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Yesterday, 10:18 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Yesterday 03:01 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:58 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:  I don't know how many of you would get better growth from B alone. I just know what I was directed to do. Based on this one data point, I suspect that all the major resisters would do best on B only, but of course that's one data point and I assure you, the major resisters will not be doing B only unless I make 3.2 as B only. Which I might.
(Yesterday 11:53 AM)RTBoss Wrote:  How's that gonna go over with the folks who paid $230 for DMSI?

Shannon has always been forthcoming about the price going up on DMSI. Even before the "healing & clearing" was created.

Eventually, the price will increase AGAIN... and they will be grateful that they paid $230!!

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but the reason the price went up was because of the additional version. It was the reason given, so people who purchased it under that pretense may be miffed. Yes, Shannon said the price would eventually increase - when the program performs to his satisfaction. That reasoning may not fly at this point, however.

My dad's an attorney, and his attorney DNA passed itself on to me. I don't have a dog in this fight, but just throwing it out there so Shannon doesn't have another potential mess to deal with.

I'm all for switching between versions to speed the process up. I feel it's been working great for me, as well.

If I set up 3.2 as B-side only, it would probably be as a temporary thing for the first month to see how you guys respond. Otherwise it would make no difference to me. I'm looking at it from the point of view of "What happens if I do this, with the currently level of technology?" Ultimately, I would very much like to get it so powerful and efficient that only B is necessary, if possible. But whatever works in the end.

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Yesterday, 10:20 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Yesterday 03:18 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:  Me: It stands to reason and I assume,in the positive, that since ALL these wonderful,powerful,and empowering things that you are discovering,creating,coming up with and that are 'coming to you; from 'beyound',all these things will eventually be added into Many other titles such as Psychic Self-Defense(Neutralizing negative influcences externally,ect,that is if there is to be one called Psychic self defense) E3,AM7,BAMM 3.0('er whatever it will be called!) from DMSI's 'skeleton script'. again it stands to reason... removing fears,nullifying the need for approval,sourcing spirit/self for love and connect,and neutralizing any form of neediness/negativity. One would assume these positive things to be so when the time comes. That, I'd say ,is most definitely inspiriing. I still believe in 'dream solution' and I still listen to it ,in 2G.

Shannon's partial rendering from HIS journal:
Had a dream while I was sleeping that had two parts. This dream is interesting. I won't go into details, but I will say that DMSI is working on "killing" (as it was put in the dream) those parts of me that are negative and unattractive and unpleasant and enhancing those parts of me that are positive and attractive. It seems to be working on transforming me internally at the moment.

There will be a lot of interesting things in the skeleton script by the time it goes live as 6G. When I get done, I want a stable base from which I can work, and all possible modules necessary are already present. I would just be turning on and off what works for making a given title work at that point, instead of having a situation like other gens where the early part of that gen is different than the middle and that is different from the end.

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Yesterday, 10:21 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Yesterday 01:20 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  I'm resisting pretty heavily today. Looks like 7 loops of B was waaaaayyyy too much. 5 loops of B is my sweet spot. I felt amazing yesterday. Today, I'm exhausted beyond belief, moody, everything seems to be going wrong and I want nothing to do with women. Sounds like resistance / reversal response. Manifestations have died down after a week of non-stop hits. So, either I manifested every eligible woman in the area or I'm resisting the script. We'll know in about two hours. When I resist, I always seem to start breaking through around 7pm EST.

You get to be better than you are by...

A) doing what is comfortable? or
B) Pushing yourself?

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Yesterday, 10:32 PM (This post was last modified: Yesterday 10:35 PM by Benjamin.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Quote:If I set up 3.2 as B-side only, it would probably be as a temporary thing for the first month to see how you guys respond. Otherwise it would make no difference to me. I'm looking at it from the point of view of "What happens if I do this, with the currently level of technology?" Ultimately, I would very much like to get it so powerful and efficient that only B is necessary, if possible. But whatever works in the end.

My main reasoning is that I like the healing and guilt, shame, fear reduction and such for healing other things not directly related to the goal of getting sex. That has helped with other things like getting along better with some family and such. If it's just brute forcing towards the goal there isn't as much of that benefit on the journey. Some of the benefit is healing some of my other issues, that are also connected to the goal in a way.
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Yesterday, 10:36 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
@the guys who change between A and B sides: What makes you decide what to run? Are you running them for a certain amount of dayss/weeks and then swith over, or are you running B until you think there's resistance coming up to then switch back to A?
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Yesterday, 10:41 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Yesterday 10:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote:  
Quote:If I set up 3.2 as B-side only, it would probably be as a temporary thing for the first month to see how you guys respond. Otherwise it would make no difference to me. I'm looking at it from the point of view of "What happens if I do this, with the currently level of technology?" Ultimately, I would very much like to get it so powerful and efficient that only B is necessary, if possible. But whatever works in the end.

