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NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
12-30-2016, 08:45 AM (This post was last modified: 12-31-2016 09:51 AM by Geodude.)
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NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
DISCLAIMER: I think Shannon said not to do NG with AM6, so I'd recommend doing this between subs or do it during a sub like LTU. I've noticed that it does seem to mess with SM3 and WM2, (ironically), so you might want to do this after you finish them. However, DO stop looking at porn as that will improve your life no matter what.

My story:

Back in the 2000's, I had had nearly zero success with women. At that point in my life, I had discovered tapping and had totally eradicated most of my problems, but I still struggled with women. Throughout those years, I went through a massive amount of self-help and PUA materials with next-to-no results. I was still crippled by approach anxiety and success with women was an uphill struggle. Even unattractive women weren't interested in me. For a guy who has always been objectively good-looking, this was deeply troubling. Even when I would practice approaching, it was a really shitty experience. The women seem to not want me. It was really frustrating because I heard so many times throughout my life how women rate me an 8, 9, or even 10/10 on attractiveness; I couldn't figure out how the hell to fix this problem.

One day, however, while searching for tapping scripts for approach anxiety, I stumbled upon EFT scripts written by a dude named Rion Williams. At that time, there was nearly zero useful information on the internet concerning tapping, so I was eager to find anything that could help.

The scripts helped a little, and I decided to search Rion's forum to learn more. Once there, I saw that the number one thread on the forum was by a guy named Mr_Marcus who talked about his insane results using something called NG. Inspired by his results, I decided to research it further. NG sounded totally nuts to me at the time, but I was deeply troubled by my women issue and open to try anything. I saw on Rion's site that there was a training course for NG. (http://www.naturalgrounding.net). I said, "**** it" and went through the course with an open mind.

I still to this day remember the first day I went through the videos. I'm pretty sure the ones I watched were "Secret of Women" and "Super Halo". I had so, so, so much resistance. I had thoughts like, "this is gay", "this is stupid" etc. but stubborn as I am, I forced myself to watch the videos like 20 times in a row, determined to feel something.

Finally, like a drop of water going through a dusty, clogged, pipe, I shed a single, small, tear.

As I hadn't cried in over a decade at that point, this was pretty significant to me. I figured, "there might be something to this shit" and decided to just keep doing it everyday. "Why not? It's not like it could get any worse with women," I thought.

Little did I know, my life was about to get nuts.

I don't really remember anything significant happening over the next few days or even weeks, besides a 180 degree difference from being extremely negative and complaining all the time, to the literal opposite. Other than that, I don't remember anything really happening for a while.

At that time, I was working at a store at the mall. Rarely, they would hire an attractive woman, but they would usually be in a relationship or quit not long after.

At one point they hired this hot woman that I still to this day would rate as at least a 9/10 on attractiveness. Let's call her Amber. I think she may of been working there before I started NG, but I'm not sure. I do know, however, that I had never said anything to her (she worked on the opposite side of the store), and she definitely didn't even look at me. I remember that one day I closed the store with her and oh boy, was I attached. It was literal pain I felt, since she was exactly what I wanted and I didn't want to screw things up.

I think it's important to point out that there were other women at my job, but I didn't even bother talking to them because I wasn't interested in them.

Then something magical happened.

At some point, maybe a few weeks after starting NG, I started having a significantly more positive attitude regarding women. I started feeling really good in general and for the first time in my life, I wasn't full of self-hate. I found myself talking to those women that I mentioned before, and actually caring about them. I noticed that I had a lot in common with them, and I started really enjoying their company.

Around that time, I also noticed women started checking me out everywhere I went. I noticed that I was experiencing some kind of momentum effect, where I kept feeling better and better, not knowing what was really happening. I started feeling like I had all the power in my interactions. I felt fulfilled and happy, and I felt that way no matter where I went, rather than being depressed at one location, (like the bar for example), and feeling happy somewhere else. I felt a consistent happiness and satisfaction 24/7.

I didn't approach any women during this time, or really do much of anything for results. It's not that I didn't want to, it was just at that time in my life, I kinda gave up on approaching, as it had been a very negative experience.

One day, after doing this for a month, I think, I went to work. Remember I mentioned that Amber worked on the opposite side of the store? Well not this time. She literally left her post to come to the back and gravitated to me. She came back there and rested against me and would not stop touching me. It was like I had some kind of magical energy and she was trying to get it to rub off on her. She got so enthusiastic about it that the other guys working in the back with me got uncomfortable and left (lol). Pretty cool.

