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Masculine Principles - Daredevil - 02-07-2018
Here are some notes I found on the Internet about a David Deida Workshop. What is your Take on this?
- Any desire is a form of insecurity
- If you’re looking to achieve something then you are insecure
- Relax into what you’ve always been. Then offer your true self as a gift.
- Your body is a resume to a woman
- Relaxed depth of being is most attractive to a woman
- First three times at anything you fail badly, though you might get lucky, then it’s less stressful after.
- You point to your heart to define you
- It’s in the moment, as you relax in that. That’s what everyone feels.
- You always attract someone as wounded as you’re putting out
- If you’re trying to achieve something, you are insecure, and you’ll attract someone as insecure.
- If you’re faking it, people will expect you to keep faking it.
- No one cares about you, except you, and you shouldn’t.
- Where your attention is is how people experience themselves.
- If you’re attentive on yourself, you’ll attract selfish women
- Mick Jagger is about the music, and giving it, not about him, not about his body, not about his aches, not about his age . . .
- Everyone wants a good show (happiness, love, etc.)
- Find out what you want, that when you die you’ll die complete.
i. What do you want to do before you die?
- Look at your friends and girlfriends, and that’s you
- You want a girl to see God through you
- You want the girl to worship you
- The 3rd step, stage of intimacy
The 3 Stages
1st stage – Dick suckers (do something wrong and she doesn’t suck your dick)
2nd stage – Fair (i.e. if you want me to suck your dick, you have to eat my – business relationship)
3rd stage – Neither mutual relationship; not fair. IT’S I WANT TO OPEN SOMEONE TO GOD TONIGHT. (GOD being divinity) And in return I accept nothing but pain. You should feel like Jesus on the cross. When you walk into the club you know you’ll experience pain eventually. It’s mutual, true worship. We all worship women.
Gift
- “Graduation Day”
i. Difference is between the girl before meeting you and the girl after meeting you.
- The part of you totally trustable is what you give to women during sex
- Note: Giving GOD without expectation (she won’t give you the kudos’ you deserve)
- Women are built to show you where you’re holding your fear.
- If you need her approval you are already attracting those low level moments
- Find out why you want to be with women.
- Play around -> Finding the right girl(s)
- Good sex is open and intense that if you ever see the woman again you just breathe . . .
Masculine
- Be the awareness that is undiminished by the moments.i. 2 parts to a moment
1. You’re aware of this moment. You can see a chair; you’re not the chair. You are tired, but you’re not the tired. (Witness – I am here, not changing.)
2. Everything else – everything else except the witness (To be free of the pleasure and pain, during pleasure and pain)
- Your value as a MAN is your capacity to remain present no matter what happens.
- The capacity to remain present no matter if there is pleasure/pain
- Everything else that changes is the feminine
- Being here is the masculine
- That unflinching makes a man a man
- Fear doesn’t collapse them, them who are valuable in society
- Not fidget, collapse . . . that’s your value as a man.
- Feminine is move-ability and feminine value is ability to move
- We want a woman who gives you everything; LIFE.
- Masculine is that which does not move.
- Masculine = you
- Feminine = Everything else in the universe
My gift
- The sacrifice of myself for others
- When you’re fucking a girl what would you prefer in terms of value. A girl who is rigid and still, or a girl who is all over the place in pleasure?
- Guys drink to numb
- Women drink to express themselves
- Every fidget de-masculinizes you
- How much of your day do you want to here of her day, life, friends, etc?
- 3rd stage is making a relationship into an art form.
- In general, what kills a relationship is talking
Bomb Dropping Example
- A good warrior feels the bombs before they drop (i.e. fishing, you have to be sensitive to all the moments to catch the most fish. With picking up women, you have to be sensitive to any situation)
- Practice increased awareness by feeling the person on your left, on your right, people behind you. (i.e. Basketball players can pass to anyone on the court of their field sensitivity)
- David Deida said if he was a woman he wouldn’t date anyone in this room
- Any unconscious movement is bad
- All fidgets and movements make you unattractive
More Attractive
- Feel the space around you
- Sense your breathing
- To find out how much you trust someone think of the following. You have a huge business deal of all your life savings, would you trust that man?
Ask YOURSELF
- Do you trust yourself with someone’s life savings?
Women Are So Sensitive
- Keep feet straight
- Humour means presence
i. Think of a good joke, and a gun on your side ready to shoot anyone who gets in your way.
- You can learn to be the most trustable person in the world, but you have to be real.
