Shannon's Journal Discussion

[wolverine_i_am]

While we wait for v2.5 to be available to everyone, can I ask if anyone else has been having aches and pains in various parts of the body during v2.4 run?

I've developed a strong pain in right neck/shoulder area in last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's got anything to do with the sub, but it's just that I couldn't find any other reason for these aches and pains. Since we often have common things happening to us while running the same subs, I thought I'll check with others.

Also, if it's related to v2.4, does anyone have any idea on what this could mean? i.e. is it resistance? is it healing? or something totally different?

Thanks very much.

Yeah. Had weak leg, groin and lower back muscles. Was strained and aching so much. This has never happened before. But took glutamine for a couple days and it's all fine again.

[Shannon]

I'm listening to 2.5 on my phone at max volume. Just ate a small amount of egg and sausage, unfortunately half the damned thing was potatoes. I am low on blood sugar right now, which doubtless is not helping. Started feeling something at about 7 minutes. Interesting flows of cool, silvery energy in various places on my chest and back and head. Don't know how else to describe it. It's not making me unusually hungry, and it is still getting effects without me having blood sugar to work with. Very good sign.

[Shawn]

I'm listening to 2.5 on my phone at max volume. Just ate a small amount of egg and sausage, unfortunately half the damned thing was potatoes. I am low on blood sugar right now, which doubtless is not helping. Started feeling something at about 7 minutes. Interesting flows of cool, silvery energy in various places on my chest and back and head. Don't know how else to describe it. It's not making me unusually hungry, and it is still getting effects without me having blood sugar to work with. Very good sign.

Are the other energy sources non-physical energy sources?

[Shannon]

Interestingly, I touched the cool metal of the chair and suddenly the energy I feel registered as hot in comparison...

[Shannon]

I'm listening to 2.5 on my phone at max volume. Just ate a small amount of egg and sausage, unfortunately half the damned thing was potatoes. I am low on blood sugar right now, which doubtless is not helping. Started feeling something at about 7 minutes. Interesting flows of cool, silvery energy in various places on my chest and back and head. Don't know how else to describe it. It's not making me unusually hungry, and it is still getting effects without me having blood sugar to work with. Very good sign.

Are the other energy sources non-physical energy sources?

Physicality or non-physicality is left to your subconscious to choose from.

[hunk]

I've developed a strong pain in right neck/shoulder area in last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's got anything to do with the sub, but it's just that I couldn't find any other reason for these aches and pains. Since we often have common things happening to us while running the same subs, I thought I'll check with others.

If it is related at all, the only thing it could be is an outward display of inner resistance.

Thanks for the prompt response, Shannon. Appreciate it. Any ideas on what to do about it? Do you think I should continue with v2.4 for some more time even when v2.5 is available or should I go ahead with v2.5 for now and revisit healing when it's released in v3.0.1 (or something)?

Another thought I've been having is... I've been meaning to run BASE, but I got onto the DMSI bandwagon instead. Should I do BASE instead? (Yes, it's important for me at this stage in my life. I want to switch jobs, be seen as more valuable to my employer, get a raise etc.) Or should I continue with DMSI and get this part of my life sorted out since I've already been doing it for about a month and a half now (v2.3 and then v2.4)?

Is there anything else I can do to help with resistance? Some exercise, ritual, should I keep my mind occupied (i.e. distracted) or should I deliberately focus on the issues and consciously be aware of what is causing the resistance? (So far I only see the lack of motivation in me. I know there are things I should be doing, but the motivation hasn't been enough to cause me to actually go ahead and do much about it. Just the bare minimum.)

[hunk]

While we wait for v2.5 to be available to everyone, can I ask if anyone else has been having aches and pains in various parts of the body during v2.4 run?

I've developed a strong pain in right neck/shoulder area in last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's got anything to do with the sub, but it's just that I couldn't find any other reason for these aches and pains. Since we often have common things happening to us while running the same subs, I thought I'll check with others.

Also, if it's related to v2.4, does anyone have any idea on what this could mean? i.e. is it resistance? is it healing? or something totally different?

Thanks very much.

Yeah. Had weak leg, groin and lower back muscles. Was strained and aching so much. This has never happened before. But took glutamine for a couple days and it's all fine again.

