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01-12-2017, 12:42 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-10-2017 06:27 AM)Different Heaven Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 04:29 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:59 AM)Different Heaven Wrote:  Which one the version of DMSI that has a 66 minutes of duration?

Version 2.1 - duration 1 hour 6 minutes

Thanks! Rolleyes

Oh f*ck so I was using the 2.1 version afterall Big Grin
How many minutes does the 2.2 version have?

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01-12-2017, 12:52 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 12:10 AM)D77 Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:04 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  I started thinking that people have more problems with the term gender-neutral than anything else. If Shannon would have simply stated the sub is suitable for all men and women than people wouldn't mind. But as he stated it is gender-neutral some people could feel like their balls are cut off. But the term "... To people of gender you are attracted to" is indeed specific, in opposite of simply saying "...attracted to people ".

On my part I just wanted more power and potency. I am kinda selfish though but I believe it will do good to us men. Also I focus on the result that as of now has not yet happen. Now I got nothing.. lol

EDIT:

Now I have think about your words maybe that phrase to people of gender you are attracted to is not a bad thing. But we cannot deny the fact, even though it is somewhat specific that it is still haven't produce the result on we are on v3. Now DMSI for men, that some badass sub right there. Smile But after the discussion I guess it just wishful thinking now.

If you follow the forum, that isn't the case. There are people getting results.

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01-12-2017, 12:53 AM
Post: #723
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 12:42 AM)Bwarrior Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 06:27 AM)Different Heaven Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 04:29 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:59 AM)Different Heaven Wrote:  Which one the version of DMSI that has a 66 minutes of duration?

Version 2.1 - duration 1 hour 6 minutes

Thanks! Rolleyes

Oh f*ck so I was using the 2.1 version afterall Big Grin
How many minutes does the 2.2 version have?

Why are you confused as to what version you are using, when every file has the version right there in the name?

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01-12-2017, 12:58 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2017 01:04 AM by Bwarrior.)
Post: #724
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 12:53 AM)Shannon Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:42 AM)Bwarrior Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 06:27 AM)Different Heaven Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 04:29 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:59 AM)Different Heaven Wrote:  Which one the version of DMSI that has a 66 minutes of duration?

Version 2.1 - duration 1 hour 6 minutes

Thanks! Rolleyes

Oh f*ck so I was using the 2.1 version afterall Big Grin
How many minutes does the 2.2 version have?

Why are you confused as to what version you are using, when every file has the version right there in the name?

Develop_Maximum_Sexual_Irresistibility_5_5G_Ultrasonic_Subliminal_%28Silent%29.m​p3 was the name of the mp3 file.

But nevermind, I did quick research Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 1 thread. I download the 2.1 first and started using it when 2.2 comes out, thinking that I'm using 2.2. LOL Big Grin So I was using 2.1 version Big Grin

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01-12-2017, 01:38 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2017 01:49 AM by FluffyBunny.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 12:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:10 AM)D77 Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:04 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  I started thinking that people have more problems with the term gender-neutral than anything else. If Shannon would have simply stated the sub is suitable for all men and women than people wouldn't mind. But as he stated it is gender-neutral some people could feel like their balls are cut off. But the term "... To people of gender you are attracted to" is indeed specific, in opposite of simply saying "...attracted to people ".

On my part I just wanted more power and potency. I am kinda selfish though but I believe it will do good to us men. Also I focus on the result that as of now has not yet happen. Now I got nothing.. lol

EDIT:

Now I have think about your words maybe that phrase to people of gender you are attracted to is not a bad thing. But we cannot deny the fact, even though it is somewhat specific that it is still haven't produce the result on we are on v3. Now DMSI for men, that some badass sub right there. Smile But after the discussion I guess it just wishful thinking now.

If you follow the forum, that isn't the case. There are people getting results.

I told you guys 3.0 wasn't going to be final. I've told you 3.1 also won't. If you're not happy with the results, wait for the final.

People who actually put in the hours to become better get results. Like when i read wolverines journal looks like he is putting good effort on going out and i am seeing him improving.

