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How many can be used at once?
03-20-2015, 09:54 AM
Post: #61
RE: How many can be used at once?
So quick question, I believe from the description I already know the answer so sorry if it is too obvious, but just wanted to make sure in this specific case.

I one were to do only AM6, and then only WM2. After finishing running both programs could one run AM6 8hrs and then WM2 8 hrs together?

I know the reason for not running 2 5g programs is the energy but since the brain has already absorbed both, wouldn't the second time around need less energy? Kind of maintenance and polishing?

Thanks and sorry if it falls under the umbrella of not running 2 5gs just wanted to ask this specific situation.
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03-20-2015, 10:16 AM
Post: #62
RE: How many can be used at once?
(03-20-2015 09:54 AM)Emilio Wrote:  So quick question, I believe from the description I already know the answer so sorry if it is too obvious, but just wanted to make sure in this specific case.

I one were to do only AM6, and then only WM2. After finishing running both programs could one run AM6 8hrs and then WM2 8 hrs together?

I know the reason for not running 2 5g programs is the energy but since the brain has already absorbed both, wouldn't the second time around need less energy? Kind of maintenance and polishing?

Thanks and sorry if it falls under the umbrella of not running 2 5gs just wanted to ask this specific situation.


If you use a 5G program, that is the ONLY program you can use while that program is in use. Period.

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03-20-2015, 10:23 AM
Post: #63
RE: How many can be used at once?
(03-20-2015 09:54 AM)Emilio Wrote:  So quick question, I believe from the description I already know the answer so sorry if it is too obvious, but just wanted to make sure in this specific case.

I one were to do only AM6, and then only WM2. After finishing running both programs could one run AM6 8hrs and then WM2 8 hrs together?

I know the reason for not running 2 5g programs is the energy but since the brain has already absorbed both, wouldn't the second time around need less energy? Kind of maintenance and polishing?

Thanks and sorry if it falls under the umbrella of not running 2 5gs just wanted to ask this specific situation.

Closest thing you can do is to run AM refresher for a month and after that WM refresher for another month, rinse and repeat. Running those two together is a no-no, doesn't matter the circumstances.

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03-20-2015, 09:53 PM
Post: #64
RE: How many can be used at once?
(03-20-2015 09:54 AM)Emilio Wrote:  So quick question, I believe from the description I already know the answer so sorry if it is too obvious, but just wanted to make sure in this specific case.

I one were to do only AM6, and then only WM2. After finishing running both programs could one run AM6 8hrs and then WM2 8 hrs together?

I know the reason for not running 2 5g programs is the energy but since the brain has already absorbed both, wouldn't the second time around need less energy? Kind of maintenance and polishing?

Thanks and sorry if it falls under the umbrella of not running 2 5gs just wanted to ask this specific situation.

Quick answer. No. Wink

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09-02-2015, 03:27 AM
Post: #65
RE: How many can be used at once?
I remember reading somewhere that, if we use 2 subs, they should aim in one direction. Like don't use a learning sub with a attract women sub. Is this true?
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12-11-2015, 01:49 PM
Post: #66
RE: How many can be used at once?
how many hours a day is recomended use Ultra Success and how long to have the best results
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12-12-2015, 09:38 AM
Post: #67
RE: How many can be used at once?
Don't you guys doing those 6-stage repeat cycles ever get disappointed that you aren't able to do anything else? That you're stuck in your 5G program for 6+ months, unable to to a Type D manifestation or maybe a tiny bit of 1-stage? You go to the store, see the list of all those amazing programs and find yourself wishing you could do more instead of being stuck waiting for Stage 6 to be over, only to realize you promised yourself you'd start another Stage 1 immediately after?

Or running a Type D 5G for 8 months, really wishing you could just do a round of LTU or ASC while waiting for the universe to bring you your order? Or even a second Type D, ordering up two things at once? I believe the latter one was possible with 3G, but those are dead and buried.

