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12-04-2016, 03:39 PM
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(12-04-2016 03:24 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:  I just read about your party with the Russians and your supervisor returning from Australia. This is why for some reason I thought you were from Europe (German). I know that you reside in Canada.

I see, you thought I was from Germany but live in Canada?

Yes, I do live in Canada, but was born here too. Smile

(12-04-2016 03:24 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:  What does B2B mean? When you talked about B2B sales...

Business to Business.

I hope to be able to help implement some Tony Robbins Business principles into our business as I want to see us succeed. I assume my boss wants to take our company to new heights, so I'm coming at it from that angle, though I'll have to ask about his specific goals for the company when we meet next.

In the meantime, here are some videos I'd recommend to anyone interested in improving your business.

For me, I apply these to my life as well, because as an individual, the principles apply to us as if we were the business.

Creating Raving Fans vs. Satisfied Customers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv_WYEOEzGU

People Buy Feelings, Not Things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iRUJv6knQk

Long one but good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ip9ecPSJRI

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12-04-2016, 06:19 PM
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So... spent the day researching B2B stuff and watching Tony Robbins videos. Nothing so far, just learning about all these new paradigms.

The problem comes when things get complicated in the form of contradictions. It's difficult but I think I'll be able to reconcile it all. It comes down to trusting those who are successful and trusting that they know what they're talking about. "Suspending disbelief" is another good trick, especially when learning new ways to operate, and new ways to innovate.

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12-05-2016, 06:38 AM
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Really obsessed with integrity and honesty atm. I'm also finding it hard to have integrity when it is attacked by others. No doubt, I still care what others think, but my reasoning is: if what others think has power over your mortality, shouldn't you care?

Survival instinct is a powerful thing.

Still, from going into this I realize I've always been around people who do not want to discuss things, and would resort to violence to avoid having to confront things. This was true with my parents, classmates, school teachers, etc.

When one knows how the world works, one can adapt to it, but in this case, adapting to the world means not having integrity, so it is a massive conundrum. The only option I see in reconciling it is to value one thing more (i.e. value my survival more than my other values which would prompt me to say or do things that would, by extension, threaten my survival) than the other.

One of the things I'm reading to try and come to terms with this is Ray Dalio's "Principles". The guy is a multi billionaire (one of the richest in the world) so I figured he'd be a good role model.

One particular passage that strikes me is this one:

"I learned that everyone makes mistakes and has weaknesses and that one of the most important things that differentiates people is their approach to handling them. I learned that there is an incredible beauty to mistakes because embedded in each mistake is a puzzle, and a gem that I could get if I solved it, i.e., a principle that I could use to reduce my mistakes in the future. I learned that each mistake was probably a reflection of something that I was (or others were) doing wrong, so if I could figure out what that was, I could learn how to be more effective. I learned that wrestling with my problems, mistakes, and weaknesses was the training that strengthened me. Also, I learned that it was the pain of this wrestling that made me and those around me appreciate our successes."

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12-05-2016, 06:55 AM
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(12-05-2016 06:38 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  Really obsessed with integrity and honesty atm. I'm also finding it hard to have integrity when it is attacked by others. No doubt, I still care what others think, but my reasoning is: if what others think has power over your mortality, shouldn't you care?

Survival instinct is a powerful thing.

Still, from going into this I realize I've always been around people who do not want to discuss things, and would resort to violence to avoid having to confront things. This was true with my parents, classmates, school teachers, etc.

When one knows how the world works, one can adapt to it, but in this case, adapting to the world means not having integrity, so it is a massive conundrum. The only option I see in reconciling it is to value one thing more (i.e. value my survival more than my other values which would prompt me to say or do things that would, by extension, threaten my survival) than the other.

One of the things I'm reading to try and come to terms with this is Ray Dalio's "Principles". The guy is a multi billionaire (one of the richest in the world) so I figured he'd be a good role model.

One particular passage that strikes me is this one:

"I learned that everyone makes mistakes and has weaknesses and that one of the most important things that differentiates people is their approach to handling them. I learned that there is an incredible beauty to mistakes because embedded in each mistake is a puzzle, and a gem that I could get if I solved it, i.e., a principle that I could use to reduce my mistakes in the future. I learned that each mistake was probably a reflection of something that I was (or others were) doing wrong, so if I could figure out what that was, I could learn how to be more effective. I learned that wrestling with my problems, mistakes, and weaknesses was the training that strengthened me. Also, I learned that it was the pain of this wrestling that made me and those around me appreciate our successes."

