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[RTBoss]

Did you check the md5 values of the file you're using and compare it the the values on the 3.1 md5 values.txt? If the values don't match, you need to redownload the file.

Are you using speakers or headphones? Have you checked to make sure your speakers or headphones are rated for 20 khz or greater?

Have you tried using the other file formats? Just ultrasonic or masked? I have mixed them up in the past to great success as well. (ie 1 hybrid followed by 1 masked).

You may also want to experiment with higher loops... Like 7 or 8. Then you could return back to 2 and see if you start executing.

How do I check the md5 values of my file? I know there's a tutorial floating around here somewhere on the boards but I cannot for the life of me find it anywhere right now...

I use a program called MD5Checker on my PC. Easy-to-use, merely drag and drop the file. On my phone, I use ES File Explorer.

[Smuggler]

I switched back to A yesterday and I think I will stay on for a while now. So I must of done 7-9 loops over the course of the day, mixture of US/masked tracks. I had at least 3 dreams that I can recall, one mildly sexual/romantic in nature I and don't feel anymore tired than before. I'm guessing the dreams mean something is working, they all involved real life people that I know personally. Perhaps i'm just a person that needs more loops as I didn't really have any dreams that I could remember on DMSI up until this point.

RTBoss, you mentioned returning back to 2 loops at some point, how would this work exactly?

Thanks for the help guys.

You just run 2 loops the next time you run DMSI instead of 7-9 loops.

What I meant was what is the reasoning behind it? Why not stay on 7-9 loops?

[Shawn]

I switched back to A yesterday and I think I will stay on for a while now. So I must of done 7-9 loops over the course of the day, mixture of US/masked tracks. I had at least 3 dreams that I can recall, one mildly sexual/romantic in nature I and don't feel anymore tired than before. I'm guessing the dreams mean something is working, they all involved real life people that I know personally. Perhaps i'm just a person that needs more loops as I didn't really have any dreams that I could remember on DMSI up until this point.

RTBoss, you mentioned returning back to 2 loops at some point, how would this work exactly?

Thanks for the help guys.

You just run 2 loops the next time you run DMSI instead of 7-9 loops.

What I meant was what is the reasoning behind it? Why not stay on 7-9 loops?

2 loops is the official direction from Shannon. He just opened this for experimenting because V3.2 took longer as expected.

[RTBoss]

I switched back to A yesterday and I think I will stay on for a while now. So I must of done 7-9 loops over the course of the day, mixture of US/masked tracks. I had at least 3 dreams that I can recall, one mildly sexual/romantic in nature I and don't feel anymore tired than before. I'm guessing the dreams mean something is working, they all involved real life people that I know personally. Perhaps i'm just a person that needs more loops as I didn't really have any dreams that I could remember on DMSI up until this point.

RTBoss, you mentioned returning back to 2 loops at some point, how would this work exactly?

Thanks for the help guys.

You just run 2 loops the next time you run DMSI instead of 7-9 loops.

What I meant was what is the reasoning behind it? Why not stay on 7-9 loops?

2 loops is the official direction from Shannon. He just opened this for experimenting because V3.2 took longer as expected.

Furthermore, more loops can theoretically create a "backlog" of processing your brain would have to catch up on. If there's too much data "in queue" to process, you'll find yourself using up all your energy processing and never executing. Going back to 2 loops, if you have a backlog, would allow you to free up processing power to execute the script. This may also be why there is a "bloom," after stopping a subliminal. Your mind shifts completely from "processing mode" to "execution mode."

[CatMan]

Furthermore, more loops can theoretically create a "backlog" of processing your brain would have to catch up on. If there's too much data "in queue" to process, you'll find yourself using up all your energy processing and never executing. Going back to 2 loops, if you have a backlog, would allow you to free up processing power to execute the script. This may also be why there is a "bloom," after stopping a subliminal. Your mind shifts completely from "processing mode" to "execution mode."

The backlog theory is EXACTLY what I've often thought of. On the same page as me, brother.