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01-12-2017, 02:52 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2017 02:54 AM by D77.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
@Fluffy:

I think we have different definition of what result mean. Correct me if I'm wrong but yours is 'I'm improving whatever that is you just improve within yourself' mine is 'you just got laid bro'. I am going out myself and doing my part too. Believe me I am. I just don't journal well yet my reason is it will just be the same as the others. I just suggest and discuss stuff with Shannon.

I have 2 FB and well the other one, that chick is complicated but all of this is before dmsi. In spite of that, I want my grand sexual adventure full of beautiful women that I will continuously f*ck. If you seen what I've seen you'll really feel that you have been left out despite of your sexual experience. I'm really serious about this. The amount of beautiful women I meet here, wow just wow. I want to take them all and create a harem.

Shannon mentioned that the task at hand is seemingly impossible. That's BS, I have known people with similar lifestyle. I believe Shannon can do it because this lifestyle have been live before by many men. If they have done it without the aid of the principles and power we are using now, so we all can because we have an edge over them. That is why I am suggesting many different things that will eventually lead to the result.

The women over here I want to take them all. If I just get a window and Shannon finally develop it as powerful as f*ck, I'll escalate likes there's no tomorrow. The best way I know if all else fail is to be direct as Dzeemo, just ask her to f*ck.
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01-12-2017, 09:00 AM
Post: #727
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
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You had me at "trainception."

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01-12-2017, 09:11 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
@Shannnon

Optimus Engine 4 sounds amazing. I'm using Optimus Engine 1 with BAMM. How will Optimus Engine 4 function exactly?
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01-12-2017, 12:41 PM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2017 01:20 PM by FluffyBunny.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 02:52 AM)D77 Wrote:  @Fluffy:

I think we have different definition of what result mean. Correct me if I'm wrong but yours is 'I'm improving whatever that is you just improve within yourself' mine is 'you just got laid bro'. I am going out myself and doing my part too. Believe me I am. I just don't journal well yet my reason is it will just be the same as the others. I just suggest and discuss stuff with Shannon.

I have 2 FB and well the other one, that chick is complicated but all of this is before dmsi. In spite of that, I want my grand sexual adventure full of beautiful women that I will continuously f*ck. If you seen what I've seen you'll really feel that you have been left out despite of your sexual experience. I'm really serious about this. The amount of beautiful women I meet here, wow just wow. I want to take them all and create a harem.

Shannon mentioned that the task at hand is seemingly impossible. That's BS, I have known people with similar lifestyle. I believe Shannon can do it because this lifestyle have been live before by many men. If they have done it without the aid of the principles and power we are using now, so we all can because we have an edge over them. That is why I am suggesting many different things that will eventually lead to the result.

The women over here I want to take them all. If I just get a window and Shannon finally develop it as powerful as f*ck, I'll escalate likes there's no tomorrow. The best way I know if all else fail is to be direct as Dzeemo, just ask her to f*ck.

Good to hear that you are putting solid effort into it. Keep it up, and trust me one day it will pay off

For me i was a hardcase when i first started off and i am not joking...
If you were talking about scale of 0-50 on how good i was interms of with woman i would say i was around a 3/50.

I had zero idea about anything, and i dont have the physical attributes either or anything else. long story short took me 4ish years plus to start seeing more solid results.

i never really got into outgame and i was stubborn as **** to just keep doing what i was doing... so results ended that somehow my inner game ended becoming as solid as it can be without abundance. and when even a little bit of abundance was added in, it was like a hyper boost haha

funny thing my very first pull ended up being a 8 lol (9 being victoria secret model)
I actually ended being pulled by her... without doing much and i just lead the way. this was before DMSI though.

During dmsi i had gone on a date and i suggested to bounce to another pub and the girl suggested to go to her place
of course i am aiming to being able to lay the woman i want

What i am seeing with DMSI A is that it is clearing out you, resulting in shedding out more of the unnecessary stuff , which resulting you to become more attractive.
Just being attractive itself wont really get you laid otherwise every hot looking 9 dudes should technically be swimming in pussies.

