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12-13-2016, 09:09 PM
Post: #61
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(12-13-2016 09:00 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  If that were the case, I'd be enthralled by my wife's aura. I'm no more or less attracted to her, and not experiencing any of the other effects our auras are supposed to be exhibiting on others (ie celebrity). Yet, she won't leave me alone - her jabberbox is on full tilt!

To me, all the examples listed so far could be all sorts of other things and people are coming to conclusions that aren't necessarily accurate. If this is truly a thing, we'll all see it, and it will be replicated again and again over time.

So...let's give it time.

It's interesting to me you've never experienced this. It's also interesting what you say about your wife being a chatterbox. Women are talking to me lots too but not the hot ones as of yet. Tongue

Any tips on how to talk to women RT?

(12-13-2016 09:01 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:  They may pick up the aura, but they can't copy the subconscious programming, which is most important. So they can't really be as good as us, with that being said you always want to isolate women anyways, or at least not be the least attractive guy in a group.

Well, DMSI is supposed to make us the most attractive in the group... so yeah.

But I agree with RT, if it's a real thing, it will keep happening with those we associate with. So let's wait and see.

Like I said, I only had it happen with SM for me. DMSI hasn't had this happen at all. I was just saying, that IF it did, it would be a problem.

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12-13-2016, 09:52 PM
Post: #62
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Well the bad part it that if you have a girlfriend and it's copying your aura she will attract a lot of guys. And it will make her cheat.
Oh and btw, I've experienced state transfer too with one of my best mates, he got seduced several times by women including his current girlfriend while I was on 2.3.
Well what really suckz is that he got the results while he didn't experience the turbulence of resistance.
I had the worst resistance on 2.3 btw. It was the lamest, saddest most depressing type of resistance.
Even if it's my best friend and I really want him to succeed, it's hard while I experience that level of crazyness and he still gets results better than me.
Happened on AM too, he clearly became more alpha.
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12-13-2016, 10:03 PM
Post: #63
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(12-13-2016 09:52 PM)bogdy Wrote:  Well the bad part it that if you have a girlfriend and it's copying your aura she will attract a lot of guys. And it will make her cheat.
Oh and btw, I've experienced state transfer too with one of my best mates, he got seduced several times by women including his current girlfriend while I was on 2.3.
Well what really suckz is that he got the results while he didn't experience the turbulence of resistance.
I had the worst resistance on 2.3 btw. It was the lamest, saddest most depressing type of resistance.
Even if it's my best friend and I really want him to succeed, it's hard while I experience that level of crazyness and he still gets results better than me.
Happened on AM too, he clearly became more alpha.

Yeah, that kind of shit shouldn't happen.

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12-13-2016, 10:17 PM
Post: #64
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(12-13-2016 09:00 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  If that were the case, I'd be enthralled by my wife's aura. I'm no more or less attracted to her, and not experiencing any of the other effects our auras are supposed to be exhibiting on others (ie celebrity). Yet, she won't leave me alone - her jabberbox is on full tilt!

To me, all the examples listed so far could be all sorts of other things and people are coming to conclusions that aren't necessarily accurate. If this is truly a thing, we'll all see it, and it will be replicated again and again over time.

So...let's give it time.

You having a wife might cause you to not execute the program...FOR NOW. Give it time Tongue
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12-13-2016, 10:17 PM
Post: #65
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Personally, I have to think you guys are imagining there is a correlation where there is not. I see no way it is possible.

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12-13-2016, 10:28 PM
Post: #66
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(12-13-2016 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Personally, I have to think you guys are imagining there is a correlation where there is not. I see no way it is possible.

I genuinely hope you're right Shannon.

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12-13-2016, 10:34 PM
Post: #67
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(12-13-2016 10:28 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Personally, I have to think you guys are imagining there is a correlation where there is not. I see no way it is possible.

I genuinely hope you're right Shannon.

Well I reserve the right to be wrong. There are some far out ways it might be happening... but I don't see anything that seems even remotely reasonable for this... so I'm going to say there is no correlation until I see either sufficient evidence, or a reasonable way to explain it.