Thanks, mate. Is it L-Glutamine? I've never taken it. I don't even go to the gym. Will it be alright for me to take some? (I'll read up about it a bit though)

[Cozy]

If DAOD was in 4G or less, it might. Depending on how well the goals meshed.

But the aura is just projecting programmed energy, it doesn't aim to change your beliefs or anything else. Clearing and development are still just as important as always.

So, if I were to mix DAOD (which represents the power we were talking about) and MUWAS (which automates wealth manifestation), there'd pretty much be nothing holding me back right?

Btw, looking at the script about 80% of DAOD is focused on changing beliefs.

I wasn't sure as to some of what you meant. I see you mean the older version of the program, and not a hypothetical new one. I haven't read the old script in a long time.

DAOD is using energy manipulation, and MUWAS is using manifestation. They're probably going to be competing for sufficient energy. But if you want to try them together, go for it. I can use the feedback.

Actually I think it's going to work, here's why:

In the past when I listened to MUWAS all night I would get an insane euphoria and basically a knowingness that I would be living a life of extreme wealth (although it took a while to get this feeling), and when I woke up after a couple hours into the day I would get insane resistance and had to stop lol. (Usually having to do with the people around me).

Two days ago I listened to MUWAS, SIJAFG, and DAOD back to back, didn't feel much of a difference besides some tinglings. Last night I listened to MUWAS by itself, got that familiar all too welcomed euphoria, and today throughout the day I keep getting that same euphoria, it just keeps getting stronger and stronger. Definitely a different result from last time, so I'm sure they're related.

What do you think?

[Shannon]

I've developed a strong pain in right neck/shoulder area in last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's got anything to do with the sub, but it's just that I couldn't find any other reason for these aches and pains. Since we often have common things happening to us while running the same subs, I thought I'll check with others.

If it is related at all, the only thing it could be is an outward display of inner resistance.

Thanks for the prompt response, Shannon. Appreciate it. Any ideas on what to do about it? Do you think I should continue with v2.4 for some more time even when v2.5 is available or should I go ahead with v2.5 for now and revisit healing when it's released in v3.0.1 (or something)?

If you're experiencing pains as a result of resistance - IF, we don't know that is the case for sure - then the options are to deal, stop resisting, or use something else.

Another thought I've been having is... I've been meaning to run BASE, but I got onto the DMSI bandwagon instead. Should I do BASE instead? (Yes, it's important for me at this stage in my life. I want to switch jobs, be seen as more valuable to my employer, get a raise etc.) Or should I continue with DMSI and get this part of my life sorted out since I've already been doing it for about a month and a half now (v2.3 and then v2.4)?

I can't make your decisions for you, my friend.

Is there anything else I can do to help with resistance? Some exercise, ritual, should I keep my mind occupied (i.e. distracted) or should I deliberately focus on the issues and consciously be aware of what is causing the resistance? (So far I only see the lack of motivation in me. I know there are things I should be doing, but the motivation hasn't been enough to cause me to actually go ahead and do much about it. Just the bare minimum.)

Consciously seeking the cause of resistance and working to release it may help.

[Bookstacks DC737]

While we wait for v2.5 to be available to everyone, can I ask if anyone else has been having aches and pains in various parts of the body during v2.4 run?

I've developed a strong pain in right neck/shoulder area in last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's got anything to do with the sub, but it's just that I couldn't find any other reason for these aches and pains. Since we often have common things happening to us while running the same subs, I thought I'll check with others.

Also, if it's related to v2.4, does anyone have any idea on what this could mean? i.e. is it resistance? is it healing? or something totally different?

Thanks very much.

My left hip and shoulder has become incredibly tight and raised up and only now has begun to loosen with the encouragement of some exercises.

I suppose one hypothesis is that the hips are closely related to our sexuality, and the left hip is related to the right brain (creativity and emotions), so it could be a tightening of my emotions related to sex and creativity? My right side is incredibly free and flowing, but that damn left side

[wolverine_i_am]

While we wait for v2.5 to be available to everyone, can I ask if anyone else has been having aches and pains in various parts of the body during v2.4 run?

I've developed a strong pain in right neck/shoulder area in last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's got anything to do with the sub, but it's just that I couldn't find any other reason for these aches and pains. Since we often have common things happening to us while running the same subs, I thought I'll check with others.