Also, around this time, women started approaching me. This was a new experience for me. Just imagine being zero with women your whole life, then suddenly having beautiful women approaching you. It was awesome.

A lot of great stuff happened, but it would take like 20 pages to write it all out, and I've already said a ton.

Let's get to the tutorial!

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What is NG? And why does it work?
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Here's an example to give you an idea.

Imagine there's a guy named Bob who has never had any success with women. He's tried hard, he's done PUA stuff, but he's just not as successful as he wants to be; getting women takes a big effort and it seems to be an uphill struggle. When he can force himself to approach women, he feels really uncomfortable and feels like he has to convince them to like him. Sometimes the women respond, but it's always work; a struggle. Bob has large feeling of lack in regards to women and it makes him miserable.

Enter NG.

Bob starts to do NG, and although he thinks it's stupid and weird, he sticks with it anyway. After doing it 20 minutes everyday for a bit, he notices that that large feeling of lacking women is less everyday and as a result, he's much happier. He starts having a much more positive view of women and finds himself "sending" them love as he walks to work, instead of resenting them like he used to. Talking to women is suddenly a positive experience and all those feelings of "here's my chance to get this girl" are gone. Instead, he just has fun and expresses himself. He no longer has any fear of loss when he talks to women, because strangely enough, he feels fulfilled in the area of women, despite the fact that he's been single for 20 years...But that doesn't last. Bob finds himself being sought out by beautiful women; even ones that seemed to not know he even existed. They start inviting him out to the dance club. These results get even more and more nuts. Women starting talking to him about their sex lives and start touching him constantly. Suddenly, Bob finds himself so comfortable with women that he has sex with them very easily. Bob eventually stops NG because he gets into a relationship with the woman he wants, and the constant attention from women is pretty annoying.

So that's what you can expect.

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How does NG work?
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Let me make it very simple for you: NG is giving yourself free unconditional love and approval from quality women.

You know how when you get into a relationship, women start appearing out of nowhere and start showing you interest? NG is very similar.

You're more or less defined by your experiences up to this point. If your whole life you've had negative experiences with women, you will certainly have limiting beliefs and issues with them. NG allows you control this process and start giving yourself positive experiences. It's almost like cheating.

So imagine if, for 20 minutes a day, a large group of young, authentic women came to your house and gave you genuine unconditional love and approval every day. How would that affect you?

Or imagine how when you have a shitty day, how much it would mean to you to if someone you cared about gave you hug and said, "I love you and am proud of you".

Would you keep feeling shitty? Or would it make you lighten up?

90% of guys have an empty cup when it comes to women. They feel lack and feel great when women want them, but shitty when they don't. This makes getting women a miserable, emotional roller-coaster.

The guys who do NG, however, have a filled cup with women. So suddenly, they find themselves 100% comfortable around the beautiful women they dreamed about. They can suddenly be themselves and have relationships with women. These guys are so incredibly rare, that it's like a huge breath of fresh air to women. They don't want to lose those guys, so they defy societal norms and pursue them.

It's really that simple. NG will fulfill you in the area of women. So as a result, it will solve a ton of issues.

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How to do NG
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1. VERY important to stop looking at porn. Porn has the exact opposite effect of NG and will literally damage your brain. There's tons of resources out there to help you, but realize that fapping is as bad an addiction as hard drugs or smoking. Don't believe me? Go to yourbrainonporn.com and see for yourself.

2. Try to clear your mind. Just suspend your judgments and disbelief for the time being and watch the videos.

3. Look into their eyes. Notice their sincerity and authenticity in giving you approval.

4. Accept their approval. You can literally say this to yourself while you're watching it: "Accept their approval".

5. Watch any of the videos in any order for at least 20 minutes every day. No exceptions.

6. Allow yourself to be emotional. The goal is to shed tears. If you do, pat yourself on the back. If it's not happening, then replay the videos over and over until you do.

7. When women start pursuing you, try to "let it go", as it will be very easy to fall back into your old patterns. Find it within yourself to let go of a "golden opportunity" because I promise you, there will be many more women.

8. Don't worry too much about what's on the official NG site. Rion tends to vastly over-complicate this very simple process. Just take my explanation of it and you'll be fine.

