[Fonzy3]

I am not intentionally bringing this topic up to stir drama. And this is no way intended as an offense to IML. Just a suggestion.

As it has been discussed in the past it can be quite common for a person to trigger the AP code. By accidentally having copies of it or downloading the torrent of saving money at first.

I do not condone using the subs illegally or not paid for. And I just wish everyone in this community success.

But there have been reports of an entire forum like ours that is set up to monitor the results of illegally downloaded subs. As the programs are supposed to still work but just "differently" from a legal program.

This make me wonder if there is any real copyright activation for the programs or is it just a scare tactic?

A solution for this would be to have something that differentiates a paid program compared to an illegal.

I do not know if you all have noticed but the programs with the most technology right now sound different from the older gen in store. I'm not sure what technology it is but if you were to listen to a masked track with headphones on full volume you would hear a slight beeping. An indicator like this that the AP code has been activated or deactivated would allow people to take using legitimate subliminals much more seriously.

Let me know your thoughts.

[gelimang]

Yeah I feel it to when I'm using some illegal subs for a while, there's some beep nowhere but its so fast and after that just vanish.

Okay just for brainstorming, I think Shannon put the AP code only to his newest 5gen subs, for his previous work he didn't..
if you wanna real copyright activation, I know some subs product that doin' like that.. they make the product useless 1000% when you start listen it.

[Fonzy3]

I don't support this^. But I just wish there was some way we could tell that it has been activated or deactivated

[CatMan]

Well, I think I can speak on the multiple copies issue Fonzy.

I have a copy of the entire AM6 program on my PC for "daytime listening", and another full set of AM6 on my "night time listening" iPod with my Logitech bed speakers/Sleepphones, as well as a 3rd full set of AM6 on my "out and about/errand listening" iPod. I've had massive changes so far, and am listening an average of 19-20 hours a day, many times 21 hours! So clearly the program is working despite all the sets on the 3 devices.

The only thing I'm noticing, is I stopped dreaming about 2-3 weeks ago, mid stage 4 or so. That's when I switched to new speakers, an upgrade from both speakers on one side, to one on EACH side, and ultrasonic now instead of the previous masked stream. I've tested the speakers and they play the ultrasonic perfectly, but no dreams. This is starting to concern me and I'm wondering if the masked should be played at night instead for me, or if I can do fine with the ultrasonic and the transformation just starts higher up in the subconscious before working it's way down instead of from the bottom upward like the masked would do, and it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. I've contemplated PM'ing Shannon about it, but that's the only issue this far my friend. I feel if AP ruined AM6 for you even if you made legitimate copies for reasons like I have, then I certainly wouldn't have had the results I've had.

People inherently KNOW what they're doing when they're pirating something and stealing, or making legitimate copies for legitimate purposes like myself. So, I feel the AP code is genuine and it serves a good purpose and can easily be real. If Shannon made no money doing this he'd have to eventually stop. That means I no longer get the benefits from his life changing work. So I'm thankful for the AP code. I want Shannon to continue, for his benefit, and more honestly, a somewhat selfish benefit as well.

Tried to be as honest as I can my friend! Hope it helps!

[Fonzy3]

The copies are not an issue for me. I'm more just speaking on the topic as a whole. Let's say you bought US, used it and found that it was so good you want your family member to use it. You put the program on to their device but forget to pay for a new copy hypothetically. Instead of going about your sub progress having forgot you could have realized much sooner if there was some sort of indicator. All we really know right now that the AP code is real is Shannon's warning. If there was something physical that indicated the code was deactivated than you wouldn't have to go 6 months without seeing proper results. I don't really care for the idea that subconsciously we receive messages that we'll have to pay for the program because that could be guilt in general. Wasting six months to remove the code isn't attractive to me either

[CatMan]

The copies are not an issue for me. I'm more just speaking on the topic as a whole. Let's say you bought US, used it and found that it was so good you want your family member to use it. You put the program on to their device but forget to pay for a new copy hypothetically. Instead of going about your sub progress having forgot you could have realized much sooner if there was some sort of indicator. All we really know right now that the AP code is real is Shannon's warning. If there was something physical that indicated the code was deactivated than you wouldn't have to go 6 months without seeing proper results. I don't really care for the idea that subconsciously we receive messages that we'll have to pay for the program because that could be guilt in general. Wasting six months to remove the code isn't attractive to me either

In that instance, Shannon says things will be fine if you give the sub to someone else, and delete all copies of it in your possession, to my understanding based off his post on that. Then, it's effectively "their" sub. One license, one use.

I don't know much more about that situation than that, as I don't intend to give my subs to ANYBODY haha. And I don't think that situation would happen very often thankfully. I'd buy a friend a sub gladly, even AM or BASE or BAMM, but most people I know, save for one, don't believe in subs so it'd be wasted on all but one. And that one has terrible focusing and laziness and awful follow-through on things, even though he's a great friend I care deeply for, I accept him into my life with his strengths and flaws as I have those as well. But as a result of his issues, I doubt he'd finish any of those programs. So I have virtually nobody to pass this onto for now.

I'm planning on being buried with all 3 copies of my subs LMAO! Thousands of years from now, they'll excavate me, and learn all about Shannon's genius WAY before his time hahaha.

[Fonzy3]

Alright man. But there are what 7 downloads for each program we buy from the subliminal shop for zip and the three tracks. For those of us who give subliminals as gifts it could be accidental in regards missing out on clearing the downloads we have. This is where the indication of ap code would come handy. Maybe a small solution to this would be having gift cards more available to the public. But any scenario where the ap code could be involved would be a cleared issue if there was some indication of activation...

[CatMan]

I'm just quoting what I know is all pal.

Maybe you could PM Benjamin, he can get word to Shannon and give you an official response on eaxactly what you want .

[gelimang]

[Post in violation of rule 15]

[Fonzy3]

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[gelimang]

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[Benjamin]

Ok you guys want to discuss the copy protection and that is fine if it's kept to this thread.. but keep in mind rule 15 which applies to what you're trying to talk about Gelimang..

Please respect our copyrights and those of others: do not post links to, or attachments of, nor in any other way use this forum to distribute, share, transfer, or disseminate any form of material or media that is copyrighted unless you have some way to prove that you have permission from the copyright owner which may be independently verified by us with the copyright holder. This forum is for the exchange of information and ideas regarding subliminals, not infringing on copyright laws.

[Fonzy3]

[Shannon can answer the original question.. I explained why I edited that one post]

[Benjamin]

Ok let's not air the issues we're having here Fonzy as it's not going to add to the forum. If needed we can continue in pm instead of a flame war on a thread.