penalty. So that's a big risk. Unfortunately, I have another risk factor that I am currently doing this as a military service, which means that if I get into trouble, such as sexual misconduct and other similar charges, I could face several charges/penalties. Military related, civil law related, and also code of conduct for government employees. Therefore, the risk is too large for any potential penalties. Therefore, I am running a huge risk. Also, in this branch of government, the rotation can be anywhere between a few months to 2 years. Therefore, people consistently come and go. Which I suppose can be a good or bad thing. (And I don't get to be on the rotation, unless I get into some sort of trouble.)

3. I suppose this is continuation of the 2nd issue, but I decided to separate it. Because I am doing this as a form of military service, they (the coworkers) think me as a second class citizen. Also, I am the only one who has extensive international experience, (most of others may have traveled to one or two foreign nations, at maximum days only.) and all of these people barely speak English. Therefore, I find that culturally, mentally, and spiritually I am very different from my coworkers. So there is this additional barrier.

There can be more reason for why running DMSI can be a bad thing here, but these are what I believe to be the main ones. Still, if the new version is to be very powerful and successful, shouldn't it get real tough challenge? I say sure, let's see how it goes.

Besides, I wanted to see if it would actually have external impact (how women and potentially men would react differently to me), not necessarily about getting sex.

Therefore, I thought, well, I shall run it for a bit, and see if I like it. If I don't I'll stop it and save it for some other time. That was the plan, but after a day or two of running DMSI, I found that AM6, SM, WM are all on sale...... and I paid roughly about half of what I currently have (oh BTW, I am getting paid below minimum wage, and I have installment savings set up (it's part of the military thing), so my saving of disposable income was very small, barely over $1000), so I currently have these three major programs.

I'm torn between continue running DMSI, and switching to AM6. Yet, since I already began DMSI, I thought, well, maybe I will run it for a week, and see if I notice anything I like, or maybe I will run it for a month, until C version comes out. And then take a break and switch to AM6. I'm not currently decided, but I am running DMSI 3.3D.

Enough of background, and let's get to the reporting.

[Shannon]

I would say your best bet us USLM3 or later...

[sw72hw]

Let me point out a few internal things I think worth mentioning before getting back to DMSI.

1. Masturbation habit. It was gradually decreasing. I have lost interests in porn, nor did these stuff intrigued my sexual interest much. At certain times, I masturbated on a daily basis, and at some other times, I held for a while. Still, my interest in porn has been consistently and gradually decreased. Maybe it's that the quality of porn has decreased in general.

2. Interest in sex decreased in general? I don't know what's this, but it may have to do with my aging. (Still quite young, but I'm late 20s now...)

3. Maybe related to 2, but my interest in women had decreased, and also the desire for relationship.

I'm currently listening to DMSI, and it is my 3rd day. Here is what I noticed.

1. Porn and masturbation habit: it seems nonexistent at the moment. Well, I also noticed that a few days before starting DMSI, my porn and masturbation habit sorta stopped. Now that stopping is actually strong. I actually decided to test it by deliberately getting myself to check out some porn stuff, but it seems not working, so far. It doesn't turn me on, nor does it get me more interested in sex. Who knows what it will be like in the future, and my record for abstaining was about 1.5~ 2 weeks, I think? Let's see how long this new trend will last.

2. Babies and young children? They tend to come more and notice me more? Well, this is something I also noticed with previous versions. However, the tendency was so minor that it wasn't that much of increase, but a minor one. (They did that even while I was not on DMSI.) So minor that I doubt whether it was actually nothing or children's staring at me more. If it was more, then it was a minimal difference.

3. I find my coworkers (female ones) more unattractive? Okay, let me rephrase. I spot their body faults more easily. For instance, I noticed one girl's legs ugly, or I find the other girl, whose face I thought was okay, now ugly. The funny thing, I thought these two would be the choice to have sex, if I had to choose. (The rest didn't even remotely register as fuckable.) On the other hand, I sorta found one woman, who would be considered as unfuckable, now suddenly slightly hot. Well, she's got great lets, and nice body proportions. (It didn't look that way, but now it looks that way. LOL) However, she's definitely untouchable, nor would I run any risk with her. (She's married has two kids. Too many problems, if anything were to happen with her. And I explained that I am now in a way more risky situation.)

In summary, it's safe to say that I only noticed internal changes. Again, pretty consistent with my previous experience with DMSI. Nothing significant in terms of people's changed attitudes or behavior towards me. This makes me glad at the same time meh. I'm glad that there was no change with people's action towards me, which means I wouldn't get into trouble. On the other hand, not really seeing external difference was sorta disappointing. I know I'm contradicting myself, but that's how I felt.