That's a great book. I read it once before.

What Dalio did in the world of Hedge Funds is amazing. I believe at one time Bridgewater was managing 150 Billion in Assets.

The level you are devouring information and books these days is incredible Sarge!

At my best, I read two books a week.

If you have some time, I'd love to get a list of the books you felt were most impactful to you. I need some new reading material. Smile
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12-05-2016, 07:58 AM
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(12-05-2016 06:55 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote:  That's a great book. I read it once before.

What Dalio did in the world of Hedge Funds is amazing. I believe at one time Bridgewater was managing 150 Billion in Assets.

The level you are devouring information and books these days is incredible Sarge!

At my best, I read two books a week.

If you have some time, I'd love to get a list of the books you felt were most impactful to you. I need some new reading material. Smile


Thanks man. I actually haven't read that many books cover-to-cover (something I'm working to change). I often read a bit then lose interest or (in the case of Ray Dalio), I get interested but wonder if I should continue taking their advice.

Basically I looked up Ray's wife and wasn't impressed lol. So I wondered "should I really take advice from this man?"

So, for me, it's about going after what I want (which is what Ray advocates, ironically) but when I see someone without the results I want, I find it hard to take advice from them.

Anyhow, I'm rambling. But, if you want good books, just go for ones that are in line with your goals I'd say. Because, if I'm honest, the only books I've read cover-to-cover (non-fiction) are:

- How To Win Friends and Influence People
- Everybody's Normal Till You Get to Know them (and this one was hard to get through. I didn't identify with the guy at all, but there were a few gems, which is why I'm trying to actually finish books now instead of stop reading if I disagree. It should never be an "all or nothing" paradigm. Everyone has gems you can use to make yourself more effective at areas you want to be good at.)

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12-05-2016, 08:24 AM
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(12-05-2016 07:58 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 06:55 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote:  That's a great book. I read it once before.

What Dalio did in the world of Hedge Funds is amazing. I believe at one time Bridgewater was managing 150 Billion in Assets.

The level you are devouring information and books these days is incredible Sarge!

At my best, I read two books a week.

If you have some time, I'd love to get a list of the books you felt were most impactful to you. I need some new reading material. Smile


Thanks man. I actually haven't read that many books cover-to-cover (something I'm working to change). I often read a bit then lose interest or (in the case of Ray Dalio), I get interested but wonder if I should continue taking their advice.

Basically I looked up Ray's wife and wasn't impressed lol. So I wondered "should I really take advice from this man?"

So, for me, it's about going after what I want (which is what Ray advocates, ironically) but when I see someone without the results I want, I find it hard to take advice from them.

Anyhow, I'm rambling. But, if you want good books, just go for ones that are in line with your goals I'd say. Because, if I'm honest, the only books I've read cover-to-cover (non-fiction) are:

- How To Win Friends and Influence People
- Everybody's Normal Till You Get to Know them (and this one was hard to get through. I didn't identify with the guy at all, but there were a few gems, which is why I'm trying to actually finish books now instead of stop reading if I disagree. It should never be an "all or nothing" paradigm. Everyone has gems you can use to make yourself more effective at areas you want to be good at.)

I'll check out the everybody's normal till you get to know them.

One book that might be interesting for you to read, not so much for advice but more so regarding your fight or flight survival instincts - The Wisdom of Psychopaths by Kevin Dutton.

Really interesting book. You might dig some of the thoughts and content.
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12-05-2016, 09:40 AM
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(12-05-2016 08:24 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote:  I'll check out the everybody's normal till you get to know them.

One book that might be interesting for you to read, not so much for advice but more so regarding your fight or flight survival instincts - The Wisdom of Psychopaths by Kevin Dutton.

Really interesting book. You might dig some of the thoughts and content.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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12-05-2016, 03:29 PM
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No, stop, dont read any more ***** books.

You need this... this guy's content. Nothing else. **** EVERYTHIGN else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kic5RiKkfO4

Okay? Please. Indulge me on this. I sincerely want to help you help yourself. I can't stand this pathetic mentality you have towards yourself.
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12-05-2016, 04:36 PM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2016 05:06 PM by SargeMaximus.)
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(12-05-2016 03:29 PM)blackwing Z Wrote:  No, stop, dont read any more ***** books.