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12-13-2016, 10:56 PM
Post: #68
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(12-13-2016 10:34 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:28 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Personally, I have to think you guys are imagining there is a correlation where there is not. I see no way it is possible.

I genuinely hope you're right Shannon.

Well I reserve the right to be wrong. There are some far out ways it might be happening... but I don't see anything that seems even remotely reasonable for this... so I'm going to say there is no correlation until I see either sufficient evidence, or a reasonable way to explain it.

Well not everything can be explained right?

I mean, we now have 3 (i think) people on here who say it has happened with their friends (me, chaos, and bogdy). It's more than a coincidence at this point. Just because it can't be explained by you, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

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12-13-2016, 11:18 PM
Post: #69
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(12-13-2016 10:56 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:34 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:28 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Personally, I have to think you guys are imagining there is a correlation where there is not. I see no way it is possible.

I genuinely hope you're right Shannon.

Well I reserve the right to be wrong. There are some far out ways it might be happening... but I don't see anything that seems even remotely reasonable for this... so I'm going to say there is no correlation until I see either sufficient evidence, or a reasonable way to explain it.

Well not everything can be explained right?

I mean, we now have 3 (i think) people on here who say it has happened with their friends (me, chaos, and bogdy). It's more than a coincidence at this point. Just because it can't be explained by you, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

That level of "correlation" is still not "correlation". Three people are capable of misinterpreting things. So no, it cannot be said with anything close to reasonable certainty that it is beyond coincidence.

And for the record... if I am having a hard time explaining it... that means it's pretty damned unlikely. I take into account a lot of variables most people would never think of, and don't even know about. So far I still see nothing that would explain such a phenomenon.

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12-13-2016, 11:30 PM
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(12-13-2016 11:18 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:56 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:34 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:28 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Personally, I have to think you guys are imagining there is a correlation where there is not. I see no way it is possible.

I genuinely hope you're right Shannon.

Well I reserve the right to be wrong. There are some far out ways it might be happening... but I don't see anything that seems even remotely reasonable for this... so I'm going to say there is no correlation until I see either sufficient evidence, or a reasonable way to explain it.

Well not everything can be explained right?

I mean, we now have 3 (i think) people on here who say it has happened with their friends (me, chaos, and bogdy). It's more than a coincidence at this point. Just because it can't be explained by you, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

That level of "correlation" is still not "correlation". Three people are capable of misinterpreting things. So no, it cannot be said with anything close to reasonable certainty that it is beyond coincidence.

And for the record... if I am having a hard time explaining it... that means it's pretty damned unlikely. I take into account a lot of variables most people would never think of, and don't even know about. So far I still see nothing that would explain such a phenomenon.

Well the idea of an aura is an information field around your physical body that exchanges information with other auras in a kind of communicative way, someone with an open aura can easily absorb impressions,feelings,and thoughts. It's not that far of a stretch to think that something non-physical could be at play here creating an effect similar to what these guys describe, especially since the aura is designed to 'reprogram' other people to begin with, that would mean overwriting or modifying someone else's information on some level,right?

I don't think it would be permanent though, even if this effect is so. Quantum entanglement and entrainment may not work in linear ways and this is so new...I assume you've heard of morphic fields before? Your subs and this community keep creating one that's more and more well defined as time goes on, it's very much possible that the DMSI thought-field may be established to the point where other people may be plugging into it without even needing the sub. Which might be happening subconsciously.
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12-14-2016, 12:06 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2016 12:07 AM by Raz.)
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Back during my first BASE run I thought I was experiencing something similar to what Sarge described with me listening to the sub and a close friend seemingly getting the effects. He was my flatmate but our rooms were separated by one and a half feet of concrete wall. Hence unlikely that he got much of the ultrasonic, when I played it over speakers. And most of the time I used headphones anyway.

I touched upon this in my journal somewhere. Now he is kinda like a living embodiment of something BASE should bring out. I remember us talking a lot and me making tons of points that were clearly induced by the sub. And that is the point. We talk, we write and other people are influenced. Some people are so very good at learning and absorbing that it seems like magically transferring subliminal contents from us to them.