I am still struggling to figure out what to do with AM6 at the moment, but I can and will tell that I will try to run and see the result of DMSI after the secondary ASRB kicks in. Yes, I will try to run it at least till next week. I don't know Christmas is near, and Christmas in this country is supposed to be a day for couples, and for romance. It's odd, but that's the case. Maybe I will try to run it till then, and see if I get a lonely and hot soul along the way? Highly doubt it, but if reality bending is so strong, it may happen. Right?

[sw72hw]

I would say your best bet us USLM3 or later...

Yeah, I thought to purchase the USLM, and it would have been a great choice, but I just found that the three stage programs were on sale, and I spent way too much money on that. Thus, I wouldn't be able to get USLM for a while.

Since you are here, I'd like to ask a question. Given that I ran DMSI 3.3 D for 3 days, how much break days should I give before switching to AM6? Or would AM6 be a bad choice to run, given my situation?

[Shannon]

I would say your best bet us USLM3 or later...

Yeah, I thought to purchase the USLM, and it would have been a great choice, but I just found that the three stage programs were on sale, and I spent way too much money on that. Thus, I wouldn't be able to get USLM for a while.

Since you are here, I'd like to ask a question. Given that I ran DMSI 3.3 D for 3 days, how much break days should I give before switching to AM6? Or would AM6 be a bad choice to run, given my situation?

The break time from a 5.5G/P6 to another program is 35 days.

If you are in a forcible situation where you cannot be alpha or dominate or the like, AM6 is not a good idea.

[Zane]

You should give USLM3-5.5G a shot and try to change your job environment. Apparently find an environment which you more comfortable with.

[sw72hw]

The break time from a 5.5G/P6 to another program is 35 days.

If you are in a forcible situation where you cannot be alpha or dominate or the like, AM6 is not a good idea.

Thank you for the information. Since I am in a forcible situation, in which I absolutely cannot be dominant, it is not a good idea to run AM6.

You should give USLM3-5.5G a shot and try to change your job environment. Apparently find an environment which you more comfortable with.

I definitely would give USLM a shot. Only if I can afford it... Oh well, it will have to wait, at least until I can afford it. (Which can be a month to several months of wait.)

Unfortunately, there is next to nothing, if not nothing, I can do to change the job environment. I don't know if USLM has reality bending in it, but if it does, that may help change the situation. It seems bending reality or some sort of miracle by some outside force is the only thing that can meaningfully change the terrible situation for the better.

As mentioned previously, I am doing this as a part of military conscription, and the place I am put in is not something I chose to be in. In a brief summary, I got exempt from active military duty, due to having dysthyma, (well that was the diagnosis I got here, but I don't trust that diagnosis much, as it was the briefest psych test I ever got. Besides, the bigger issue I have is high functioning autism, and I believe dysthyma is one of symptoms that come from high functioning autism. Oddly, I never got any tests for autism for the military psych exam. It was a little better than basic formality.), but I am instead required to serve in the social service corp. This was not done by a choice. (In fact, you have no choice in whether to be part of social service corp, and where you'd be placed in as a member of social service corp.)

If I had any choice, I would not have come back before I finished my master's degree (BTW, I only had one requirement which was capstone requirement, and that got ruined mainly due to the military conscription. Yes, my master's degree got wrecked, thanks to the obligation imposed on me by a country I was born in.). Actually let me rephrase. I probably would not have come back in the first place. I feel that I fit better with the Western culture and attitude than the culture of where I am now.

Anyway, I appreciate your sharing thought, Zane, and I would definitely give USLM a go. Right now, I am somewhat lost in what to do with my life. (I only have to do this till February 2020, and I don't plan on stop living by then.) I believe USLM may potentially help me figure that out. That would be golden.

Based on Shannon's response, I'm going to stop listening to DMSI. (That is at least until I am done with this obligation.) After 35 days, well, more like beginning the end of January 2019, I am going to start listening to LTU, (which I got during the sale), or USLM, if I can afford it.

Thank you guys for helping me save myself from potential disaster, and save time.

[sw72hw]

Well, I didn't plan on ending this journal so soon, but this will be my last report on DMSI 3.3 D for the reasons implied in previous posts.

Anyway, I noticed a few things, I'd like to mention.

1. Dogs' response. I think I saw two, maybe three dogs today. All of them were staring at me. If my memory serves me correctly, this was also observed in my run with previous DMSI versions.