- Women want to feel that your body is reflecting the real
- There is not better or worse men, there is better acting and worse acting men
- You get as much self-involved when you believe there are worse or better men.
- After your body goes you will know who you are
- You are always aware of the present, but how much are you expressing?
- Feel that you are dancing in your body, but you can kill the next person who gets in your way.
- It’s all a matter of being aware of the present moment.
- When you become more aware of your body you can express your glow.
- Laughter of human existence = slight smile
- Practice to real your glow.
- Guys awareness of presence changes, that’s why girls say, “I want this guy.” Then the next moment says, “I want this other guy.” That’s why girls don’t know what guy they want.
- Feel like your feet are rooted and feel that root
- ROOT YOURSELF SO YOU’RE A WHOLE BEING
- For 5-10 Minutes a day stand in front of a mirror, big erect dick and feel like everyone/you is going to die in the next ten minutes and sing and you can kill the person who walks in the door
- Twitches are feedback. No twitches if you’re ON
- Twitches are feedback that you are losing it
- We’d all go insane if we didn’t live in self deception
- Our mortality is so frail that we deceive ourselves so we don’t go insane.
- Loosening up your ass makes you less of a tight ass.
- Why not just lay in our excrement and die? If you just eat and masturbate, what is it about eating and masturbation that are so great?
- Relationships are important for you to live out your fantasies
- Your purpose is to live out your fantasy everyday of your life
- We want to experience power every day
- 1st stage man
i. I want to dominate this woman so I can feel good about myself
- 3rd stage man
i. express your fantasy and use it as a portal
- You only ignore who you are when you say “If only . . .”
- Sex and violence is on television cause they don’t live it out
- Yogic way to use masturbatory fantasy
- Only when you are living on your edge will you feel alive
- If you get emotional by movie types, then you have to do that (i.e. fighting movie; then box or do martial arts)
- Masturbatory Fantasy
i. Submissive woman
1. cause were not well fucked
- The cure is to trace fantasy to the root
- We fuck each other with our gifts. If you hold in your gift they become demonic, and thus a fantasy
- Multiple women
i. Infinitely attractive, there fore consciousness is infinitely attraction
(i.e. just walk into a bar/club and be conscious of your whole body, as well as everyone around you. Walk into a club and feel the whole room. If someone says, “Hi.”, look at them with depth but be aware of everyone else)
- Breathe = Lots of women
- Depth = Monogamy
- 3rd stage – worship you but will cut your head off if you bullshit
- A woman’s role is to prevent you from your purpose
- Every moment is an excuse to give your gift or not.
- Fuck society, I have to give this gift.
- Girls don’t have interest in his books. His books mean a lot, and it’ll hurt, he may weep, but he doesn’t need mommy. There is a part of him so desperate for her to acknowledge what he does. He knows this and goes back to writing another book.
- If she’s a good woman she won’t support you.
- If you need support for your gift then it won’t be as artful.
- They will support you in the extreme moments
- As soon as you REALLY REALLY don’t need her support will you actually get it, and you’ll get it without it going to your ego.
- If you do something big in the world, the world will try to resist you. The measure of your capacity is your ability to bash it down.
- The world is a big woman
- A woman is a concentrated version of the world.
- Take any great human being and you’ll see that they have been beaten down. When you win this game you die, you smile as you exit.
- Women help the process, especially with one woman. And she’s giving you what the world will give you, but in concentrated form.
i. It may take the world ten years to shit on you, but a woman will do that more often, and you will learn to get up and move on.
- What she wants to feel is, “I know what I want to do, join me?”, NOT “I don’t know what to do, will you help me?”
- Wealthy men and extremely beautiful woman have an extreme disadvantage of being real.
- Men friends are important to keep you in line.
- No one cares about your past, they care about being real.
- How to learn not to give a shit?
i. It’s like eating food, your body shits out stuff not needed, but keeps the nutrients.
ii. EAT THE WORLD, if you do it fully you will take it all in and then you’ll discover what you need to do before you die.
- Men don’t learn from other people’s mistakes very well.
- Always take everything in and then decide what you need to do to die complete.
Ask
1. Why do you want to talk to her?
a. A positive thing would be you have a gift to give her that’ll benefit the world. The negative thing would be for superficial reasons.
- Most of the fear is what’s going to happen you
- In stage 3 you’ll give your gift and possibly get nothing in return.
- Go to a club and give your gift you everyone, some will accept, some will reject
- What ever she’s doing, take it in.