What you talked about seems more like a social circle status game...if thats what you want you might wanna look more into that.

anyways sounds like you are moving towards where u are. i would say just be grateful of how many hot women u have access to. most people dont get that privilege and be patient with the results thing.

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01-12-2017, 02:23 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Optimus Engine 4...Holy Moley Batman! dayuuuumm sam...whats next outta body back in 5 minutes! geez. sometimes when I read all this good shit and the results some of the men are having,here I can hardly contain my enthusiasum! geez. THolt ,Man can you imagine BAMM w/ Optimus Engine 6!? shit! what d I mean Optimus engine 6? well LOOK at where we are RIGHT NOW,Man! Mr.Matheson has just come up with such a complex model,a model so fierce he had to re-dubb it Optimus Engine 4 !! BAMM wont be out until later this year, if not sometime in 2018 and By then who the heck knows where the OE will be..so yeah OE 6 is entirely possible and plausable too. this stuff is so amazing to me it s like watching enstein work his magic...or even better Telsa and Dr.Royal Rife!!

Ultra success combo in 6G OE 4....forget the lere jet, were talkin' hyper jump,start trek stuff
Attract Your Perfect Beloved One,Set of Platonic Friends,grocery basket,,hell IDK..the list is potentially endless..

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01-12-2017, 04:10 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 02:23 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:  Optimus Engine 4...Holy Moley Batman! dayuuuumm sam...whats next outta body back in 5 minutes! geez. sometimes when I read all this good shit and the results some of the men are having,here I can hardly contain my enthusiasum! geez. THolt ,Man can you imagine BAMM w/ Optimus Engine 6!? shit! what d I mean Optimus engine 6? well LOOK at where we are RIGHT NOW,Man! Mr.Matheson has just come up with such a complex model,a model so fierce he had to re-dubb it Optimus Engine 4 !! BAMM wont be out until later this year, if not sometime in 2018 and By then who the heck knows where the OE will be..so yeah OE 6 is entirely possible and plausable too. this stuff is so amazing to me it s like watching enstein work his magic...or even better Telsa and Dr.Royal Rife!!

Ultra success combo in 6G OE 4....forget the lere jet, were talkin' hyper jump,start trek stuff
Attract Your Perfect Beloved One,Set of Platonic Friends,grocery basket,,hell IDK..the list is potentially endless..

I don't know what the **** you're talking about, but god damn your enthusiasm is contagious.
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01-12-2017, 04:36 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 02:23 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:  Optimus Engine 4...Holy Moley Batman! dayuuuumm sam...whats next outta body back in 5 minutes! geez. sometimes when I read all this good shit and the results some of the men are having,here I can hardly contain my enthusiasum! geez. THolt ,Man can you imagine BAMM w/ Optimus Engine 6!? shit! what d I mean Optimus engine 6? well LOOK at where we are RIGHT NOW,Man! Mr.Matheson has just come up with such a complex model,a model so fierce he had to re-dubb it Optimus Engine 4 !! BAMM wont be out until later this year, if not sometime in 2018 and By then who the heck knows where the OE will be..so yeah OE 6 is entirely possible and plausable too. this stuff is so amazing to me it s like watching enstein work his magic...or even better Telsa and Dr.Royal Rife!!

