Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[DarthXedonias]

Yes, I will take this opportunity to advance the skeleton script, since my customer for the custom wishes to have it finished sooner than later and does not want me to add any new technology to it in order to achieve that goal.

Key 1 is figured out and easily implemented, and it is a universal that will be in the skeleton script. I'm not sure how obvious Key 1 is going to be for the stuff that isn't very scary, though. It's going to be much more obvious for things like DMSI.

There is no IDGAF scripting in DMSI. Your subconscious is reacting that way in order to defeat the mechanism by which the amount of response is determined in the script. It is proportional to the level of attraction and interest you have in the person; so by artificially refusing to have any interest, the script can be "executed" without achieving the goal. That is a loophole that will be taken care of in 3.3, and would not affect UM/US.

Thanks for answer that. I'm actually quite excited to see how Key 1 would shake things up, though as you said it might not be as noticeable with things that are less scary.I almost can't wait til we have a MLS 6G with the keys in to see how that works out even though I know you hated working on that program. I did have an idea right as I was typing this though. Have you thought since your going to advance the script anyway and you already have an idea of the phrasing for key 2 maybe putting Key 2 in UM/US? I mean that way lets say you build UM/US (if you choose to combine them), the nail/hair growth sub and another one. You can probably gleam some data from the people who are using UM/US with key 1 and 2 in it while you are working on the other focus fire subs. That way when it comes to work on 3.3 you might have some ideas on how to improve it maybe? Granted, I could see the problem in that in that : (1) you don't know how many people are going to buy the sub, (2) How many people are going to report back, and (3) Its not as difficult and scary a goal as DMSI.

Eh, I know for me I would be more than willing to report on it if that were to happen. I'm kind of in a rut right now of not much motivation and going towards too much success , some but not a lot, even though I have a bunch of goals I need to accomplish (Get Degree online then move to SEA). I do see it as a Win-Win for you though in that if some people were willing to say before hand they were willing to buy it then you could get both data and some extra income to keep the business going. That's just an idea though, don't know if its viable from a data gather and business perspective. I will be more than happy if just Key 1 is in there.

Thanks for explaining my resistance problem. That does actually make a lot of sense because when you said artificial that is exactly what it felt like. Every time I would have that idea of "I just don't care" it did feel like it was very artificial. It felt like every time something just "forced" me to say that in my head after trying to see any results.

Oh btw, I did forget to report on something that you were interested in before. I had said my PTSD was fully taken care of on 3.2. Well, when I was off the program before I noticed it came back but it was only 1 symptom and that 1 symptom only showed it self about once every 2 to 3 weeks about. So that might still seem bad to some people but it is great for me. It is the sudden outburst symptom. Before it would happen anywhere from 1 up to 9 times a day. It would get more on the heavy side if something really negative or a trigger got activated. I did noticed on 3.2B it got activated on the heavy side multiple times a day. Another thing though that is good is that I had something that normally would be a trigger a few days ago and I had no sudden out burst at all. Also when I have a outburst i stop and analyze if I might be sliding back and the idea after a while seems ridiculous to me. Its like a great part of me just doesn't see me having it anymore which I could take as its very much in remission.

I think this is because a few months ago I realized that fear gets more powerful the more you concentrate on it. The less attention you give it the less power it has over you. I think it was ever since that realization I've noticed its been in remission pretty much or none existent. Just thought you might like to hear about that since you were hoping to making a emotional healing sub down the road that heals PTSD totally.

[Fluffy]

"Comfort Zone Expander" - Focusfire sub?

Yay or Nay?

[findingme]

Shannon, I've had an unexpected experience lately listening to DMSI while sleeping. I'd like to share it in case it helps anybody.

I had a rough experience about a week ago listening to hybrid while sleeping. I had 7 loops on, and I didn't sleep until all loops had played. I got little to no rest, so I switched to ultrasonic by itself, and I slept well the following night.

Well, my fridge makes a little noise, so I turned up the thermostat (I'd had it on the coldest setting), which made my one room tiled apartment much quieter. But playing the ultrasonic with no background noise kept me awake again. I'd had my VLC player at 50% for months with no problems, but I was kept awake on DMSI ultrasonic when there was no noise interference. I had UD on at 45% for the 3 months I listened to it (mostly on hybrid), but I never had trouble sleeping. I only cite the forced march message in DMSI as the reason.