You need this... this guy's content. Nothing else. **** EVERYTHIGN else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kic5RiKkfO4

Okay? Please. Indulge me on this. I sincerely want to help you help yourself. I can't stand this pathetic mentality you have towards yourself.

I don't have a pathetic mentality towards myself, and you're not helping throwing pua shit at me. I don't even know who you are or what kind of success you have with women, so why should I listen to you??

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So anyway that was cool but now it comes down to making money and digging myself out of this shit hole I'm in.

In regards to that I've been clarifying my goals and stuff, which is good, but I need some solid actions to take. We'll see how things go.

Oh yeah and I did a lot of errands today and noticed girls were decently nice to me, but the ones I felt uber attracted to didn't seem into me. Granted, we're just passing in the mall but I mean c'mon, where's that celebrity vibe?

EDIT: Oh yeah and I forgot to mention that I'm having this urge become more and more frequent to impregnate women. Like I want to put babies in them. I wonder if that's the DMSI "threat" Shannon was going to add.

I should also mention that I felt that women were repulsed by me because of this but perhaps it's just taking me time to get used to it. I still see going after women as chasing tho.

Still, next time I see my hairdresser I'm going to suggest coffee. Smile

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12-05-2016, 08:59 PM
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You can't fool me. You can only fool yourself.

There is a reason why the others think you got autism or aspergers. You act like it.
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12-05-2016, 09:17 PM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2016 09:19 PM by chaosvrgn.)
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(12-05-2016 04:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  ION went to my social skills coach today. He said many times that he didn't think I had aspergers. No offense to chaos and everyone else who "told me so", but I take a guy who has credentials and 35 years of experience working with aspoergers and autism people more seriously than you guys in this matter. It's just common sense.

Dude...

If people think you have autism, Sarge, it's because of comments like this. What point did you prove other than kinda slapping people that paid you a compliment?

And for the record, I've stated this before, my close cousin has autism. When a person has Aspergers and/or anything else on the autism spectrum, it's VERY obvious. For some reason, any time a dude's an asshole, he claims he can't help it because he has the ass burgers.

My cousin spends hours stacking legos and walks with a very weird gait. He talks about shit that no one wants to hear about for hours on end because he can't tell that no one wants to hear about it. Those are symptoms of Aspergers.

You're just a natural asshole. Now -- own that shit rather than blaming the ass burgers or even paying a social coach.

Your M.O. is pretty obvious: You go into a conversation with a clear agenda and mindset. You already know what you want the outcome to be. You ask questions about life and existence, then look for any small detail possible to "disprove" what they're saying and claim it's a "contradiction." Shannon often says that you want the world to conform to your static viewpoint. He's wrong on that one.

You already think the world conforms to your static viewpoint.

Well then, own it. Whatever that static viewpoint is, OWN IT. You're wasting a lot of your time and effort on this seemingly endless quest to... prove to the entire world that it's wrong and you're right. Just be an asshole and enjoy life.

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12-05-2016, 09:28 PM
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(12-05-2016 09:17 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 04:36 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  ION went to my social skills coach today. He said many times that he didn't think I had aspergers. No offense to chaos and everyone else who "told me so", but I take a guy who has credentials and 35 years of experience working with aspoergers and autism people more seriously than you guys in this matter. It's just common sense.

Dude...

If people think you have autism, Sarge, it's because of comments like this. What point did you prove other than kinda slapping people that paid you a compliment?

I'm sorry I made you feel that way. I was just trying to be real. Not "slap" anyone. Sad

(12-05-2016 09:17 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  And for the record, I've stated this before, my close cousin has autism. When a person has Aspergers and/or anything else on the autism spectrum, it's VERY obvious. For some reason, any time a dude's an asshole, he claims he can't help it because he has the ass burgers.

My cousin spends hours stacking legos and walks with a very weird gait. He talks about shit that no one wants to hear about for hours on end because he can't tell that no one wants to hear about it. Those are symptoms of Aspergers.

You're just a natural asshole. Now -- own that shit rather than blaming the ass burgers or even paying a social coach.

