DMSI 2.3 so far so good

[Dzemoo]

its really hard to know what to think about dmsi 2.3 also there are so many different opinions which version worked best

i cheated tonight because i felt depressed i started stage 1 of wm imidiatly i got this calm loving hopeful feeling inside me today before work my gf came i negged the shit out of her she was very submissive and called me asshole several times i was again the dominant one, but she said several times you are an asshole and pervert but also said she never laughed that much... no sex this morning


on dmsi she was the dominant one and i the submissive but she always initiated sex

you see all subs have their pros and cons and their are unperfect because shanon is a human being and humans are unperfect...

right now dont know what to do or to run

to be the indifferent zombie pussy sexobject on dmsi

or to be the asshole player type of guy women resist so much

[SargeMaximus]

Maybe you just need to learn how to use your new powers?

I was wondering, how many AM runs have you done?

But it's not as bad as you say because you cheated on that girl and that';s not very submissive is it?

[Dzemoo]

Maybe you just need to learn how to use your new powers?

I was wondering, how many AM runs have you done?

But it's not as bad as you say because you cheated on that girl and that';s not very submissive is it?

haha yeah its a pseudo submission i dont care being dominant on her you become a little man whore on dmsi

its really different you have to unlearn all pua skills on this sub and just let the women do all the work not get in arguments with her because you seem too high status for any women it will take time for me to unlearn game and just go with the flow and let the women dominate

i think this sub needs a long time to implement all changes but everyone is getting strong resistance and yeah its like you say sarge its not that bad we should be a little more grateful for this subs

[Dzemoo]

Update: did one loop in the afternoon ate choclate

When suddenly my father screamed at me lol, he said why are you so arrogant lol i just looked at him and got up leaving to my flat

On the way to the tobacco shop a lot of hate from men and jealousy from men i could see it in their eyes

In the tobacco shop two women in their 40s stared at me one looked at my body all the time the other one was cery friendly never so friendly before suddenly the one of them says 'my god you look so good' the other women started to laugh she said ' what my daughter would marry him instantly' i said thank you and left

[SargeMaximus]

So, men jealous and women attracted. Looks like you're on the right track again lol.

[Dzemoo]

yeah the only thing is i get abused and sexually used by my gf

at first she was cute and wanted sex i rejected her and she went mad gave me a big drama that i am a pussy and not a real man and even said she wants to break up because i am not a real man setting boundaries lol i couldnt help but laugh at this then she calmed down when i said than break up... she said she doesnt want me to treat her like a dog lol

than we had sex she came before me (so hard to cum on dmsi) and just wanted to stop without me finishing had to command and force her to finish me ....

she also said i am arrogant and only think about myself


i want to break up with her but dont know if this is the right way ? what do you guys think?

or should i initiate drama and punish her back,.... she even cried but it looked like she is playing she said i am mentally ill and that she wants to help me and that my father is right and that i am arrogant and only think of myself she wants to heal me but i dont let her lol

[SargeMaximus]

yeah the only thing is i get abused and sexually used by my gf

at first she was cute and wanted sex i rejected her and she went mad gave me a big drama that i am a pussy and not a real man and even said she wants to break up because i am not a real man setting boundaries lol i couldnt help but laugh at this then she calmed down when i said than break up... she said she doesnt want me to treat her like a dog lol

than we had sex she came before me (so hard to cum on dmsi) and just wanted to stop without me finishing had to command and force her to finish me ....

she also said i am arrogant and only think about myself


i want to break up with her but dont know if this is the right way ? what do you guys think?

or should i initiate drama and punish her back,.... she even cried but it looked like she is playing she said i am mentally ill and that she wants to help me and that my father is right and that i am arrogant and only think of myself she wants to heal me but i dont let her lol

Sounds like a boundaries issue to me. If she's using you for sex when you don't want it but you're letting her, yeah, definitely boundaries.

And why, when you can get pretty much any girl you want, do you jump into a relationship so fast?

As for how to break up with her, I'd just stop seeing her, but I'm also a virgin with no experience so, don't listen to me lol.

[Dzemoo]

yeah its a problem because i seem to have no boundaries on dmsi she said she wants boundaries from me (but i dont care about boundaries or controlling her)

she also said she think i am under some spell oder black magic and she wants to help me with a friend of her lol

i cant believe my life right now

[SargeMaximus]

yeah its a problem because i seem to have no boundaries on dmsi she said she wants boundaries from me (but i dont care about boundaries or controlling her)

she also said she think i am under some spell oder black magic and she wants to help me with a friend of her lol

i cant believe my life right now

Boundaries aren't about controlling other people, they're about saying "no" when you want to. So, if she wants to have sex but you don't, you say no, and hold firm. If she gives you drama, walk away.

Have you read any of Blackdragon's stuff? It might help. He's big on no drama relationships. I honestly think it's probably the next level for you.

[Dzemoo]

yeah i did sarge but this alphaness is not in me right now i dont feel like this i dont know what to do like you say i could have any other girl why should i stick to her i feel like she wants to make a fool out of me

i cant get myself to set boundaries to a women i dont love ....

[SargeMaximus]

yeah i did sarge but this alphaness is not in me right now i dont feel like this i dont know what to do like you say i could have any other girl why should i stick to her i feel like she wants to make a fool out of me

Maybe she does. In either case, it's probably best to just leave her and never look back. Is there a reason why you're staying? I have to admit, it seems very weird to me that you not only got in the relationship so fast, but that you won't leave.

i cant get myself to set boundaries to a women i dont love ....

That's odd, I have the exact opposite problem lol.

[Dzemoo]

yeah i agree its weird but i saw it as a manifestation you know how often i complained not having a relationship

but i am just a different person now on dmsi

this subs are making us crazy because we have subs we dont care about having character anymore my character changes from sub to sub lol

[SargeMaximus]

yeah i agree its weird but i saw it as a manifestation you know how often i complained not having a relationship

but i am just a different person now on dmsi

this subs are making us crazy because we have subs we dont care about having character anymore my character changes from sub to sub lol

Sorry for the late reply, my Internet is acting up and I had to go do sales. Doing this on my phone now lol.

I think that's an important point you bring up about having character. It's true the temptation to assume we don't need anything but subs is great but you gotta look at the results your getting. It's like me and learning from a social skills coach. Itd be easy to just say everyone else has the problem because I've used am however many times, but there are some things that are required for relationships especially.

[Dzemoo]

yeah you are right sarge

short update motivation is growing after the first tiredness pass 5.5 g is no joke

i use mstack from animal it has the red energy pill with koala nut extract for energy its good

and yes nictoin is lessening the effect shanon was right

men are a little insecure girls too but i can clearly see their attraction growing it just needs more time and adjustment also i am much more confident and outgoing autopilot is doing its work in letting me doing things that show that i am alpha and not scared

this sub is more powerfull than all multistages 5.5 g really makes a difference

i will test this sub long term this sub switching i see in most users are wrong and fucks up the brain an results

this subs feels like the feeling i get when i studied pua stuff for hours its a feeling like yeah i will get their and everything is in control really good feeling didnt had it on other subs so far

girls from my neighbourhood look and act very interested in me asking me questions guys are more direct and say "you look fresh man" girls that rejected me looked shocked like "wtf how could i reject such a sexy motherfucker "

my need to dress better improved got a new haircut also care more about my body and hygiene just like am6

motivation to change life for the better is there

other popular alpha guys want to keep up with my sexiness but they cant because my sexiness is in 5.5 g