- Take it all in, and still give your gift. (it’s a test or telling you something)
- Women are geniuses at finding out what weakens you
- Note: If she keeps going on and on then she’s a nagging bitch.
- As teenagers we should learn to play
Football Example
- Say you’re playing football and you don’t know the rules. You get the ball, and everyone starts trying to tackle you and you say “Why are you trying to tackle me!?” WELL THAT’S THE GAME!
- You can connect to God without women (meditation/yoga), or through women.
- If she attacks your core and you tell her, “I love you”, it’ll unravel her.
- Women forget the moment
- If you can take fear away from sexual life you have more sex.
- Deida went from white clothed meditating pure type to Jack Daniels, steak eating, 5 women fucking for ten hours.
- Fucking around and not living about your fantasies relives the 60’s and results in what he have now, and that is not a good thing
- You don’t win life, you out grow life
- Yogic – dick is the root to your heart
- Every woman wants your soul, that communion.
- Look into her eyes, see her heart, breathe with her . . . and there is a point when breaths are in sync. Then invite her to touch you by feeling her touch you.
- 90% of game is synchronizing breath.
- Don’t go soft, RELAX into pure awareness
- Say “Hi!” from pure awareness.
4 Steps to Opening a Girl
1. Feel deepest purpose
2. Rest in deepest purpose
3. Find gift to give her and open her heart with your gift
4. Then say, “Hi!” in pure form.
- All women feel the negative and positive, they just don’t say it.
- Depth means relaxed, humourous, open, and free.
To Be More Masculine
- Know your purpose
- Breath deeply
- Root yourself
- Stop fidgeting
- It’s tough at first, and it takes effort, but after it’s easy cause you live it.
- During sex, that every moment you are disconnected from the moment you’ll get a negative response all the time
- “Uh”, looking down, fumbling is not masculine.
- Quality women are rejected from the beginning
- The heart adds something to the vocal tone.
i. Tone, no clamping down
1. fix the vocal tone by laughing (taking yourself too seriously)
- connect the hearts for adding something to the voice
- They can feel when you’re lying. They can feel more about you, then you can feel about you.
Enlightened Sex Manual
- He practices many hours a day by himself
- You’re responsible for how you affect others
- When you get really good you will find things about her that she doesn’t even know, and you have to step up to continue with the girl, so people don’t get hurt
- When you get good you don’t need to find someone, you have to eliminate them
- What do you have to give to a woman before you die?
i. Your gift
- If you went to a club and breath in three ways, fill the space with your consciousness, conscious of your entire body, and any body that comes near you, and giving your heart to everyone.
- You attract any woman that your attention is on (i.e. if you spend most of the time thinking about pleasure, you’ll attract pleasure. If you focus on your deepest gift you’ll attract women who want your deepest gift)
- What counts to women is not what you say, it’s how you say
- If your heart is disconnected from your purpose, your heart will be rated low on a scale of 0 to 10.
- Look at someone while saying it, and think of how you would say something to that person if you were with them.
- Women are about love and giving love.
- Women want to feel your whole body is into your purpose
- Slow down tempo so it’s like a dance to get them involved, NOT pushing it on them
- You claim the woman you want to claim and you make that claim known to them in delicious ways
Exercise
- Stay present by counting your breaths 10 minutes a day, and if you are not conscious then slap yourself.
- More presence = more attractiveness
- Chatting brings you about in your head
- Find your deepest purpose and express it
- Attractiveness
i. So present you can fall asleep
1. show humour though also show that you could kill them if they get crazy
- When talking mix in humour, killing ability, and that you are better than others, that you could get any woman you’d want.
- Presence changes all the time
Best presence
- Feet parallel
- Relaxed jaw
- Breathing in belly
- Thinking you could have any woman
- That you are humourous though you could kill them
- Shoulders back
- Relaxed body/movement
- Relaxed face
- Gaze at the horizon
- When talking, talk direct, at a relaxed pace and the tone that you are better than them
Ways To Improve
- NO “I think . . .”
- NO “Uh”
- NO hesitation
- NO low, insecure
- NO in your head
- Think before you speak
- Relax
- Breath, focus on your breath as breath is life, and your life is most important
- No fighting
- Presence = attractiveness (be more present)
- When you’re tired is when you need to practice, that’s when you push yourself
- When tired do 10-15 minutes of breathing exercises
- Weight training and yoga are great mixes
- Stage 1 women go for guys who are rich cause they assume wealthy guys can get through life’s objectives.