My main reasoning is that I like the healing and guilt, shame, fear reduction and such for healing other things not directly related to the goal of getting sex. That has helped with other things like getting along better with some family and such. If it's just brute forcing towards the goal there isn't as much of that benefit on the journey. Some of the benefit is healing some of my other issues, that are also connected to the goal in a way.

Have you used B side for 2 or 4+ weeks straight to know that for sure? Because both programs have the exact same goal, and both of them have to "do what it takes" to achieve that goal. Ergo, getting past those issues must happen in both cases. Only the method differs, not the requirements or the goal.

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Yesterday, 10:47 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Yesterday 10:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote:  My main reasoning is that I like the healing and guilt, shame, fear reduction and such for healing other things not directly related to the goal of getting sex. That has helped with other things like getting along better with some family and such. If it's just brute forcing towards the goal there isn't as much of that benefit on the journey. Some of the benefit is healing some of my other issues, that are also connected to the goal in a way.

I have to agree. There was a lot of tangent healing that helped my relations all across the board including business, family and friends. It just felt like everything was helped all at once, which generally made me into a better person.

(Yesterday 10:36 PM)hsindermann Wrote:  @the guys who change between A and B sides: What makes you decide what to run? Are you running them for a certain amount of dayss/weeks and then swith over, or are you running B until you think there's resistance coming up to then switch back to A?

I felt incredible discomfort at the tail end of A. I self reflected after the 4th day, and it wasn't telling me to stop listening but rather to move on to B. If that internal voice had said to switch to BASE or stop altogether and wait for MLS, i would have tossed it aside. But i really felt it was pushing me to move on because the healing was done, which resulted in a vague free floating discomfort for 4 straight days.

I'm pretty sure this was the case now because using B now feels very serene. My first try on it months ago made me feel seriously uneasy/ unbalanced. So something definitely changed from me months ago and me during this last run (i ran A for 72 days, non-contiguous) which enabled me to finally benefit from using B. And there are notable results now such as IOI's, and general increased interest from women i never thought would be into me. The response has roughly increased by a factor of 3 from this first week of being on B.

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Today, 07:21 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Yesterday 11:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:  Let's be crystal clear about one thing: I am resisting DMSI. My subconscious is trying hard to resist. It's done a variety of very interesting and unexpected things to get me to stop using DMSI. You guys resisting are definitely not alone. Even I and Chaos try to resist.

You should have results from doing A only, yes. Once you are clear enough. The difference in someone not resisting DMSI (which I suspect is going to happen to everybody to some degree) for A and B would be dependent on their personality and background.

I don't know how much increase someone executing perfectly would see from B over A because nobody has done it yet.

I don't know how many of you would get better growth from B alone. I just know what I was directed to do. Based on this one data point, I suspect that all the major resisters would do best on B only, but of course that's one data point and I assure you, the major resisters will not be doing B only unless I make 3.2 as B only. Which I might.

Hey Shannon,

I've been running version B for the last week and, while I'm heavy resister, I enjoyed it quite a bit. You can read more about it on my journal, where I got some interesting results. Also I intent to run it for the next couple of weeks I guess, so we'll see how it goes for me compared to version A.

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Today, 11:19 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 07:21 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:  Let's be crystal clear about one thing: I am resisting DMSI. My subconscious is trying hard to resist. It's done a variety of very interesting and unexpected things to get me to stop using DMSI. You guys resisting are definitely not alone. Even I and Chaos try to resist.

You should have results from doing A only, yes. Once you are clear enough. The difference in someone not resisting DMSI (which I suspect is going to happen to everybody to some degree) for A and B would be dependent on their personality and background.

I don't know how much increase someone executing perfectly would see from B over A because nobody has done it yet.

I don't know how many of you would get better growth from B alone. I just know what I was directed to do. Based on this one data point, I suspect that all the major resisters would do best on B only, but of course that's one data point and I assure you, the major resisters will not be doing B only unless I make 3.2 as B only. Which I might.

Hey Shannon,

I've been running version B for the last week and, while I'm heavy resister, I enjoyed it quite a bit. You can read more about it on my journal, where I got some interesting results. Also I intent to run it for the next couple of weeks I guess, so we'll see how it goes for me compared to version A.

I have been following along. Smile

Lately I have been so busy that I have not had a chance to test whether to use different loops every night, but for a week straight, I was getting from the models that I needed to use 7 loops every day during this month to achieve my goals. So I guess we will see.