Now after some time going our separate ways, my friend comes back and tells me out of the blue how he understood what I was getting at in our heated debates, for example on crafting audience specific presentations that make sure every last one understands in easy terms what you are talking about, how he implements it and how tremendously effective it is.

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12-14-2016, 12:12 AM
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(12-14-2016 12:06 AM)Raz Wrote:  Back during my first BASE run I thought I was experiencing something similar to what Sarge described with me listening to the sub and a close friend seemingly getting the effects. He was my flatmate but our rooms were separated by one and a half feet of concrete wall. Hence unlikely that he got much of the ultrasonic, when I played it over speakers. And most of the time I used headphones anyway.

I touched upon this in my journal somewhere. Now he is kinda like a living embodiment of something BASE should bring out. I remember us talking a lot and me making tons of points that were clearly induced by the sub. And that is the point. We talk, we write and other people are influenced. Some people are so very good at learning and absorbing that it seems like magically transferring subliminal contents from us to them.

Now after some time going our separate ways, my friend comes back and tells me out of the blue how he understood what I was getting at in our heated debates, for example on crafting audience specific presentations that make sure every last one understands in easy terms what you are talking about, how he implements it and how tremendously effective it is.

"They took from their surroundings what was needed and created something new."

If you played BASE on speakers, it is a very good bet that you programmed him with it at a low volume through the wall, and that is why he "got results".

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12-14-2016, 12:16 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2016 12:38 AM by Raz.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(12-14-2016 12:12 AM)Shannon Wrote:  If you played BASE on speakers, it is a very good bet that you programmed him with it at a low volume through the wall, and that is why he "got results".

While I cannot exclude that 100 percent, he would have gotten only fragments content wise due to our circumstances back then.

EDIT: I cannot resist to open up that can of worms: Let's say he got something out of me playing subs in the same flat that he happened to be in. Why would his 'results' be so extraordinarily higher than mine when he got only 5 percent (just to throw out a number) of the exposure I got? From only one run, while I did run it again since.

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12-14-2016, 04:06 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2016 04:11 AM by dweller94.)
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I can relate to this when I was using 2.3 or 2.4, so there's a friend of mine who is really good with women (noAA), so I met with him and we were chilling blah blah, long story short we met a couple of girls at a sheesha lounge he gets her snapchat, couple hours later he f*cked her in the car after two hours of meeting her. She asked to see him at a parking lot and it went down.

So the whole point of me chilling with him is that I am awful at approaching, no problems with anything else, its the approaching bit I suck at, which was the reason why I was with him? I thought he was winging me you know ( OE ) finding ways to bring forward the goal even though I was resisting the sub back then. So I arranged a meet with him again, this time he was bringing a couple of girls down, when I'm with this guy sh*t always goes down but this time he didn't turn up or let me know why he didn't. It took this guy 1 month to let me know that he supposedly got in to a fight so he couldn't make it. I thought **** this, idgaf never will I rely on anyone to help me attain my desires, Lesson learned.

I say this because she a strong religious type but yeah DMSI don't give a f*ck about that, I know DMSI got her triggered but he kind of relieved her pressure, not that I can remember clearly but I think Shannon added/adjusted v3 so that the affected would only cause the affected to focus themselves and their urges on having sex with the user. Surely this will prevent it, if the case ?

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12-14-2016, 04:35 AM
Post: #75
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(12-14-2016 12:16 AM)Raz Wrote:  
(12-14-2016 12:12 AM)Shannon Wrote:  If you played BASE on speakers, it is a very good bet that you programmed him with it at a low volume through the wall, and that is why he "got results".

While I cannot exclude that 100 percent, he would have gotten only fragments content wise due to our circumstances back then.

EDIT: I cannot resist to open up that can of worms: Let's say he got something out of me playing subs in the same flat that he happened to be in. Why would his 'results' be so extraordinarily higher than mine when he got only 5 percent (just to throw out a number) of the exposure I got? From only one run, while I did run it again since.