I turned DMSI down to 45% last night using ultrasonic, and I slept well. I thought I'd pass this on for reference.

[JakeKennedy]

Shannon, I've had an unexpected experience lately listening to DMSI while sleeping. I'd like to share it in case it helps anybody.

I had a rough experience about a week ago listening to hybrid while sleeping. I had 7 loops on, and I didn't sleep until all loops had played. I got little to no rest, so I switched to ultrasonic by itself, and I slept well the following night.

Well, my fridge makes a little noise, so I turned up the thermostat (I'd had it on the coldest setting), which made my one room tiled apartment much quieter. But playing the ultrasonic with no background noise kept me awake again. I'd had my VLC player at 50% for months with no problems, but I was kept awake on DMSI ultrasonic when there was no noise interference. I had UD on at 45% for the 3 months I listened to it (mostly on hybrid), but I never had trouble sleeping. I only cite the forced march message in DMSI as the reason.

I turned DMSI down to 45% last night using ultrasonic, and I slept well. I thought I'd pass this on for reference.

I had a similar reaction to 3.2A when I began increasing loops. I wouldn't sleep until the loops finished one night then the next I would be so tired I would sleep right through them. I just kept grinding out the loops then it seemed to go away (no changes to volume or anything else) and now I sleep fine all the time while it's running.

[JCasterlin]

@Shannon On the MLS 3.0 sales page goal number ninety two states " Make yourself distraction-proof" . Is that in general or as it relates to the goals of MLS 3.0?

[Username]

@Shannon
Can you elaborate on the topic of stubbornness...from the perspective of unconscious mind? What is it and why is it?

[Jake2015]

Dumb question but I need to ask, does DMSI help in getting you with a friend (or out of the friend zone)?

[Rocket13]

Can that Super LM, US, UM Sub have Make SMART investments and prevent bad investment programming in it too.

[AlphaRomeo]

Can that Super LM, US, UM Sub have Make SMART investments and prevent bad investment programming in it too.

I, for one, would like to see (and purchase) general US/UM/(LM) combo.

If you want investments goals in it that would derail the general purpose of the program, and narrow down the audience for no good reason. If you want investment programming why not take a look at this: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...light=basi and ask to have US/UM build into it as "being successful investor" program would probably need to be "major"/multistage sub and not something you just add to focus fire sub as "flavor".

[Fluffy]

Can that Super LM, US, UM Sub have Make SMART investments and prevent bad investment programming in it too.

I, for one, would like to see (and purchase) general US/UM/(LM) combo.

If you want investments goals in it that would derail the general purpose of the program, and narrow down the audience for no good reason. If you want investment programming why not take a look at this: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...light=basi and ask to have US/UM build into it as "being successful investor" program would probably need to be "major"/multistage sub and not something you just add to focus fire sub as "flavor".

Yeah I agree. US/UM/(LM) combo, has pure synergy, anything else added like "SMART investments" seems very odd.... kind of like adding tomato ketchup to your ice cream, it works because tomato ketchup goes on food, but not ideal for desert.

This would be a really awesome sub, hope Shannon decides to do this.

[Shannon]

Yes, I will take this opportunity to advance the skeleton script, since my customer for the custom wishes to have it finished sooner than later and does not want me to add any new technology to it in order to achieve that goal.

Key 1 is figured out and easily implemented, and it is a universal that will be in the skeleton script. I'm not sure how obvious Key 1 is going to be for the stuff that isn't very scary, though. It's going to be much more obvious for things like DMSI.

There is no IDGAF scripting in DMSI. Your subconscious is reacting that way in order to defeat the mechanism by which the amount of response is determined in the script. It is proportional to the level of attraction and interest you have in the person; so by artificially refusing to have any interest, the script can be "executed" without achieving the goal. That is a loophole that will be taken care of in 3.3, and would not affect UM/US.

Thanks for answer that. I'm actually quite excited to see how Key 1 would shake things up, though as you said it might not be as noticeable with things that are less scary.I almost can't wait til we have a MLS 6G with the keys in to see how that works out even though I know you hated working on that program. I did have an idea right as I was typing this though. Have you thought since your going to advance the script anyway and you already have an idea of the phrasing for key 2 maybe putting Key 2 in UM/US? I mean that way lets say you build UM/US (if you choose to combine them), the nail/hair growth sub and another one. You can probably gleam some data from the people who are using UM/US with key 1 and 2 in it while you are working on the other focus fire subs. That way when it comes to work on 3.3 you might have some ideas on how to improve it maybe? Granted, I could see the problem in that in that : (1) you don't know how many people are going to buy the sub, (2) How many people are going to report back, and (3) Its not as difficult and scary a goal as DMSI.