2. More friendly response from older women. The place I currently work to fulfill the military conscription is sorta like a community center, but it is a government office. Think of it like a mini version of city hall, but also acts as a community center. There really isn't something like this in the US. Anyway, one of the task I am charged is to go up to a multipurpose room, close the windows, shut down the light, and close the door. The room is also a place in which cultural and social programs for community members are held. Most of the people who attend these programs are old people, and many of them old women. (Old as in mostly 50s.) This time, I went up and the ladies (this time it was all women's dance class.) were staying behind to practice for the end of the year performance. I waited a bit, they were done, they came out. They were more friendly than usual. For instance, people usually leave paper cups behind, and I usually pick them up. Previously, people would respond nothing even if they saw me doing the thing. This time, all the ladies who were there (and yes all of them were either in 50s or 60s) saying bad things to a person who left a cup behind, and they were like, oh we'll pick them up afterwards, even though it isn't our doing. One of them were like, well think of the ones who left behind the cup like your mom who left behind. (Okay, my mom's age would be close to or maybe older than them, but she always cleans up afterwards.) In other words, don't think too harshly of the people.
This was unusually friendly and warm response. I found their responses interesting.

3. More internal positivity. Okay, other than main tasks (I have a few more of those other than cleaning up that room.) I am also called to heavy lifting quite a lot. It's not that I am strong, but it is one thing social service corp members do. (Here's a gap. The nation, or the high level of military command and government didn't place us to do physical labor, or basically do what warehouse employees would do, delivering stuff, heavy stuff such as calcium chloride for road, rice, and etc.) The worst problem? I had developed inflammation on my rotator cuff muscles on both shoulders, developed inflammation on either ligaments or tendons on both my arms. (Well, there is no distinction between the two in the language of this country. Therefore, I am not sure which would be the case) And guess what? I get to still do that physical labor and heavy lifting on pretty much daily basis! Oh and because of this, I had to stop exercising, trying to get myself into shape. (Maybe I should get Maximum Healing speed sometime and run it..... But would that be a good idea, given that I will probably need to do more physical labor?) Besides, my strength is in brain, not in my physical body. Anyway, because of this issue, I had built up all the frustration, negativity, and such. I suppose anybody would given the situation that the person is forced to do heavy lifting even when he/she has injured his/her arms very severely. Today was not that different in the situation. (It was a bit easier today, but it was not the easiest day.) However, the negative thoughts and feelings were much less, and feeling good (definitely not about the situation, but feeling good in general) was definitely there.

It's been only 4 days (today would be the fifth days, if I would listen), but I think I already see some results. These maybe too nuanced to call it concrete result or proof that DMSI is working, but I think and feel that they show that the program's working, at least to a degree. (Full blast of DMSI would be amusing, but could be very troublesome in my situation. Therefore, nuanced results are not bad.)


Anyway, this would be my last report of DMSI 3.3 D. (At least till February 2020, but I suppose we may then get an upgrade or a totally new DMSI then?) In a month and a week or two, I shall come back with either LTU or USLM. So much time to wait for just listening to 4 days of a sub.

[Shannon]

MHS can work for people who are actively using the things that need healing, but it will of course degrade the performance of the healing significantly.

In your shoes, I would go for USLM3/4 ASAP. My cycle is not like your military conscription but it does put me in a bad position where no matter what I do, there is failure, frustration and delay. Even doing nothing at all causes more problems. The only thing that can be done is, while I have the energy (because at it's worst, the cycle brings me to a point of uselessly exhausted), to try to keep going.

I created USLM v1, 2 and 3 to help me make it through this when I had months to go but had run out of hope and drive. It has worked. V3 does something very interesting, where it will start off making me more tired, and then within 20-40 minutes I can feel it powering itself with some other source of energy. It makes me get in this zone of "Nothing else matters, we are going to succeed, and that's all there is to it." And it does.

If you have to save up for USLM, you might as well save and get USLM4, which will have FRM 4.x in it. Unless I figure out 5.0 before then.

USLM may actually be a way you could set a goal like finding a positive way out of conscription much sooner than you would have otherwise, and have it happen. I'm not guaranteeing that would happen, but given how it works and what it does, that does seem like a possible result if you set it as a goal. That is why I suggest it.

Worst case scenario, you can use it to help you heal faster, for example, and achieve some other important goal. The mindset it gives is priceless in what would otherwise be depressing, hopeless situations.