It's why I scaled back to 2 loops. And I feel good here, seems to be the best compromise for me. I had patience, and awaited either a breakthrough, or a new version, whichever came first.

[RTBoss]

Furthermore, more loops can theoretically create a "backlog" of processing your brain would have to catch up on. If there's too much data "in queue" to process, you'll find yourself using up all your energy processing and never executing. Going back to 2 loops, if you have a backlog, would allow you to free up processing power to execute the script. This may also be why there is a "bloom," after stopping a subliminal. Your mind shifts completely from "processing mode" to "execution mode."

The backlog theory is EXACTLY what I've often thought of. On the same page as me, brother.

It's why I scaled back to 2 loops. And I feel good here, seems to be the best compromise for me. I had patience, and awaited either a breakthrough, or a new version, whichever came first.

Didn't you see "glimmers of hope" when you ran 2.5, Catman? That was a no H&C version. I seriously think, if you saw some benefit there, you should try 21 days of 3.1-B.

[CatMan]

Furthermore, more loops can theoretically create a "backlog" of processing your brain would have to catch up on. If there's too much data "in queue" to process, you'll find yourself using up all your energy processing and never executing. Going back to 2 loops, if you have a backlog, would allow you to free up processing power to execute the script. This may also be why there is a "bloom," after stopping a subliminal. Your mind shifts completely from "processing mode" to "execution mode."

The backlog theory is EXACTLY what I've often thought of. On the same page as me, brother.

It's why I scaled back to 2 loops. And I feel good here, seems to be the best compromise for me. I had patience, and awaited either a breakthrough, or a new version, whichever came first.

Didn't you see "glimmers of hope" when you ran 2.5, Catman? That was a no H&C version. I seriously think, if you saw some benefit there, you should try 21 days of 3.1-B.

Hmm, I can't recall. I'd have to go back to my old V2.5 offline journal to see.

I did an experiment of B for Shannon on this one, V3.1, much earlier on.

It surprisingly felt the same as A I think. I've heard the stories of it, so that was eye raising to me. That likely means not too much of it was being executed. At least on A the H&C should be to try to move things forward.

I feel A should give me the chance to get H&C, so until I start seeing more blatant signs of girls responding to it, I think A may be my best bet. I'll leave B to the pros for now, lol!

[RTBoss]

Furthermore, more loops can theoretically create a "backlog" of processing your brain would have to catch up on. If there's too much data "in queue" to process, you'll find yourself using up all your energy processing and never executing. Going back to 2 loops, if you have a backlog, would allow you to free up processing power to execute the script. This may also be why there is a "bloom," after stopping a subliminal. Your mind shifts completely from "processing mode" to "execution mode."

The backlog theory is EXACTLY what I've often thought of. On the same page as me, brother.

It's why I scaled back to 2 loops. And I feel good here, seems to be the best compromise for me. I had patience, and awaited either a breakthrough, or a new version, whichever came first.

Didn't you see "glimmers of hope" when you ran 2.5, Catman? That was a no H&C version. I seriously think, if you saw some benefit there, you should try 21 days of 3.1-B.

Hmm, I can't recall. I'd have to go back to my old V2.5 offline journal to see.

I did an experiment of B for Shannon on this one, V3.1, much earlier on.

It surprisingly felt the same as A I think. I've heard the stories of it, so that was eye raising to me. That likely means not too much of it was being executed. At least on A the H&C should be to try to move things forward.

I feel A should give me the chance to get H&C, so until I start seeing more blatant signs of girls responding to it, I think A may be my best bet. I'll leave B to the pros for now, lol!

You barely ran B for a week, IIRC?

You need to get this H&C thing off your mind. Even Shannon said, after running B, that H&C still happens - just by brute force. I concur. Duke would cocur (pipe up Duke, if you're around!). Ben, what'd you think? Anyway, I'm going to throw out the resistance and fear card, here. I think your subc is afraid B might work, so you're just avoiding it.

Anyway, do something different...unless you feel like you're legit making headway, day-in-and-out? Otherwise, you're just spinning your wheels.