- Stage 3 women, if she had a choice between a nonwealthy man in the present and a wealthy man in the present, she might choose wealthy, though you never know.
Review
- You walk into a room and see an incredibly attractive woman, why are you attracted?
i. Light
ii. Radiance
iii. Life
- Women are valued based on Light, Radiance, & Life
- What makes you attractive is consciousness, presence and attention.
- She is NOT attracted to light, radiance, and life
- If you want a woman with light, radiance, life then you have to give consciousness, presence, and attention
- Money is sexy cause it’s an example of consciousness, presence, and attention
- Henry Kissinger was voted sexiest man of the year 5 times, and he’s ugly. It’s cause he has consciousness, presence, and attention
- Stage 1 women want $ and status
- Stage 2 women want humour, intellect
- Stage 3 women want consciousness, presence, attention in the purest form (fearless sensitivity that you are willing to take anything without flinching)
- Stage 1
i. Needy men try to make lots of money cause then they think people would like them (i.e. I need $, attentive women . . .)
- Stage 2
i. Dependence (I don’t need . . . )
- Stage 3
i. What can I give before I die?
- Good women want stage III, though they would go after a guy with all stages
- Maturity in a woman determines her stage #
- Nothing wrong with money, master it and move beyond money. Though you can be a monk, and not have a need for $.
Artists
- Stage 1
i. Art for attention
ii. Art for money
- Very few artists in stage 3
- The stages are a development
- Women mirror you, if you are a stage 1, she’ll lie to you, steal your money
- Light attracts consciousness
- If you’re in 3rd stage, you’ll induce 3rd stage in people
- It’s all our responsibility to be 3rd stage, every moment we’re not makes the world a dumber and darker place.
- It takes a woman one second to pick the most conscious/present/attentive man
- How you walk, talk, standing, breathing, looking at horizon
- Man can pick out most radiant girl within three seconds
- Life = Responsiveness
- If body doesn’t show depth of man, the tone of voice can
- Gum chewing turns stage III women off
- Genuine smile from heart gives you a 10
- Way predominately men and predominantly women people learn are completely different
- To Deida, everything is an exercise.
- Look into the persons left eye.
- Women doesn’t want you to practice on her, even if it is practice
- Feminine is the water, and masculine is the container. You’re the container, she’s the water. You direct the flow of the river, but she has the power. It’s your job to be the stage 3 container
- If she’s bitching
i. Stage 1 guy will just leave and come back later (i.e. have a beer and get back to her later)
ii. Stage 2 guy will listen but have attention on other things
iii. Stage 3 guy will do the following. She goes “Blah, Blah, Blah” and in your heart you find out how to open her to God, the mystery of life. (i.e. you might nod and then dance her around, and if she gets pissed say, “God, I love it when you’re angry”
- Don’t encourage a woman to be more feminine
- Relax her into amore feminine place than she’s at
- It’s NOT always true that a woman has to be more feminine to be more happy, they can add a little more masculine to their life
Energy
- Everyone has masculine/feminine in their body
- It’s up to you to take over the masculine.
- Anytime a woman is acting helpless she’s playing with you.
- You should play both masculine and feminine sides, if not you’re half a person
- A FREE MAN is someone who can have a bunch of sub personalities and not worry about them.
i. Stage 1 Man goes to many sub personalities
ii. Stage 3 Man doesn’t give in.
- You can’t serve someone else and find there self if you cant find your own.
- Instead of saying “Where do I go”, you say “hmmm, I have all these personalities, what gift do I have to give?”
Stage 3
- Giving gift regarding your depth through sub personalities. Gift through meditation. Gift through fucking.
- “Just roll with it”
- Give gift through sub personalities
- As any artist knows, it’s the flaw that makes the art
- Michael Jordan was not a balanced human being, he gave it through his kink
- Dance in the wound
- You give your pain through a gift to others
- Build and lose, build and lose, build and lose
- “Yea, I won’t even work with a business partner unless he’s been bankrupt twice.”
- Maturity is when you can be rejected and move on.
- You have to fail repeatedly to get the big success
- This bodily reaction of failure came from school and getting good grades
- FAIL IN LIFE
- The bigger game you play, the bigger your losses.
- All this is grounded in enlightenment
- Enlightenment is in this present moment, in light, consciousness, and fucking
- This moment
- Enlightenment is NOT knowing it intellectually it’s breathing it, living it. This moment. Yogic sex is one person giving life and one giving consciousness.