I just thought of this but maybe his results are better because his subconscious was not aware of the sub. Where as your subconscious knew about it because you were intentionally trying to program it. His mind may have taken it just as normal programming while your mind perceived it as opposition.

I could be spewing nonsense but those are just my thoughts on what you experienced
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12-14-2016, 04:59 AM
Post: #76
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(12-14-2016 04:35 AM)Superman Wrote:  I just thought of this but maybe his results are better because his subconscious was not aware of the sub. Where as your subconscious knew about it because you were intentionally trying to program it. His mind may have taken it just as normal programming while your mind perceived it as opposition.

I could be spewing nonsense but those are just my thoughts on what you experienced

That would mean I am massively stonewalling subliminals in general because of the giant differences in a) exposure (with me mostly using headphones for maximum impact) and b) exposure time.

Would not surprise me on my part of the equation though. It'd be frustrating and amazing at the same time to see what these programs are capable of with my own eyes, but not being the one that profits in this way, although being the one that invested in it.

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12-14-2016, 05:25 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2016 05:31 AM by soulfly1.)
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
I think alot of this has to do with subconscious influence. We pick up all kinds of cue's and signals and we model people all the time. You changing may well cause other people to change aswell, as they subconsciously notice differences and tap into that. People also limit themselves constantly. So seeing someone become suddenly more succesful, more sexy, more attractive, or doing something wild allows us to feel like we can do it aswell or can/should be on the same level.

I've noticed this effect even before running subs. Changes within me are sometimes (usually on a low level or even temporary because the initial desire behind it isn't real for them) copied/mimiced subconsciously by other people. We live in a universe of memes.
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12-14-2016, 05:39 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2016 05:39 AM by Funky Trunks.)
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Does anyone have an example screenshot of using frequensee and correct db level? I've been wondering for a while now if it's been right or not. The bar starts at 20khz and then slightly tilts towards less than 20 when it gets to -50db on full voulme with my iPad speaker. Does this sound about right? So, in effect, I'm probably getting it at -60 as it begins to tilt.

Also, I've switched my speaker to my JBL and I noticed that when I play it at a lower volume which is around the -50db mark it crackles a little bit. Not overly noticable but you hear the odd crackle now and again. Any reasons for that?
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12-14-2016, 05:50 AM
Post: #79
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(12-13-2016 08:44 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 08:08 PM)eternity Wrote:  
(12-13-2016 03:58 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
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(12-13-2016 03:49 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  How do you stop it then or protect your gains from the subs?

I mean, it's like if I'm doing weight lifting but my brother develops the muscles. It's not right lol.

I haven't tried, nor will I. If we're truly dealing with some natural phenomena as a result of listening to such powerful subs, then it's not my place to try and stop it. Perhaps it's some kind of localized balancing effect built into nature. That's my wild, unproven guess.

So, what... I gotta let people steal my vibes just because? That doesn't sound right.

Calm down sarge Smile

It's so much easier to let it slide than worrying so much about it lol

I had a really good friend who picked up my sm3 aura just by being around me. The dude had 2 girls fighting over who got to have him for that one night. I was actually happy for my friend.

I guess you're right... in fact, if this is the case, I might as well just stop buying subs and simply read journals and get my transferred benefits!

I hope you see the problem now...

I get why you're frustrated. There's a chance it's just coincidence and none of it matters. Big Grin

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12-14-2016, 06:45 AM
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(12-14-2016 05:39 AM)Funky Trunks Wrote:  Does anyone have an example screenshot of using frequensee and correct db level? I've been wondering for a while now if it's been right or not. The bar starts at 20khz and then slightly tilts towards less than 20 when it gets to -50db on full voulme with my iPad speaker. Does this sound about right? So, in effect, I'm probably getting it at -60 as it begins to tilt.

Also, I've switched my speaker to my JBL and I noticed that when I play it at a lower volume which is around the -50db mark it crackles a little bit. Not overly noticable but you hear the odd crackle now and again. Any reasons for that?

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