That's it. I hope you guys enjoy and I hope it works for you.
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12-30-2016, 09:02 AM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
I think "natural grounding" is like an antidote for Porny mindset

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12-30-2016, 11:45 AM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
Yep. What would you rather have? Real women or a picture on a screen? It's a no-brainer.
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12-30-2016, 02:34 PM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
This is very interesting. I'm going to try it out and report back with my results.

Thank you for this!
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12-30-2016, 03:09 PM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
I did NG for a while. Did nothing for me. Just sayin'.

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12-30-2016, 03:38 PM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
Geo, is there a specific set of videos that we should watch? The course on his website is missing videos "due to copyright infringement" on youtube.
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12-30-2016, 04:49 PM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
(12-30-2016 03:38 PM)Travis Wrote:  Geo, is there a specific set of videos that we should watch? The course on his website is missing videos "due to copyright infringement" on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...YNP7_nHuxr

You can try these.
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12-30-2016, 10:31 PM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
I looked at the NG forum, and no one there seems to have very good results. Do you have a link to Mr_Marcus' journal? Or a link to anyone else's that has seen improvement?
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12-31-2016, 01:40 AM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
Hmmm seems like I might give it a go

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12-31-2016, 04:29 AM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
Thanks Geodude, you really do put the work into your journey and give back!

I would like to give this a try, and I like to keep things simple like yourself. So im wondering whats the best way to lay foundations for NG. Do you watch the same video everyday for 20 minutes? Or is it a mix of 2-5 minutes videos that you watch for 20 minutes?

The playlist you linked to above has a mixture of videos, I would like to compile a 20-30 minute set of videos then rip them - that way IU can have them on my iPhone, laptop and watch them consistently.

I would love to give tapping a go but I'm still running EPRHA, I might contact you in the new year when I finish my run for some 121.

Thanks again geodude!

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12-31-2016, 07:28 AM
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
Wasn't NG something about feeling the female energy of women? Some ying yang shit? Your explanation seems different?
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12-31-2016, 08:32 AM
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(12-31-2016 07:28 AM)Vincent_Vega Wrote:  Wasn't NG something about feeling the female energy of women? Some ying yang shit? Your explanation seems different?

Yeah don't worry about all that stuff. That's one of the reasons guys don't try this out. It's just free approval from women.
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12-31-2016, 08:37 AM (This post was last modified: 12-31-2016 08:38 AM by Geodude.)
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(12-31-2016 04:29 AM)ArcticFox Wrote:  Thanks Geodude, you really do put the work into your journey and give back!

I would like to give this a try, and I like to keep things simple like yourself. So im wondering whats the best way to lay foundations for NG. Do you watch the same video everyday for 20 minutes? Or is it a mix of 2-5 minutes videos that you watch for 20 minutes?

The playlist you linked to above has a mixture of videos, I would like to compile a 20-30 minute set of videos then rip them - that way IU can have them on my iPhone, laptop and watch them consistently.

I would love to give tapping a go but I'm still running EPRHA, I might contact you in the new year when I finish my run for some 121.

Thanks again geodude!

You're welcome. It's the least I could do. I wish I had someone telling me this stuff years ago.

FYI, T3 is vastly different than before. I might make a post about it in the near future.

The stuff by mpgamer55 are my favorites. Sometimes I'll watch 3 different videos, other times I watch one video over and over. I think I watched "One" 8 times in a row yesterday. Just make it to 20 minutes everyday. If you've been single forever, getting a ton of approval like this will do incredible things for you.

Here's a good post by Mr Marcus for whoever asked for it:

http://relationalmastery.com/amember/for...?f=2&t=306
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12-31-2016, 08:47 AM
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I wanted to say too, that I'm at about 120+ days of NoFap. If you're still looking at porn, it will reverse the results you get with NG. If you're doing NoFap, you'll get results almost immediately.

Remember to think of this process as conditioning your mind. Receiving unconditional love and approval from women may be an alien concept to you, but it will obviously pay off.

From my experience, I've found that women want you to have a full cup. IOW, they want you to be fulfilled in the area of women, even before you approach them. You can do that 3 ways:
1. Getting approval from women irl. (Which you can't control.)
2. Visualizing (Which is the same as actual experience)
3. NG

I wanted to mention too, that approval from women ranges from a smile to sex. It's the whole spectrum. It may not seem like it, but when you keep doing NG, you will get both and everything in between.
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12-31-2016, 10:03 AM
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Thanks Geo for this Gift!