[Omni3]

Well, I didn't plan on ending this journal so soon, but this will be my last report on DMSI 3.3 D for the reasons implied in previous posts.

Anyway, I noticed a few things, I'd like to mention.

1. Dogs' response. I think I saw two, maybe three dogs today. All of them were staring at me. If my memory serves me correctly, this was also observed in my run with previous DMSI versions.

2. More friendly response from older women. The place I currently work to fulfill the military conscription is sorta like a community center, but it is a government office. Think of it like a mini version of city hall, but also acts as a community center. There really isn't something like this in the US. Anyway, one of the task I am charged is to go up to a multipurpose room, close the windows, shut down the light, and close the door. The room is also a place in which cultural and social programs for community members are held. Most of the people who attend these programs are old people, and many of them old women. (Old as in mostly 50s.) This time, I went up and the ladies (this time it was all women's dance class.) were staying behind to practice for the end of the year performance. I waited a bit, they were done, they came out. They were more friendly than usual. For instance, people usually leave paper cups behind, and I usually pick them up. Previously, people would respond nothing even if they saw me doing the thing. This time, all the ladies who were there (and yes all of them were either in 50s or 60s) saying bad things to a person who left a cup behind, and they were like, oh we'll pick them up afterwards, even though it isn't our doing. One of them were like, well think of the ones who left behind the cup like your mom who left behind. (Okay, my mom's age would be close to or maybe older than them, but she always cleans up afterwards.) In other words, don't think too harshly of the people.
This was unusually friendly and warm response. I found their responses interesting.

3. More internal positivity. Okay, other than main tasks (I have a few more of those other than cleaning up that room.) I am also called to heavy lifting quite a lot. It's not that I am strong, but it is one thing social service corp members do. (Here's a gap. The nation, or the high level of military command and government didn't place us to do physical labor, or basically do what warehouse employees would do, delivering stuff, heavy stuff such as calcium chloride for road, rice, and etc.) The worst problem? I had developed inflammation on my rotator cuff muscles on both shoulders, developed inflammation on either ligaments or tendons on both my arms. (Well, there is no distinction between the two in the language of this country. Therefore, I am not sure which would be the case) And guess what? I get to still do that physical labor and heavy lifting on pretty much daily basis! Oh and because of this, I had to stop exercising, trying to get myself into shape. (Maybe I should get Maximum Healing speed sometime and run it..... But would that be a good idea, given that I will probably need to do more physical labor?) Besides, my strength is in brain, not in my physical body. Anyway, because of this issue, I had built up all the frustration, negativity, and such. I suppose anybody would given the situation that the person is forced to do heavy lifting even when he/she has injured his/her arms very severely. Today was not that different in the situation. (It was a bit easier today, but it was not the easiest day.) However, the negative thoughts and feelings were much less, and feeling good (definitely not about the situation, but feeling good in general) was definitely there.

It's been only 4 days (today would be the fifth days, if I would listen), but I think I already see some results. These maybe too nuanced to call it concrete result or proof that DMSI is working, but I think and feel that they show that the program's working, at least to a degree. (Full blast of DMSI would be amusing, but could be very troublesome in my situation. Therefore, nuanced results are not bad.)


Anyway, this would be my last report of DMSI 3.3 D. (At least till February 2020, but I suppose we may then get an upgrade or a totally new DMSI then?) In a month and a week or two, I shall come back with either LTU or USLM. So much time to wait for just listening to 4 days of a sub.

Based on what Shannon just said this video comes to mind and may serve as inspiration as well as a way to help you with your goal setting/manifestion. The title can be misleading but the content is spot on, particularly for your situation:

https://youtu.be/9m_UY4LmYig

[sw72hw]

MHS can work for people who are actively using the things that need healing, but it will of course degrade the performance of the healing significantly.

In your shoes, I would go for USLM3/4 ASAP. My cycle is not like your military conscription but it does put me in a bad position where no matter what I do, there is failure, frustration and delay. Even doing nothing at all causes more problems. The only thing that can be done is, while I have the energy (because at it's worst, the cycle brings me to a point of uselessly exhausted), to try to keep going.

I created USLM v1, 2 and 3 to help me make it through this when I had months to go but had run out of hope and drive. It has worked. V3 does something very interesting, where it will start off making me more tired, and then within 20-40 minutes I can feel it powering itself with some other source of energy. It makes me get in this zone of "Nothing else matters, we are going to succeed, and that's all there is to it." And it does.

If you have to save up for USLM, you might as well save and get USLM4, which will have FRM 4.x in it. Unless I figure out 5.0 before then.