No matter what your age is, we're talking 6, 8, 12 months of your life here. It's still a lot of time, no matter how well spent.
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12-12-2015, 12:48 PM
Post: #68
RE: How many can be used at once?
I'd have like to run Gratitude and Appreciation. I don't care that it's 3G. I feel like instead of retiring titles, he (Shannon) should have made them available for free.
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12-12-2015, 02:50 PM (This post was last modified: 12-13-2015 02:21 AM by Whisperer.)
Post: #69
RE: How many can be used at once?
(12-12-2015 12:48 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  I'd have like to run Gratitude and Appreciation. I don't care that it's 3G. I feel like instead of retiring titles, he (Shannon) should have made them available for free.

No need to make them free, I doubt they were that expensive. Just keep them available, take them off when (if) they are upgraded to higher generations. Older generations are better than none at all. They don't take up any more of Shannon's time, so why not?

Personally, I would love to get my hands on that Hair Restoration Shannon has referred to in several threads. Not that an Alpha really cares, but I'd love to try a nice long wavy haircut. Now I'd have to try a competitor's subliminal for that instead of just buying it here.
Healing Scars would have been cool too. I hear good things. Maybe it's included in the Weight Loss program, to get rid of all those unbecoming stretch marks.

At very least a list would have been nice, so I won't be suggesting titles that already existed. I truly wonder if there was ever a 3G Lucid Dreamer. There has to have been, it's too popular not to.
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12-12-2015, 11:54 PM
Post: #70
RE: How many can be used at once?
No, they weren't expensive. As far I remember $9 per sub.
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12-28-2015, 06:09 AM (This post was last modified: 12-28-2015 06:09 AM by Max.)
Post: #71
RE: How many can be used at once?
I read that there are no exceptions to doing anything else with a 5g. Are there really no exceptions? I use a porn subliminal that I don't want to stop yet. I also have a rather high IQ with no associated disorders that is often found with higher intelligence. Is it possible for some to handle more, or does no mean no?
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12-29-2015, 10:57 AM
Post: #72
RE: How many can be used at once?
I don't think IQ comes into it. 5G subs contain affirmations that tell your subconscious to exclusively focus its attention, including dreams and visualization/imagination as well as seeing opportunities when they present themselves. All geared towards that specific goal.

So if you run multiple 5G's, and each contains instructions to focus on them exclusively, your mind simply won't know what to focus on (they keep overriding each other) and the effects are likely to be greatly minimized. Sure, most of the non-conflicting statements can be processed, but in all likelihood all those silly mysterious trade secrets will stop working. So instead of 2 programs, each lasting 3 months, you're reducing effectiveness to the point where they take 6 months. You can do them back to back, with a total of 6 months, or you can do them together, lasting 6 months. It's a simplified example, but the point remains valid.

I suppose in theory you could do certain 4G's or 3G's with a 5G, since they don't contain those statements, for as long as they don't go in an entirely different direction. No guarantees though. If you don't follow the instructions as presented, don't come complaining when they don't work as expected.

PS My only slightly above-average IQ was able to find the grammar error in your post. Smile
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12-29-2015, 02:42 PM
Post: #73
RE: How many can be used at once?
(12-29-2015 10:57 AM)Whisperer Wrote:  I don't think IQ comes into it. 5G subs contain affirmations that tell your subconscious to exclusively focus its attention, including dreams and visualization/imagination as well as seeing opportunities when they present themselves. All geared towards that specific goal.

So if you run multiple 5G's, and each contains instructions to focus on them exclusively, your mind simply won't know what to focus on (they keep overriding each other) and the effects are likely to be greatly minimized. Sure, most of the non-conflicting statements can be processed, but in all likelihood all those silly mysterious trade secrets will stop working. So instead of 2 programs, each lasting 3 months, you're reducing effectiveness to the point where they take 6 months. You can do them back to back, with a total of 6 months, or you can do them together, lasting 6 months. It's a simplified example, but the point remains valid.

I suppose in theory you could do certain 4G's or 3G's with a 5G, since they don't contain those statements, for as long as they don't go in an entirely different direction. No guarantees though. If you don't follow the instructions as presented, don't come complaining when they don't work as expected.

PS My only slightly above-average IQ was able to find the grammar error in your post. Smile

Ha! I should probably proof my copy a little better.