Also, if it's related to v2.4, does anyone have any idea on what this could mean? i.e. is it resistance? is it healing? or something totally different?

Thanks very much.

Yeah. Had weak leg, groin and lower back muscles. Was strained and aching so much. This has never happened before. But took glutamine for a couple days and it's all fine again.

Thanks, mate. Is it L-Glutamine? I've never taken it. I don't even go to the gym. Will it be alright for me to take some? (I'll read up about it a bit though)

Should be fine. It's just protein / animo acids.

[Shannon]

If DAOD was in 4G or less, it might. Depending on how well the goals meshed.

But the aura is just projecting programmed energy, it doesn't aim to change your beliefs or anything else. Clearing and development are still just as important as always.

So, if I were to mix DAOD (which represents the power we were talking about) and MUWAS (which automates wealth manifestation), there'd pretty much be nothing holding me back right?

Btw, looking at the script about 80% of DAOD is focused on changing beliefs.

I wasn't sure as to some of what you meant. I see you mean the older version of the program, and not a hypothetical new one. I haven't read the old script in a long time.

DAOD is using energy manipulation, and MUWAS is using manifestation. They're probably going to be competing for sufficient energy. But if you want to try them together, go for it. I can use the feedback.

Actually I think it's going to work, here's why:

In the past when I listened to MUWAS all night I would get an insane euphoria and basically a knowingness that I would be living a life of extreme wealth (although it took a while to get this feeling), and when I woke up after a couple hours into the day I would get insane resistance and had to stop lol. (Usually having to do with the people around me).

Two days ago I listened to MUWAS, SIJAFG, and DAOD back to back, didn't feel much of a difference besides some tinglings. Last night I listened to MUWAS by itself, got that familiar all too welcomed euphoria, and today throughout the day I keep getting that same euphoria, it just keeps getting stronger and stronger. Definitely a different result from last time, so I'm sure they're related.

What do you think?

I think...

1. I don't remember what SIJAFG is and
2. if it's working for you, more powe to ya! I look forward to seeing how it goes for you. I should really see about MUWAS in 6G.

[chaosvrgn]

It would be very helpful for me to understand what you saw was going on in your subconscious.

It's funny -- I never mentioned these things before because they felt soooo personal. I'm guessing the clearing had something to do with this, because it's not hard for me to talk about now.

That being said...

My mother is a overbearing, very critical woman. She means well, but she's really loud, commanding and hyper-emotional. Like, her feelings get hurt over the smallest perceived slight. I spent the majority of my childhood walking on egg shells, because if she got mad, that meant a beating at the hands of my otherwise peaceful father was due.

That feeling of constant fear transformed into a constant fear of women's disapproval -- as if their judgment would cause some kind of physical harm to me. I realize now that this fear is one of the main reasons I became an avid martial artist. You'd be a fool to physically attack me at this point, I'd pretty much put you down in seconds. That's how hard I trained, and it's linked to this physical fear.

There was also an incident when my mother shamed me for having an erection after church. There was this girl that I had a serious crush on and I finally made the effort to speak to her. We chatted and she ended up kissing me on the cheek. My mother saw, noticed I had an erection and laughed at me. It wasn't like a "awwww" laugh, it was a straight up mocking laugh, and even took a swipe at my pants. I had completely repressed this memory.

This fear of women's judgment has been holding me back, and is probably responsible for my intimacy issues and how I treated women in the past. To get laid, I literally would consider them human sex dolls. Was very abusive to get to that goal. Yea, I know women like it rough and yada yada, but I never really felt good about going into that state of mind.

This is the stuff the clearing modules were tapping on right before I quit, and it became so overwhelming that I had to stop. Gonna run v2.5 for two - four weeks, then going back to v2.4 (if v3 isn't out) because I need this completely gone.

However, the fact that I can even talk about this stuff is significant progress. Once again, much thanks to you for these life-changing programs, Shannon. Best $114.95 I've ever paid.

EDIT: To answer your question exactly, Shannon, what I saw and heard was basically an abstract image of my subconscious literally arguing with the script as to why it should keep resisting. This manifested on the physical realm as a sudden re-interest in reading manosphere blogs. I was on the red pill for two and three hours a day.

[JackOfHearts]

It seems Ben usually wake up in one hour from now if I look at his previous post time. Which means we still have at least 1 one hour to wait.