Your M.O. is pretty obvious: You go into a conversation with a clear agenda and mindset. You already know what you want the outcome to be. You ask questions about life and existence, then look for any small detail possible to "disprove" what they're saying and claim it's a "contradiction." Shannon often says that you want the world to conform to your static viewpoint. He's wrong on that one.

You already think the world conforms to your static viewpoint.

Well then, own it. Whatever that static viewpoint is, OWN IT. You're wasting a lot of your time and effort on this seemingly endless quest to... prove to the entire world that it's wrong and you're right. Just be an asshole and enjoy life.

Ok.

I'm sorry, again. I'm not trying to hurt you or anyone.

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12-05-2016, 09:45 PM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2016 09:59 PM by chaosvrgn.)
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The point of my post wasn't to chastise you for being an asshole. I'm saying that you have natural asshole tendencies that you keep trying to suppress or argue away, when it seems to be your inherent personality.

I have a side of me that's cold, calculating and downright scary when it emerges. If you want to see something terrifying, physically threaten me or try to bully me in real life. The monster that emerges from my normally playful shell scares even me. Likewise, that cold, calculating personality comes out in some business dealings. I never make deals that will hurt my partners, but you better believe that I'm not going to give my talents away for free. I have colleagues that constantly try to get me to suppress that instinct. They'll give me all kinds of BS reasons that basically amounts to "I want you to be a pushover so I can deal with you easier." I tell them all to **** off. As a self-actualized individual, I know who I am and what I want. And they call me an "asshole" for that.

It seems to me that you know who and what you are, but you seem... afraid to embrace it, for lack of a better term. Perhaps you fear that people will judge you (they will), or call you names (they will) or say you're a bad person (they will say that). Fact of the matter is, the world's definition of a "good person" is usually someone who gets run over and used.

You can be "good" and an "asshole" at the same time. They really aren't contradictions. A bad person is someone who goes out of their way to cause harm to other people. An asshole is just someone that lives for themselves. That doesn't make you bad, necessarily. It CAN be bad, but it isn't inherently bad.

So, rather than trying to figure out why you "can't connect" with other people, consider the fact that the problem may lie with THEM. Maybe it's not that you can't connect, you just don't RELATE to the masses.

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12-05-2016, 09:46 PM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2016 09:51 PM by Wharrgarbl.)
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I have thought this for a while and debated if I wanted to post this but I think this may help if you are willing to consider my words.

Your tag reads INFP, I do not think you are an INFP because I am one. I believe, at the minimum you are and INFJ. The reason being you have very static viewpoints, which is a J trait not a P trait. Someone who is a J has an experience, then determines that that is the way that things work all the time, than spends time reinforcing and defending that viewpoint. Someone who is a P comes from the viewpoint that in order to see clearly, you have to let things and people TELL YOU about themselves every day. Their beliefs are more fluid and can change very rapidly.

I agree with Shannon, your belief system needs to be updated, because it appears that you are running some very "old code" that was instilled into you very early on. I don't know you very well but it looks like someone instilled some very negative beliefs in you during childhood and you took the bait because children most often don't know any better because we emulate and believe our elders instinctually.

When I read your words I see someone who is in pain but has rationalized it and justified it to the point of rock solid. Hence your combative and standoffish nature. People that are in high degrees of emotional pain, which is just another indicator that something is wrong, tend to over react because it's like touching an arrow that is lodged in the body, it hurts a bunch.

Subs will change some of your orbiting beliefs but they will never reach into the core of who you are because you are not willing to believe that others and yourself could be wrong about who you are or your capabilities as a human being.

These are my observations and could be completely off base, if they are please disregard them.

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12-05-2016, 10:18 PM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2016 10:22 PM by SargeMaximus.)
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(12-05-2016 09:45 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  The point of my post wasn't to chastise you for being an asshole. I'm saying that you have natural asshole tendencies that you keep trying to suppress or argue away, when it seems to be your inherent personality.

I have a side of me that's cold, calculating and downright scary when it emerges. If you want to see something terrifying, physically threaten me or try to bully me in real life. The monster that emerges from my normally playful shell scares even me. Likewise, that cold, calculating personality comes out in some business dealings. I never make deals that will hurt my partners, but you better believe that I'm not going to give my talents away for free. I have colleagues that constantly try to get me to suppress that instinct. They'll give me all kinds of BS reasons that basically amounts to "I want you to be a pushover so I can deal with you easier." I tell them all to **** off. As a self-actualized individual, I know who I am and what I want. And they call me an "asshole" for that.