USLM may actually be a way you could set a goal like finding a positive way out of conscription much sooner than you would have otherwise, and have it happen. I'm not guaranteeing that would happen, but given how it works and what it does, that does seem like a possible result if you set it as a goal. That is why I suggest it.

Worst case scenario, you can use it to help you heal faster, for example, and achieve some other important goal. The mindset it gives is priceless in what would otherwise be depressing, hopeless situations.

Dear Shannon,

Thank you for sharing your story, and recommendation to run USLM. As I mentioned, I need to save up to get USLM. My salary would increase in a while, but I am currently making approximately $450~500 a month for doing the full time job at the moment. (It started with like $350~400 ish.) Oh and about $350~400 goes into monthly installment savings, which I cannot withdraw until I am done with the military duty. (It's not a bad deal, as I believe I'd be getting 6 to maybe 7% interest rate, by the end.) So yeah, I'm pretty low with cash after I just spent quite much on the three 6 stage sets and a few other subs on sale.

Since you brought up USLM 4, I have two questions to ask. First, let's say I saved up money to purchase USLM, and I purchased USLM3 before USLM 4 came out. Would I get an upgrade to USLM4 or that's not how it works with USLM? (Sorry, it's pretty recent I came back.)

Second, do you have any estimates on when you would be able to release USLM 4? (I know that your estimates can be quite off from actual release date, but still, I sorta want to make an estimate to whether I will need to determine between v3 and v4.)

Given that I have run DMSI 3.3D for 4 days, and given that I need to take 35 days of break, the earliest time I can start running USLM would be late January. (Assuming that I will have enough money by then) Would it be possible to have USLM 4 come out then?

[Shannon]

There will not be a free upgrade from v3 of USLM to v4. That is why I said it would be a good idea to save up for v4. I gave free upgrades for v2 and v3, but that of course brings in no money and in the end, I have to keep the business afloat or nobody benefits.

I am going to try to have LTU built within the next 1 to 3 weeks, and at that point, building USLM4 will be a simple matter of turning off all of the script that isn't USLM4 and rebuilding. So USLM4, E3,. UMOP3, etc which are developed in LTU 5.5G will be relatively quick to build.

It may take me longer to build LTU, but my goal is to have it out before the end of December.

[sw72hw]

I never thought that I would come back to write an update for this journal as I have quit DMSI for USLM 4. Yet, here I am.

Last usage of DMSI would have been around Dec 13, 2018, so it would be roughly around 35 days away since my last listening to DMSI 3.3D. However, last week or so or more specifically last two days have been interesting for DMSI front.

First of all, I am noticing too much sexual pressure built up. I have masturbated on daily basis for last few days, but the pressure hasn't been released. Very odd, and it is first time that I had to deal with the pressure since I was a teenager. (Well, teenager time was worse, as I would get a random erection when I am walking down a street.)

Second, perhaps because of the first issue, I am starting to see the girls at work more attractive. Basically, those who were considered as unfuckable (due to not seeing them attractive), now turning fuckable based on their physical attractiveness. I am starting to notice that they have better body than I originally thought (i.e. bigger and bouncier breasts (perhaps bra?), more attractive legs and waist, prettier face and etc than I originally thought). This is interesting, but worrisome, as I'd definitely not want to get in complicated situation at work for various reasons mentioned in the earlier posts.

Third, I am seeing more polarizing effects. Some girls have gone completely cold, meaning I am pretty none existent for them, (funny though, one of them just turned to top three attractive one at the work (this doesn't mean she's top 3 of all the ones I have seen in my life)), while some other girls (there's one in particular), who have become rather too comfortable approaching me and asking me a favor. I suppose this can be a good sign in an ordinary situation, but in my current situation, it is considered as a bad thing. (It basically equates to more unnecessary work.) Girls gone completely cold started a few weeks ago (maybe a month or a bit longer), while the girl becoming more comfortable started maybe a week ago, or a few days ago.

Perhaps these are nothing, but they can be something related to DMSI. Therefore, I wanted to share it. If it is related to DMSI or caused by DMSI, it is very interesting as the observed effect is quite strong (perhaps even stronger than when I was running DMSI 3.3D for a few days.).

Anyway, I hope that USLM4 comes out soon, though I wish I could affor and run the next version of LTU (it will sadly be too expensive for me to afford). I got a few things that can be worked on for sure. For a starter, getting out of this conscription much earlier would be a very nice one. And it would definitely require luck maximization as getting out of this conscription without trouble would require a miracle.