Ultra success combo in 6G OE 4....forget the lere jet, were talkin' hyper jump,start trek stuff
Attract Your Perfect Beloved One,Set of Platonic Friends,grocery basket,,hell IDK..the list is potentially endless..
(01-12-2017 04:10 PM)Bookstacks DC737 Wrote:  I don't know what the **** you're talking about, but god damn your enthusiasm is contagious.
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1233-p...#pid152152
Shannon Wrote:Optimus Engine 3.3 is getting so much of an upgrade that I am forced to use a major version number... MHS 5.5G will introduce Optimus Engine 4.0. Still gt a lot more work to do on it, but it's a lot different, and becoming a lot more powerful.
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01-12-2017, 05:45 PM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2017 05:46 PM by About.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
I've been reading the goals of DMSI

Quote:Goal #1: Develop, project and communicate to others, through body language, vocalization, actions, choices and especially the personal energy field (“Aura”), the maximum possible sexual irresistibility. Simple, obvious, to the point. We want you to generate, develop and project a personal presence that is extremely obvious, magnetically attractive and sexually irresistible to people of the gender(s) you find sexually attractive. (Exact goal phrasing is currently secret to prevent placebo effect during testing.) The aim of this goal is to get them to notice you, be magnetically, sexually and irresistibly attracted to you, and then (to whatever degree you allow) have them act on that attraction by initiating and having sex with you (repeatedly, in V2.0 and later). Regardless of what you happen to be doing, wearing, look like, etc. etc. This of course is limited by what you are willing to do in response to their interest and efforts to initiate and have sex with you.

The part that sticks out to me and i want to ask for some clarification. It's only the gender of which we find sexually attractive (women in my case), not to a level of specified attractiveness? I'm pretty sure I got a hit, but I didn't want to act on it because I was not attracted to the person --- since I didn't just outright sleep with the person, would this be considered resistance?
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01-12-2017, 10:15 PM
Post: #734
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 09:11 AM)THolt Wrote:  @Shannnon

Optimus Engine 4 sounds amazing. I'm using Optimus Engine 1 with BAMM. How will Optimus Engine 4 function exactly?

The major difference between OE1 and 2 was that V2 has 4 more statements than 1. 3.x refined 2 to a significant degree. 4.x optimizes 3.x in both what is said and how it is said in the script, hopefully to the furthest it can be optimized.

How will Optimus Engine 4 function exactly? Very well, thank you.

It will reverse the forms (CORE-A and CORE-B) of the core statement, but this is immaterial. This just depends on what I define as being CORE-A and CORE-B. The reversal comes as a result of having accidentally erased the labels and then accidentally reversing the forms while working.

While verifying, I noted that the script said CORE-A where it should have said CORE-B, so I changed it and went through looking for any other instances of that error. When I finished, and every statement had it, I realized that it was just a matter of having reversed the value of variables CORE-A and CORE-B. Had no effect, made no difference, as long as the forms are correct for the grammar they are used with. I recreated the labels, so this won't need to be done again, but it was not the error I thought I was seeing.

But this also forced an optimization run, and some parts of the script have gotten a huge optimization boost.

So OE4 will be a very highly optimized version of OE3. And it will be significantly more powerful and effective than 3.x was as a result. Hopefully, 4.0 is the end of the line.

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01-12-2017, 10:17 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 02:23 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:  Optimus Engine 4...Holy Moley Batman! dayuuuumm sam...whats next outta body back in 5 minutes! geez. sometimes when I read all this good shit and the results some of the men are having,here I can hardly contain my enthusiasum! geez. THolt ,Man can you imagine BAMM w/ Optimus Engine 6!? shit! what d I mean Optimus engine 6? well LOOK at where we are RIGHT NOW,Man! Mr.Matheson has just come up with such a complex model,a model so fierce he had to re-dubb it Optimus Engine 4 !! BAMM wont be out until later this year, if not sometime in 2018 and By then who the heck knows where the OE will be..so yeah OE 6 is entirely possible and plausable too. this stuff is so amazing to me it s like watching enstein work his magic...or even better Telsa and Dr.Royal Rife!!

Ultra success combo in 6G OE 4....forget the lere jet, were talkin' hyper jump,start trek stuff
Attract Your Perfect Beloved One,Set of Platonic Friends,grocery basket,,hell IDK..the list is potentially endless..

I'm hoping OE4 is the end of development, because re-optimizing the same technology all the time is taking time away from creating and optimizing new technology. But maybe I'll find a better way to describe what I want done with the script or something. In the mean time, OE4 is likely gonna be "it" for a long time to come. But hooboy, is that there purdy!