It seems to me that you know who and what you are, but you seem... afraid to embrace it, for like of a better term. Perhaps you fear that people will judge you (they will), or call you names (they will) or say you're a bad person (they will say that). Fact of the matter is, the world's definition of a "good person" is usually someone who gets run over and used.

You can be "good" and an "asshole" at the same time. They really aren't contradictions. A bad person is someone who goes out of their way to cause harm to other people. An asshole is just someone that lives for themselves. That doesn't make you bad, necessarily. It CAN be bad, but it isn't inherently bad.

So, rather than trying to figure out why you "can't connect" with other people, consider the fact that the problem may lie with THEM. Maybe it's not that you can't connect, you just don't RELATE to the masses.

I misunderstood you then, my bad.

As always, your posts are very insightful and give me so much clarity, so thank you.

I think for me it's a combination of two things:

1. I have asshole tendencies
2. These asshole tendencies are tied to deep-rooted hurt that, when unleashed, manifest as lashing out at other people. I don't intend to hurt anyone but, as you pointed out, I do make comments that kind of "punish" people even when they are complimenting me or whatnot.

So I am afraid (as you say) to embrace it because, honestly, I'd be 100x worse than what you saw there.

But, if that's the key (or the doorway) towards self-actualization, and I need to own it like you say, then that will take some doing. I have no idea how you managed to do it, but I imagine fighting and your competence in that arena helped, which is why I want to learn to fight too.

I found a boxing gym that is pretty cheap and the conditions of enrollment are that you HAVE to train at least 3x a week and compete after 8 weeks with boxers at your level. I think that will definitely help.


(12-05-2016 09:46 PM)Wharrgarbl Wrote:  I have thought this for a while and debated if I wanted to post this but I think this may help if you are willing to consider my words.

First of all, I'm glad you've not only been mulling over my issues (you certainly don't have to) but have decided to share your insights. I really appreciate that as I believe all view points are important, so thank you.


(12-05-2016 09:46 PM)Wharrgarbl Wrote:  Your tag reads INFP, I do not think you are an INFP because I am one. I believe, at the minimum you are and INFJ. The reason being you have very static viewpoints, which is a J trait not a P trait. Someone who is a J has an experience, then determines that that is the way that things work all the time, than spends time reinforcing and defending that viewpoint. Someone who is a P comes from the viewpoint that in order to see clearly, you have to let things and people TELL YOU about themselves every day. Their beliefs are more fluid and can change very rapidly.

I do both.

INFP's supposedly try to get a consensus from those around them, which is what I'm always doing on this forum. It's not the best thing to do, I'm aware, but it's something I do. Hence why I can "flip-flop" on issues.

the "love vs. hate" argument, for example, is one i constantly wrestle with.

INFJ's do have solid beliefs and see the world as working that way, like you say. I have that as well. You're right that there were some beliefs instilled in childhood and I'm still believing them.


(12-05-2016 09:46 PM)Wharrgarbl Wrote:  I agree with Shannon, your belief system needs to be updated, because it appears that you are running some very "old code" that was instilled into you very early on. I don't know you very well but it looks like someone instilled some very negative beliefs in you during childhood and you took the bait because children most often don't know any better because we emulate and believe our elders instinctually.

Yes, this is true, but it goes beyond simply believing what people have told me. It comes from experiences which reinforce the negative beliefs.

The way out is to gain the experiences of doing things a new way and also reaping the rewards. I am well aware that I have a huge blind spot ignoring any good reactions or results from behaving the new way.

EDIT: Which reminds me, what negative beliefs do you see in me and what do you suggest I update them to?

(12-05-2016 09:46 PM)Wharrgarbl Wrote:  When I read your words I see someone who is in pain but has rationalized it and justified it to the point of rock solid. Hence your combative and standoffish nature. People that are in high degrees of emotional pain, which is just another indicator that something is wrong, tend to over react because it's like touching an arrow that is lodged in the body, it hurts a bunch.

Subs will change some of your orbiting beliefs but they will never reach into the core of who you are because you are not willing to believe that others and yourself could be wrong about who you are or your capabilities as a human being.

These are my observations and could be completely off base, if they are please disregard them.

I appreciate you sharing this with me, truly. Thank you.