Do you think could conflict with EHPRA 2.0?
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12-31-2016, 10:31 AM
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A word of warning when it comes to this stuff:

There was a phase on this forum where everyone was doing Natural Grounding and EFT, and while many saw results from it - in the long term it only diminished the results of the subliminals we were running and none of the results were permenant in any sense.

GeoDude claims he's had great results from this material and if he has, good for him. We also have a large amount of people who had no results and couldn't sustain the results they created.

If you read older journals you'll constantly see people picking up EFT and Natural Grounding, only to abandon them because they didn't bring the results as promised. I know Sarge and Benjamin's older journals off the top of my head.

Plus, come on guys. Really? Watching Asian chicks dancing for hours on end is going to get you laid? Really?
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12-31-2016, 03:07 PM
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Yeah, the Asian dancing chicks are super weird. It was the first warning sign for me. Thanks for the info Bookstacks.

I think the concept is interesting though, and it makes sense. Does anyone know of an alternative Shakti Meditation?
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12-31-2016, 07:59 PM
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(12-31-2016 08:47 AM)Geodude Wrote:  I wanted to say too, that I'm at about 120+ days of NoFap. If you're still looking at porn, it will reverse the results you get with NG. If you're doing NoFap, you'll get results almost immediately.

Remember to think of this process as conditioning your mind. Receiving unconditional love and approval from women may be an alien concept to you, but it will obviously pay off.

From my experience, I've found that women want you to have a full cup. IOW, they want you to be fulfilled in the area of women, even before you approach them. You can do that 3 ways:
1. Getting approval from women irl. (Which you can't control.)
2. Visualizing (Which is the same as actual experience)
3. NG

I wanted to mention too, that approval from women ranges from a smile to sex. It's the whole spectrum. It may not seem like it, but when you keep doing NG, you will get both and everything in between.

So NG is about "faking" an abundance of woman? Like seeing the women in the video give you approval/IOIs and start believing that it's real? So somehow like subs: hearing/seeing something till you accepting it as your reality?
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12-31-2016, 09:35 PM (This post was last modified: 12-31-2016 09:42 PM by Geodude.)
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RE: NG: The Solution to your Women Issues
(12-31-2016 07:59 PM)Vincent_Vega Wrote:  
(12-31-2016 08:47 AM)Geodude Wrote:  I wanted to say too, that I'm at about 120+ days of NoFap. If you're still looking at porn, it will reverse the results you get with NG. If you're doing NoFap, you'll get results almost immediately.

Remember to think of this process as conditioning your mind. Receiving unconditional love and approval from women may be an alien concept to you, but it will obviously pay off.

From my experience, I've found that women want you to have a full cup. IOW, they want you to be fulfilled in the area of women, even before you approach them. You can do that 3 ways:
1. Getting approval from women irl. (Which you can't control.)
2. Visualizing (Which is the same as actual experience)
3. NG

I wanted to mention too, that approval from women ranges from a smile to sex. It's the whole spectrum. It may not seem like it, but when you keep doing NG, you will get both and everything in between.

So NG is about "faking" an abundance of woman? Like seeing the women in the video give you approval/IOIs and start believing that it's real? So somehow like subs: hearing/seeing something till you accepting it as your reality?

Kind of. If you're single, you'll communicate nonverbally that you have sexual abundance. Idk if it changes beliefs, but it will significantly alter your reality. The brain treats NG as a real(ish) experience, so it's the same as if you had women giving you approval in reality.

Bottom line: the biggest problem guys have is that they deal with women while being in a place of lack and desperation. This fixes that.
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12-31-2016, 09:45 PM
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(12-31-2016 10:31 AM)Bookstacks DC737 Wrote:  A word of warning when it comes to this stuff:

There was a phase on this forum where everyone was doing Natural Grounding and EFT, and while many saw results from it - in the long term it only diminished the results of the subliminals we were running and none of the results were permenant in any sense.

GeoDude claims he's had great results from this material and if he has, good for him. We also have a large amount of people who had no results and couldn't sustain the results they created.

If you read older journals you'll constantly see people picking up EFT and Natural Grounding, only to abandon them because they didn't bring the results as promised. I know Sarge and Benjamin's older journals off the top of my head.

Plus, come on guys. Really? Watching Asian chicks dancing for hours on end is going to get you laid? Really?

I hope I can communicate this stuff better in the future. I write this stuff to help you guys. I was in your shoes not long ago. I'm just writing the thread that I wish I could've read years ago.
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