Also, thank you for the reply.
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04-05-2017, 02:49 PM (This post was last modified: 04-05-2017 02:51 PM by D.Ace.)
Post: #74
RE: How many can be used at once?
So I guess I'm the only one who posts in 2017.
I've been using US in the day and TLAM in the night for the last 8 days, both of them are 4G and are B/D type.
The only side effect I have is getting hungry quite often which likely comes from D type energy requirements. Honestly, I like this effect for I need to gain weight after having some thyroid disorder that caused me 7 kilos loss.
So is it appropriate to use them this way if I can bear the side effect?
It's been years being underweight listed in my medical records.

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04-26-2017, 10:31 PM
Post: #75
RE: How many can be used at once?
(04-11-2010 10:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:  It happens every time. Someone tries a sub, and it works, and then they want to buy everything we have and use it all at once. Well I understand... I was once in those shoes also. But it doesn't work that way.

No matter how much you may wish it was otherwise, you can't use all the programs you want at once.

If English is not your first language, and/or you cannot speak it fluently, look at the scripts for the programs you want to use together. If you do not understand the whole thing, or one of them does not have a script listed, use only one at a time. Otherwise, proceed as if you do speak English fluently.

If English is your native language, or you can speak it fluently:

A maximum of two programs at once (including one Type C or D program) makes sense for most people.

Please remember that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and it takes energy to make these programs work. You can't expect to use stop smoking, weight loss and hair regrowth all at once (all of these are programs that deal with making physical changes) and expect good results. Not because they don't work, but because you simply don't have sufficient energy and focus when using them all at once! Programs designed to manifest something, attract something into your life, or create a physical change (including dealing with an addiction of some sort) should be used by themselves if possible, and never with any other program of this type.

Using one attraction/manifestation/physical change program and one Type B at once is about the limit.

Just for reference...

Type A uses direct triggering of the lizard brain and currently only the Poetry of the Silent Eros uses this technique. You can use volumes 1 and 3 with other programs. Volumes 2, 4 and 5 should not be used with other programs.

Type B changes thoughts and beliefs to work. Up to two Type B programs may be used together, or one Type B and one program of another type.

Type C makes a physical change to the body. No more than one Type C or Type C hybrid program should be used at a time. Do not mix with Type C, Type C hybrids or Type D, or use with more than one Type B at a time.

Type D is attraction/manifestation. One Type D or Type D hybrid at a time, maximum. Do not mix with Type C, hybrids or Type D, or use with more than one Type B at a time.

Type E is long term programming. You can use no more than one 4G Type E program at a time. These programs require energy, and lots of it, but are also being used for very long periods of time. Use no more than two programs of Type B only with Type E programming. Type C, Type D and hybrids should be avoided. If you do use a Type C, Type D or hybrid program with a Type E, you should only use one such program at a time, with only the Type E reference program, and use the Type C/D/Hybrid for 2x as long.

If the program is 5G, nothing else can be used with it. Only one program at a time if you are using a 5G, regardless of what type it is.

Regardless of anything else, if English is not your first language and you do not speak it fluently and do not fully understand all of the scripts for the programs you are interested in using, use only one at a time.

If you are using more than one program at a time, it is better to use each one for several hours straight and then switch to the other, than to loop them back to back. For instance, say I am using 2 4g programs that are compatible. The way to get the best results would be 8 hours of the first one, followed by 8 hours of the second one, and then 8 hours of time to rest. You'll have to use a playlist for this.

Hello Shannon
Can it be possible to listen AM-6 (5G) and MLS-3 (4G) parallel?
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04-26-2017, 10:38 PM
Post: #76
RE: How many can be used at once?
Shannon will have the same answer as I gave you in your email Wink
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04-27-2017, 06:00 PM
Post: #77
RE: How many can be used at once?
(04-26-2017 10:31 PM)crazy4women Wrote:  
(04-11-2010 10:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:  It happens every time. Someone tries a sub, and it works, and then they want to buy everything we have and use it all at once. Well I understand... I was once in those shoes also. But it doesn't work that way.

No matter how much you may wish it was otherwise, you can't use all the programs you want at once.

If English is not your first language, and/or you cannot speak it fluently, look at the scripts for the programs you want to use together. If you do not understand the whole thing, or one of them does not have a script listed, use only one at a time. Otherwise, proceed as if you do speak English fluently.