[CatMan]

Furthermore, more loops can theoretically create a "backlog" of processing your brain would have to catch up on. If there's too much data "in queue" to process, you'll find yourself using up all your energy processing and never executing. Going back to 2 loops, if you have a backlog, would allow you to free up processing power to execute the script. This may also be why there is a "bloom," after stopping a subliminal. Your mind shifts completely from "processing mode" to "execution mode."

The backlog theory is EXACTLY what I've often thought of. On the same page as me, brother.

It's why I scaled back to 2 loops. And I feel good here, seems to be the best compromise for me. I had patience, and awaited either a breakthrough, or a new version, whichever came first.

Didn't you see "glimmers of hope" when you ran 2.5, Catman? That was a no H&C version. I seriously think, if you saw some benefit there, you should try 21 days of 3.1-B.

Hmm, I can't recall. I'd have to go back to my old V2.5 offline journal to see.

I did an experiment of B for Shannon on this one, V3.1, much earlier on.

It surprisingly felt the same as A I think. I've heard the stories of it, so that was eye raising to me. That likely means not too much of it was being executed. At least on A the H&C should be to try to move things forward.

I feel A should give me the chance to get H&C, so until I start seeing more blatant signs of girls responding to it, I think A may be my best bet. I'll leave B to the pros for now, lol!

You barely ran B for a week, IIRC?

You need to get this H&C thing off your mind. Even Shannon said, after running B, that H&C still happens - just by brute force. I concur. Duke would cocur (pipe up Duke, if you're around!). Ben, what'd you think? Anyway, I'm going to throw out the resistance and fear card, here. I think your subc is afraid B might work, so you're just avoiding it.

Anyway, do something different...unless you feel like you're legit making headway, day-in-and-out? Otherwise, you're just spinning your wheels.

I'm using the version designed to actively go after the issues that cause resistance as a focus. So my mind fears the program will work...so it's using the version best able to handle the resistance issues to MAKE it work? I don't follow that. I just know I have a lot of crap in my mind to deal with, A LOT, so A is what I want to focus on. Others like B? Great. Bet they have a lot less crap in their mind to combat. I wish I did as well but it's clear to me I may have a lot more than I even thought to deal with judging by several of my dreams.

I'm struggling to see solid results with girls on A, so switching to B makes no sense to me at this point. At least the H&C can work on me to pave the way, A is the way forward for me it seems. A person can get the same external results on A that a person can on B. I don't see any downside to me to stick with A until I see true execution. That was my original plan anyway, sticking with A and getting rid of enough garbage from my past to get serious results on it for at least 6 full months. THEN I'd consider switching to B. I have too much crap in my mind from all the years of awfulness with girls, I want to keep purging it, otherwise I won't move forward. Better than wasting my time resisting/stonewalling B, which is probably what happened and why I felt nothing really on it. Resisting constantly has been enough of an aggravation on A already...

I know guys like B and that's awesome. Rock on to those that can get results they're happy with on it. It's clear I either need A or an upgraded program version which will happen in time. I noticed no difference in B as I said, so I likely wasn't executing much of it if at all.

I think I could very slowly be seeing some forward momentum. It's very hard to tell often. I do sometimes get dreams that are relevant to the script. Some stuff when out or with people, at times I wonder afterwards if it was something worth noting etc.

I don't want to try to be hasty and switch for no reason. The whole external thing is off in the distance for me for the time being, I'm fine with that, I accept that. I'm happy staying with A until V3.2. As I continue getting more time in, and better versions come along, sticking with A should remove enough crap that I can get this thing functioning better. I hope!

[RTBoss]

The backlog theory is EXACTLY what I've often thought of. On the same page as me, brother.

It's why I scaled back to 2 loops. And I feel good here, seems to be the best compromise for me. I had patience, and awaited either a breakthrough, or a new version, whichever came first.

Didn't you see "glimmers of hope" when you ran 2.5, Catman? That was a no H&C version. I seriously think, if you saw some benefit there, you should try 21 days of 3.1-B.