The mind is a complicated thing, and it's hard to understand things at times, so I definitely appreciate an outside observation.

It was only a few years ago when I realized that a woman laughing at what I said was enjoying my company. Previously I just thought she thought I was an idiot and was laughing in my face.

Recently as well I've found it nearly impossible to believe that anything positive anyone says about me is true. I have a belief running that tells me people are just trying to make me feel better so that i do not realize the truth about how things really are, hence my distrustful treatment of compliments and, most likely, why I threw Chaos's compliment in his face without even realizing it.

So these things are deeply integrated and nearly inseparable from who I "am", which is why I have these issues.

But I'm working on challenging things and finding the evidence in the "new" way to see things so that i can break free. It takes a while but I believe it's possible, and with insights like the ones you provided, I hope to be able to keep seeing things more clearly. Please don't hold back observations if you have any in the future because I can't do this alone.

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12-06-2016, 12:08 AM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2016 12:18 AM by AbundanceCH.)
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RE: SargeMaximus: V is for... Victory [DMSI 3.0.1-A]
(12-05-2016 09:45 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  So, rather than trying to figure out why you "can't connect" with other people, consider the fact that the problem may lie with THEM. Maybe it's not that you can't connect, you just don't RELATE to the masses.
Let's not put him on a pedestal now. That itself is not good for him because when you think about it we want Sarge to be able to relate. When you relate to people you get things. You relate to women, to co-workers, to guys etc. When you can relate life is easier and you can make things happen and not just on a romantic level.

When I was younger I was like Sarge in that way. As I got older and I learned to analyze people I realized I lost a lot of opportunities. For example a friend of mine he is just a really social guy can relate to anyone make friends anywhere. If I had been able to analyze his style and see it with open eyes and realized what I could have been by incorporating some of his stuff sooner...

I think Sarge will find his way on his own and it will likely happen with age. Men get better with age like wine.

But keeping it real and honest I think Sarge will get better once he f**ks some women because I think that is where some of that anger comes from (Not having f***ed some women).

Trust me Sarge one day you will get tired of sex it's coming we are all supporting you and on your side and it's going to happen. I had sex over 140 times this year. There have been many times where I just didn't want to fk. There have been times where I fkd so much with no rest period in between that I was close to passing out (took out most of my life force without getting it replenished).

Much like with everything else you just gotta satisfy your thirst. As men we are always walking in the sahara desert looking for water (women). But once you get enough water you'll be fine.

I couldn't live without women. I would go out 3-4 times a week and be sleeping in my car during lunch because i didn't much the night before. Now I just see a woman once a week and that's because I want to make $$$ and rather do that and work on my goals than be all day with her or see her multiple times a week. Just once a week, have sex two or 3 times and i'm good. Trust me you will get to this point where you don't need them as much anymore.

Sarge you need to keep experimenting and keep learning. Just don't get frustrated when it comes to getting women. Just remember that you and all of us are cheating. With Shannon's subliminals we are getting the experience and know how to get women that it might take normal guys years to get (and we are getting it in a few weeks/months because of subliminals).

We are all cheaters in the game of life thanks to Shannon.

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12-06-2016, 03:43 AM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2016 03:44 AM by SargeMaximus.)
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RE: SargeMaximus: V is for... Victory [DMSI 3.0.1-A]
(12-06-2016 12:08 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote:  
(12-05-2016 09:45 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  So, rather than trying to figure out why you "can't connect" with other people, consider the fact that the problem may lie with THEM. Maybe it's not that you can't connect, you just don't RELATE to the masses.
Let's not put him on a pedestal now. That itself is not good for him because when you think about it we want Sarge to be able to relate. When you relate to people you get things. You relate to women, to co-workers, to guys etc. When you can relate life is easier and you can make things happen and not just on a romantic level.

When I was younger I was like Sarge in that way. As I got older and I learned to analyze people I realized I lost a lot of opportunities. For example a friend of mine he is just a really social guy can relate to anyone make friends anywhere. If I had been able to analyze his style and see it with open eyes and realized what I could have been by incorporating some of his stuff sooner...

I think Sarge will find his way on his own and it will likely happen with age. Men get better with age like wine.

But keeping it real and honest I think Sarge will get better once he f**ks some women because I think that is where some of that anger comes from (Not having f***ed some women).