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01-12-2017, 10:27 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
@Shannon:

Is there a possibility, without revising months of your work in dmsi, to make it a very specific sub design for straight men by use of one or few statements? (ideally one statement) A statement that will be a match and will cover all the goals, satt, healing and clearing etc. and make it specific to us men making the ladies irresistibly attracted to us? For example add a statement like:

...To people of gender you are attracted to [and this will be inserted]
'and since I am a heterosexual male I define the word gender here as woman' (vice versa to women)

With this we will never waste any of your work and in my impression will make it easy for you overall and make it easy to create another product out of it. With this also the energy is pooled in one direction and we now have a specific definition for the product. Added to that, we can turn natural seduction for everyone into it's proper form, suited for us, natural seduction for men.

I don't know the level of technology you have with regards to recording but I believe it is high enough that we can play this one statement after every line of statement in dmsi.

This is just my suggestion. This is now different in our past discussion since we will never revise anything, just add a statement that will cover and be a match for all of the statements, tech, etc. in dmsi.
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01-12-2017, 10:34 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 05:45 PM)About Wrote:  I've been reading the goals of DMSI

Quote:Goal #1: Develop, project and communicate to others, through body language, vocalization, actions, choices and especially the personal energy field (“Aura”), the maximum possible sexual irresistibility. Simple, obvious, to the point. We want you to generate, develop and project a personal presence that is extremely obvious, magnetically attractive and sexually irresistible to people of the gender(s) you find sexually attractive. (Exact goal phrasing is currently secret to prevent placebo effect during testing.) The aim of this goal is to get them to notice you, be magnetically, sexually and irresistibly attracted to you, and then (to whatever degree you allow) have them act on that attraction by initiating and having sex with you (repeatedly, in V2.0 and later). Regardless of what you happen to be doing, wearing, look like, etc. etc. This of course is limited by what you are willing to do in response to their interest and efforts to initiate and have sex with you.

The part that sticks out to me and i want to ask for some clarification. It's only the gender of which we find sexually attractive (women in my case), not to a level of specified attractiveness? I'm pretty sure I got a hit, but I didn't want to act on it because I was not attracted to the person --- since I didn't just outright sleep with the person, would this be considered resistance?

The program responds to your gender preference sexually, and how attracted you are to them.

Remember that you can and will get hits because of the baseline effects of DMSI - it's "idling" state, where there is little to no sniping activity going on. They just won't be common.

Resistance is when you're trying to stop the program from achieving its goals.

If you came across a stunner and she was all over you, and you shot her down because [insert lame, stupid, ridiculous reason here], that would be resistance and self sabotage.

Not being particularly interested to begin with does not sound like self sabotage or resistance.

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01-12-2017, 10:35 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Wow. Dude, do you seriously not trust yourself that much? Afraid you'll go gay out of nowhere? Seems irrational to me...

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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
@Sarge

If your talking to me of course I trust myself. I just want to suggest things I thought might help to get to the desired result. I always finding ways. And if you practice manifestation meditation, words have power in them and by being specific you turn this river to one specific direction - anything to get to there fast. I just want the result man, I am patient but not as patient as you all here. This maybe selfish to some extent because I am thinking only to us men, but if you consider my points it has value in them. This is my last suggestion before leaving dmsi, and buy other of his subs.
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01-12-2017, 10:51 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-12-2017 10:46 PM)D77 Wrote:  @Sarge

If your talking to me of course I trust myself. I just want to suggest things I thought might help to get to the desired result. I always finding ways. And if you practice manifestation meditation, words have power in them and by being specific you turn this river to one specific direction - anything to get to there fast. I just want the result man, I am patient but not as patient as you all here. This maybe selfish to some extent because I am thinking only to us men, but if you consider my points it has value in them. This is my last suggestion before leaving dmsi, and buy other of his subs.

I don't know if you're aware but aventus just lost his v while on dmsi... I think the scripting is fine.

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