Hmm, I can't recall. I'd have to go back to my old V2.5 offline journal to see.

I did an experiment of B for Shannon on this one, V3.1, much earlier on.

It surprisingly felt the same as A I think. I've heard the stories of it, so that was eye raising to me. That likely means not too much of it was being executed. At least on A the H&C should be to try to move things forward.

I feel A should give me the chance to get H&C, so until I start seeing more blatant signs of girls responding to it, I think A may be my best bet. I'll leave B to the pros for now, lol!

You barely ran B for a week, IIRC?

You need to get this H&C thing off your mind. Even Shannon said, after running B, that H&C still happens - just by brute force. I concur. Duke would cocur (pipe up Duke, if you're around!). Ben, what'd you think? Anyway, I'm going to throw out the resistance and fear card, here. I think your subc is afraid B might work, so you're just avoiding it.

Anyway, do something different...unless you feel like you're legit making headway, day-in-and-out? Otherwise, you're just spinning your wheels.

I'm using the version designed to actively go after the issues that cause resistance as a focus. So my mind fears the program will work...so it's using the version best able to handle the resistance issues to MAKE it work? I don't follow that. I just know I have a lot of crap in my mind to deal with, A LOT, so A is what I want to focus on. Others like B? Great. Bet they have a lot less crap in their mind to combat. I wish I did as well but it's clear to me I may have a lot more than I even thought to deal with judging by several of my dreams.

I'm struggling to see solid results with girls on A, so switching to B makes no sense to me at this point. At least the H&C can work on me to pave the way, A is the way forward for me it seems. A person can get the same external results on A that a person can on B. I don't see any downside to me to stick with A until I see true execution. That was my original plan anyway, sticking with A and getting rid of enough garbage from my past to get serious results on it for at least 6 full months. THEN I'd consider switching to B. I have too much crap in my mind from all the years of awfulness with girls, I want to keep purging it, otherwise I won't move forward. Better than wasting my time resisting/stonewalling B, which is probably what happened and why I felt nothing really on it. Resisting constantly has been enough of an aggravation on A already...

I know guys like B and that's awesome. Rock on to those that can get results they're happy with on it. It's clear I either need A or an upgraded program version which will happen in time. I noticed no difference in B as I said, so I likely wasn't executing much of it if at all.

I think I could very slowly be seeing some forward momentum. It's very hard to tell often. I do sometimes get dreams that are relevant to the script. Some stuff when out or with people, at times I wonder afterwards if it was something worth noting etc.

I don't want to try to be hasty and switch for no reason. The whole external thing is off in the distance for me for the time being, I'm fine with that, I accept that. I'm happy staying with A until V3.2. As I continue getting more time in, and better versions come along, sticking with A should remove enough crap that I can get this thing functioning better. I hope!

You always have an excuse. Good luck to you. Just stick with what doesn't work, and don't try anything else. Whatever, dude. You've been on A for fuckin' ever. Try something else. It's your life, your decision, but I don't have much respect for your lack of results when you don't do much to change it up.

EDIT:
And by the way, please take my attitude with a grain of salt. While I still feel this way - I'm sure I could word it nicer - I've had a bad day of sorts, and I'm blowing off steam on the forum. So anyway, I'm being a bit of a dick. But I still wanna say what I said, lol.

[CatMan]

Holy shit man...wow.

I'm happy with A.

I have a lot of issues it handles in a direct fashion.

It's my path forward, I know that now. Others don't have my issues and can do great with B, I'm happy for them.

Unfortunate I don't get "respect" because of that.

Yeah...I can see that. Hope things improve for you soon, bro.

[Dilettante]

@catman: did you ever do WM? just curious.

[RTBoss]

I love how you doubled down. You're so stubborn, you just dig your heels in so you can be "right." Yes, it's difficult to respect that. As for your "wins" you actually attribute to DMSI 3.1 - A, I guess I'm having trouble recalling all this progress you've had with it? Is it the fapping issue, ED, or other sexual issues? Or is there more we haven't heard about?

My day has improved considerably, thanks.

[RTBoss]

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