If English is your native language, or you can speak it fluently:

A maximum of two programs at once (including one Type C or D program) makes sense for most people.

Please remember that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and it takes energy to make these programs work. You can't expect to use stop smoking, weight loss and hair regrowth all at once (all of these are programs that deal with making physical changes) and expect good results. Not because they don't work, but because you simply don't have sufficient energy and focus when using them all at once! Programs designed to manifest something, attract something into your life, or create a physical change (including dealing with an addiction of some sort) should be used by themselves if possible, and never with any other program of this type.

Using one attraction/manifestation/physical change program and one Type B at once is about the limit.

Just for reference...

Type A uses direct triggering of the lizard brain and currently only the Poetry of the Silent Eros uses this technique. You can use volumes 1 and 3 with other programs. Volumes 2, 4 and 5 should not be used with other programs.

Type B changes thoughts and beliefs to work. Up to two Type B programs may be used together, or one Type B and one program of another type.

Type C makes a physical change to the body. No more than one Type C or Type C hybrid program should be used at a time. Do not mix with Type C, Type C hybrids or Type D, or use with more than one Type B at a time.

Type D is attraction/manifestation. One Type D or Type D hybrid at a time, maximum. Do not mix with Type C, hybrids or Type D, or use with more than one Type B at a time.

Type E is long term programming. You can use no more than one 4G Type E program at a time. These programs require energy, and lots of it, but are also being used for very long periods of time. Use no more than two programs of Type B only with Type E programming. Type C, Type D and hybrids should be avoided. If you do use a Type C, Type D or hybrid program with a Type E, you should only use one such program at a time, with only the Type E reference program, and use the Type C/D/Hybrid for 2x as long.

If the program is 5G, nothing else can be used with it. Only one program at a time if you are using a 5G, regardless of what type it is.

Regardless of anything else, if English is not your first language and you do not speak it fluently and do not fully understand all of the scripts for the programs you are interested in using, use only one at a time.

If you are using more than one program at a time, it is better to use each one for several hours straight and then switch to the other, than to loop them back to back. For instance, say I am using 2 4g programs that are compatible. The way to get the best results would be 8 hours of the first one, followed by 8 hours of the second one, and then 8 hours of time to rest. You'll have to use a playlist for this.

Hello Shannon
Can it be possible to listen AM-6 (5G) and MLS-3 (4G) parallel?

You quoted the answer, and then asked me, after asking Ben? Allow me to quote the answer for you, as copied and pasted from above.

Quote:If the program is 5G, nothing else can be used with it. Only one program at a time if you are using a 5G, regardless of what type it is.

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04-27-2017, 06:01 PM
Post: #78
RE: How many can be used at once?
(04-05-2017 02:49 PM)D.Ace Wrote:  So I guess I'm the only one who posts in 2017.
I've been using US in the day and TLAM in the night for the last 8 days, both of them are 4G and are B/D type.
The only side effect I have is getting hungry quite often which likely comes from D type energy requirements. Honestly, I like this effect for I need to gain weight after having some thyroid disorder that caused me 7 kilos loss.
So is it appropriate to use them this way if I can bear the side effect?
It's been years being underweight listed in my medical records.

You are degrading the effects of both significantly.

Follow the directions.

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04-27-2017, 07:06 PM
Post: #79
RE: How many can be used at once?
(04-27-2017 06:01 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(04-05-2017 02:49 PM)D.Ace Wrote:  So I guess I'm the only one who posts in 2017.
I've been using US in the day and TLAM in the night for the last 8 days, both of them are 4G and are B/D type.
The only side effect I have is getting hungry quite often which likely comes from D type energy requirements. Honestly, I like this effect for I need to gain weight after having some thyroid disorder that caused me 7 kilos loss.
So is it appropriate to use them this way if I can bear the side effect?
It's been years being underweight listed in my medical records.

You are degrading the effects of both significantly.

Follow the directions.

Thanks Shannon,
I dropped the TLAM for the last 5 days for the side effect started to overwhelm me.
Will continue with US as instructed.

Anyway if you read my journal about US and TLAM, am waiting for the day to meet you personally to thank you. Going to the States is one of things I really want to do, and who knows? Smile

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