In my case, there is resistance still, and I can tell it's coming from deep, but it seems to be lessening somewhat recently. Have hyad some memories surface that make me think we are going to have to deal with stuff I didn't even realize was holding me back (again), from as far back as when I was 3 and 4 years old. And as usual, it makes no sense to me at all why these things would be holding me back, since they have seemingly nothing to do with the goals of DMSI.

But... nothing is going to stop me. Onward.

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Today, 11:38 AM
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Hey Shannon
Idk if this has been answered or not, but is 3.2 likely to be the end of the line with regards to DSMI?

I saw you posted something a few days ago that sounded like it but I wanted to make sure
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Today, 11:40 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 11:38 AM)THolt Wrote:  Hey Shannon
Idk if this has been answered or not, but is 3.2 likely to be the end of the line with regards to DSMI?

I saw you posted something a few days ago that sounded like it but I wanted to make sure

Here is the latest statement:
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8858-p...#pid171854

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Today, 12:14 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Shannon I've been thinking about this for some time now and it's likely covered in the tech of DMSI which I've yet to experience. But what do you make of the fear of being inauthentic? I find one of my core values is authenticity and I believe I'm the emotional core type person you've described in other posts. It has led me to over identity with negative beliefs about myself as well as caused me to limit myself in various ways under the false assumption that it's not who I am. It is in no way logical and I find trying to deconstruct it with logic leaves nothing insightful. I'd imagine this would be covered under the huge umbrella of fear and would be addressed despite not having anything scripted specifically for it. But my main point is, my internal framework is quite illogical to me and I find a lot of my driving behavior has no point of reference, it merely exists there.
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Today, 12:35 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 12:14 PM)mat422 Wrote:  Shannon I've been thinking about this for some time now and it's likely covered in the tech of DMSI which I've yet to experience. But what do you make of the fear of being inauthentic? I find one of my core values is authenticity and I believe I'm the emotional core type person you've described in other posts. It has led me to over identity with negative beliefs about myself as well as caused me to limit myself in various ways under the false assumption that it's not who I am. It is in no way logical and I find trying to deconstruct it with logic leaves nothing insightful. I'd imagine this would be covered under the huge umbrella of fear and would be addressed despite not having anything scripted specifically for it. But my main point is, my internal framework is quite illogical to me and I find a lot of my driving behavior has no point of reference, it merely exists there.

Fear of being inauthentic is similar to a basic fear of not being good enough. "Inauthentic" implies fake, false, not as good as the original, illusory, inferior, dishonest, less than. It could be taken in a lot of different directions, and given your perfectionism, I would say it's a fear that you are not good enough, and trying to be good enough or make improvements may be dealing with a fear that you cannot become better than what you started out as.

That would actually make a lot of sense, given the difficulty you have reported in advancing and making progress. In the end, it would likely boil down to an escape mechanism/excuse for failing and hiding from progress based on the belief that "changing from what I am is changing to something I am really not, and therefore is inauthentic" or makes you so... an irrational thought process based on false beliefs and bad logic designed to prevent change and avoid dealing with what scares you.

There is always a point of reference. That you have not yet consciously discovered it does not change that fact. There was no point in your existence when you simply popped into existence as a thinking being, needing no birth or conception. Therefore, everything is built upon something else.

In a person with rational and irrational parts, logically approaching the irrational may not always be easy, unless you have certain innate abilities or specific training. It sounds to me like your irrational self is trying to hide things from your rational self as a way of trying to prevent potential change.

DMSI is designed to be polymorphic self optimizing for this sort of reason. It's not a fully finished product yet, but it can and will deal with this sort of thing. How quickly, I don't know.

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Today, 12:59 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 11:40 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  
(Today 11:38 AM)THolt Wrote:  Hey Shannon
Idk if this has been answered or not, but is 3.2 likely to be the end of the line with regards to DSMI?

I saw you posted something a few days ago that sounded like it but I wanted to make sure

Here is the latest statement:
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8858-p...#pid171854

Shannon how is Beast 13 testing and Beast 14 if you have already started to build it?
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Today, 01:07 PM
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I'm glad Shannon is facing resistance from DMSI. Hopefully it will give him greater insight on how to build v3.2 and close the last doors of escape for our subconscious!