I had thought about that. I am not sure if that is the best idea, but I will continue to contemplate it and run it through the models when the time comes.

Eh, I know for me I would be more than willing to report on it if that were to happen. I'm kind of in a rut right now of not much motivation and going towards too much success , some but not a lot, even though I have a bunch of goals I need to accomplish (Get Degree online then move to SEA). I do see it as a Win-Win for you though in that if some people were willing to say before hand they were willing to buy it then you could get both data and some extra income to keep the business going. That's just an idea though, don't know if its viable from a data gather and business perspective. I will be more than happy if just Key 1 is in there.

I can see benefits and drawbacks for each option. We'll see.

Thanks for explaining my resistance problem. That does actually make a lot of sense because when you said artificial that is exactly what it felt like. Every time I would have that idea of "I just don't care" it did feel like it was very artificial. It felt like every time something just "forced" me to say that in my head after trying to see any results.

Yes, that is exactly what it is. An artificial attempt to defeat the program. The good news is, when the subconscious has to go to that length to do so, you know we can't be very far off.

Oh btw, I did forget to report on something that you were interested in before. I had said my PTSD was fully taken care of on 3.2. Well, when I was off the program before I noticed it came back but it was only 1 symptom and that 1 symptom only showed it self about once every 2 to 3 weeks about. So that might still seem bad to some people but it is great for me. It is the sudden outburst symptom. Before it would happen anywhere from 1 up to 9 times a day. It would get more on the heavy side if something really negative or a trigger got activated. I did noticed on 3.2B it got activated on the heavy side multiple times a day. Another thing though that is good is that I had something that normally would be a trigger a few days ago and I had no sudden out burst at all. Also when I have a outburst i stop and analyze if I might be sliding back and the idea after a while seems ridiculous to me. Its like a great part of me just doesn't see me having it anymore which I could take as its very much in remission.

I have noted that when we are working on something deeply rooted, we have to keep using the program for long enough to get all of the roots. It's the same thing for Stop Smoking. When I was designing V5, I created it as a six stage set because it took 6 months to get all the roots for most people. Most people would stop the actual smoking in 2 to 8 weeks, but it took 6 months to really remove the entire reason behind that smoking habit. So I'm sure it's the same with PTSD. Thanks for that data.

I think this is because a few months ago I realized that fear gets more powerful the more you concentrate on it. The less attention you give it the less power it has over you. I think it was ever since that realization I've noticed its been in remission pretty much or none existent. Just thought you might like to hear about that since you were hoping to making a emotional healing sub down the road that heals PTSD totally.

Yes, I very much appreciate that.

[Shannon]

"Comfort Zone Expander" - Focusfire sub?

Yay or Nay?

Maybe, but it's not something for the foreseeable future.

[Shannon]

Shannon, I've had an unexpected experience lately listening to DMSI while sleeping. I'd like to share it in case it helps anybody.

I had a rough experience about a week ago listening to hybrid while sleeping. I had 7 loops on, and I didn't sleep until all loops had played. I got little to no rest, so I switched to ultrasonic by itself, and I slept well the following night.

Well, my fridge makes a little noise, so I turned up the thermostat (I'd had it on the coldest setting), which made my one room tiled apartment much quieter. But playing the ultrasonic with no background noise kept me awake again. I'd had my VLC player at 50% for months with no problems, but I was kept awake on DMSI ultrasonic when there was no noise interference. I had UD on at 45% for the 3 months I listened to it (mostly on hybrid), but I never had trouble sleeping. I only cite the forced march message in DMSI as the reason.

I turned DMSI down to 45% last night using ultrasonic, and I slept well. I thought I'd pass this on for reference.

Thanks for the data. Sometimes, programs that require or trigger heavy processing and/or cause you to work on things that scare you will cause it to be challenging to fall asleep.

[Shannon]

@Shannon On the MLS 3.0 sales page goal number ninety two states " Make yourself distraction-proof" . Is that in general or as it relates to the goals of MLS 3.0?

It is aimed at learning.