Trust me Sarge one day you will get tired of sex it's coming we are all supporting you and on your side and it's going to happen. I had sex over 140 times this year. There have been many times where I just didn't want to fk. There have been times where I fkd so much with no rest period in between that I was close to passing out (took out most of my life force without getting it replenished).

Much like with everything else you just gotta satisfy your thirst. As men we are always walking in the sahara desert looking for water (women). But once you get enough water you'll be fine.

I couldn't live without women. I would go out 3-4 times a week and be sleeping in my car during lunch because i didn't much the night before. Now I just see a woman once a week and that's because I want to make $$$ and rather do that and work on my goals than be all day with her or see her multiple times a week. Just once a week, have sex two or 3 times and i'm good. Trust me you will get to this point where you don't need them as much anymore.

Sarge you need to keep experimenting and keep learning. Just don't get frustrated when it comes to getting women. Just remember that you and all of us are cheating. With Shannon's subliminals we are getting the experience and know how to get women that it might take normal guys years to get (and we are getting it in a few weeks/months because of subliminals).

We are all cheaters in the game of life thanks to Shannon.

I agree with this. It's pretty obvious that being able to relate is key, so I need to do that above all else. F*ck being "alpha" and f*ck everything else, if you can't relate to people they won't wanna stick around.

So what I need to do is find a way to relate to people even if I cant relate. Fake it till you make it kind of thing.

If I can relate to women I can f*ck them but I doubt I can f*ck them if I don't relate to them first.

If I want a certain girl, I need to relate to HER specifically, otherwise it won't work.

I also don't ascribe to feeling good about my shortcomings, because obviously that fixes nothing.

Thank you for this abundance, this is pure gold.

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Not much happened today. Spent the day researching some stuff and trying desperately to balance finding a way to improve my situation vs. plugging the holes. Seems hopeless at times.

Did a few errands including going to the library. When I went to return the laptop I was using, the same girl who was rude from last time was there. She stared at me with the "deer in headlights" look. Don't know why.

I also picked up my brother from work because it's cold as f*ck outside and I'm worried he'll freeze to death. Literally.

We stopped at the grocery store on the way back and as we were leaving, there was this SUPER hot girl and her (I assume) mom ahead of us. They were talking about whatever and then suddenly turned around, pushing past us to go wherever. I thought it was kind of telling. I should mention I moved instinctively out of the mother's way though. I didn't want a pointless conflict but that's probably indicative of a more serious problem.

Anyhow, that's about it.

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12-07-2016, 01:45 AM
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(12-06-2016 09:26 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:   She stared at me with the "deer in headlights" look. Don't know why.

DMSI maybe

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12-07-2016, 03:45 PM
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(12-07-2016 01:45 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 09:26 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:   She stared at me with the "deer in headlights" look. Don't know why.

DMSI maybe

Most likely.

Speaking of DMSI, today went out to treat my Mom for her birthday. We had a good time. First went to a restaurant then she invited me to an art showcasing taking place in a brewery., o.O

While at the restaurant there was this super annoying guy beside us watching youtube videos and laughing and making an out-loud commentary. I thought he was insane at first, then I just realized he was weird.

As we were leaving there was a cute asian coming straight towards us. I fixated on her cleavage and she looked down submissively. I then had an urge to nudge her with my elbow as we passed but I didn't.

At the brewery we got there just in time foir the brewmaster and the artist to make their respective speeches. I could tell immediately that the artist wasn't that well known as most people there seemed to be his friends, rather than fans. There's a huge difference and it's one I'm keen at noticing. Looked him up on twitter and sure enough, only 4K followers (the same as my brother).

Anywho, there were a few cute girls there but nothing from them. One might have been staring at me but there was not interest in her on my end. She was actually sitting beside a hottie. But those were the only attractive girls in the place.

Anyhow, we left shortly thereafter and now I'm home again. Really want to get into marketing more, I feel like I have a strong sense of it inherently. Even just listening to the speeches made by the brew master and artist made me mentally face-palm. I was thinking ":we don't care about what you think, we care about what we think. Why don't YOU care about what we think?" and then I thought about how most marketing (especially for stuff like that)P is backwards.

It's odd too because the women who greeted us as we entered were WAY more engaging. I would have loved to talk to them all day, but the art thing was a flop.

Anyhow, what about you guys? Ever been to these low-level exhibits where you feel like you're doing charity work?

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