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Today, 04:33 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 12:35 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(Today 12:14 PM)mat422 Wrote:  Shannon I've been thinking about this for some time now and it's likely covered in the tech of DMSI which I've yet to experience. But what do you make of the fear of being inauthentic? I find one of my core values is authenticity and I believe I'm the emotional core type person you've described in other posts. It has led me to over identity with negative beliefs about myself as well as caused me to limit myself in various ways under the false assumption that it's not who I am. It is in no way logical and I find trying to deconstruct it with logic leaves nothing insightful. I'd imagine this would be covered under the huge umbrella of fear and would be addressed despite not having anything scripted specifically for it. But my main point is, my internal framework is quite illogical to me and I find a lot of my driving behavior has no point of reference, it merely exists there.

Fear of being inauthentic is similar to a basic fear of not being good enough. "Inauthentic" implies fake, false, not as good as the original, illusory, inferior, dishonest, less than. It could be taken in a lot of different directions, and given your perfectionism, I would say it's a fear that you are not good enough, and trying to be good enough or make improvements may be dealing with a fear that you cannot become better than what you started out as.

That would actually make a lot of sense, given the difficulty you have reported in advancing and making progress. In the end, it would likely boil down to an escape mechanism/excuse for failing and hiding from progress based on the belief that "changing from what I am is changing to something I am really not, and therefore is inauthentic" or makes you so... an irrational thought process based on false beliefs and bad logic designed to prevent change and avoid dealing with what scares you.

There is always a point of reference. That you have not yet consciously discovered it does not change that fact. There was no point in your existence when you simply popped into existence as a thinking being, needing no birth or conception. Therefore, everything is built upon something else.

In a person with rational and irrational parts, logically approaching the irrational may not always be easy, unless you have certain innate abilities or specific training. It sounds to me like your irrational self is trying to hide things from your rational self as a way of trying to prevent potential change.

DMSI is designed to be polymorphic self optimizing for this sort of reason. It's not a fully finished product yet, but it can and will deal with this sort of thing. How quickly, I don't know.

Thanks Shannon, this definitely gives me some stuff to think over. The good news is despite all this, I've definitely seen growth on AM6. But I had to remain very vigilant to make sure I didn't slip into this faulty thinking pattern. But the fact that I had to do that just shows my mind wasn't as aligned toward the goals of the program as I would like.
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Today, 04:46 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 12:59 PM)THolt Wrote:  
(Today 11:40 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  
(Today 11:38 AM)THolt Wrote:  Hey Shannon
Idk if this has been answered or not, but is 3.2 likely to be the end of the line with regards to DSMI?

I saw you posted something a few days ago that sounded like it but I wanted to make sure

Here is the latest statement:
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8858-p...#pid171854

Shannon how is Beast 13 testing and Beast 14 if you have already started to build it?

Beast 13 testing has been interrupted by the storm of BS happening in my life right now.

So to summarize, B13 is incredibly powerful and has the potential to achieve design spec under the right conditions, but I am and have been since the second primary test, unable to achieve those conditions.

B14 has been in development and is looking like enough of an improvement to be exciting, but... I don't know when it will be finished.

One way or the other, we are not far off.

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Today, 05:45 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 04:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(Today 12:59 PM)THolt Wrote:  
(Today 11:40 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  
(Today 11:38 AM)THolt Wrote:  Hey Shannon
Idk if this has been answered or not, but is 3.2 likely to be the end of the line with regards to DSMI?

I saw you posted something a few days ago that sounded like it but I wanted to make sure

Here is the latest statement:
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8858-p...#pid171854

Shannon how is Beast 13 testing and Beast 14 if you have already started to build it?

Beast 13 testing has been interrupted by the storm of BS happening in my life right now.

So to summarize, B13 is incredibly powerful and has the potential to achieve design spec under the right conditions, but I am and have been since the second primary test, unable to achieve those conditions.

B14 has been in development and is looking like enough of an improvement to be exciting, but... I don't know when it will be finished.

One way or the other, we are not far off.

Ok. I was just wondering. I remember you saying that B13 was almost too intense too test.

It'll be exciting how B13/14 unfold and is implemented into the final version of 6G.
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Today, 05:49 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Shannon I have a question.

What versions of DMSI you tried beside 3.1? Did you try any of 2.x series? How about the one that got people massive iois the 1.1?
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Today, 06:00 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(Today 05:49 PM)Samba99 Wrote:  Shannon I have a question.

What versions of DMSI you tried beside 3.1? Did you try any of 2.x series? How about the one that got people massive iois the 1.1?

I have used almost all of them.

I don't remember the effects of the ones before 2.5, except 1.0, which was just nuts. Insane hunger, and insane reactions - but no sex.

3.1 is so far hands down the best of them, in my opinion. It's discovered and started uprooting stuff my subconscious was doing to sabotage me I didn't even realize. And I am getting great results, even when I am low blood sugar, upset, etc.

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