- You need friends so you don’t delude yourself
- When you’re ready a teacher will come
- Playing around with sex and drugs is like masturbation, and you need someone to get you out of it
- Sensitize yourself to internal, flow of light for masturbation
- We’re on a spiritual quest, through women, just take it further, and grow women to stage III by giving your gift.
RE: Masculine Principles - Daredevil - 02-07-2018
This Will be a Thread where people can Post their Own Masculine Principles of Life and Lessons.
RE: Masculine Principles - Daredevil - 02-07-2018
Things are unattractive in Men
-Anxiety
-Indecisiveness
-Lack of Planning
-Lack of direction
-Instability
-Moodiness
RE: Masculine Principles - Determined - 02-07-2018
These are really good.
I'd be interested in attending one of his workshops.
RE: Masculine Principles - AbundanceCH - 02-07-2018
I recommend the following. This guy is amazing just pure alpha I have fixed so many holes in my game and my personality just watching his videos. I didn't know I was doing so many un-masculine feminine sh*** till I started watching him and realized how I lost so many women because of those things.
He gives you raw alpha game
https://youtu.be/jCWy9EhISjQ
2017 was an amazing year for me when it comes to women but I did make a lot of mistakes and lost two women who I wanted to keep. I'm just glad I found his channel so I won't make those mistakes again this year.
RE: Masculine Principles - Determined - 02-07-2018
(02-07-2018, 10:13 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: I recommend the following. This guy is amazing just pure alpha I have fixed so many holes in my game and my personality just watching his videos. I didn't know I was doing so many un-masculine feminine sh*** till I started watching him and realized how I lost so many women because of those things.
He gives you raw alpha game
https://youtu.be/jCWy9EhISjQ
2017 was an amazing year for me when it comes to women but I did make a lot of mistakes and lost two women who I wanted to keep. I'm just glad I found his channel so I won't make those mistakes again this year.
I watched a bit of his video and I'm not entirely sure what to think of it.
The things he describes will only take you so far. If you buy into his paradigm, then you'll inevitably remain stuck and confused when wondering how you can solve some problems which arise (which do arise as a consequence of the paradigm itself).
For example: He explains that all women seek validation. Giving a woman validation and having her seek your validation is a very effective attraction technique, however, if that is how you choose to filter the world, then you're only going to be attracting validation seeking women.
I'll put the question to Shannon as it's one I've been wondering for a while
RE: Masculine Principles - AbundanceCH - 02-08-2018
I understand where you're coming from but I think you are getting things mixed up.
All women love bad boys = paradigm (a false one)
Women seeking validation from men is not a paradigm it's just their nature. Women are hardwired to chase men. If you go back to ancient times it was always like this. From the time of the cavemen women always chased the strongest alpha male to be with and have offspring and they still do. Only till recently (the feminist movement) have things gone totally haywire to the point men have become the b|tch and women have become the one being chased. Men are now a days seeking validation from women when it has always been the opposite.
This is why we have huge problems with "nice guys" not being able to get laid. They are doing the job the woman is supposed to be doing they are in their feminine (seeking validation) thus turning off women. Women don't want to be in their masculine they operate best when they are in their feminine but most men now a days force them to operate from their masculine.
Women are hardwired to chase men that's not a paradigm that's just nature. Your job is to change your mentality from chaser to a man worthy of being chased.
Alpha Male Strategies speaks about this in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSj4fIPx1Hk
The main stuff he advocates is really simple. The main thing is getting on your purpose. Working hard, getting money, focusing on yourself and never chasing or validating women. Once you get into your purpose and fix your financial situation, improve your body then things naturally start falling into place and the reason for that is because women can smell masculine essence a mile a way.
A man that is into his purpose is in his masculine essence.
RE: Masculine Principles - Determined - 02-08-2018
Lol, I think you're mixing what I'm saying up.
I used validation as an example.
"Women are hardwired to chase men that's not a paradigm that's just nature. Your job is to change your mentality from chaser to a man worthy of being chased."
That's not the paradigm I was referring to. I was referring to PUA. If you were to do what he describes in his video without being a man at your core, it'd be the same as looking at a tree and imitating the leafs. Which is what many alpha wannabe's do.
Just look at the top comments on his video:
"hey Alpha I actually flaked on a girl after I agreed to meet up with her. The thing is I didn't call or text her to let her know that I would not make it and did not text or call her at all in the days after. Three days later after I guess she couldn't take it anymore, she text me and said what's up. After flirting with her she came out and ask why I didn't make it. I told her I was caught up in some business. She replied...("and three days later you are just telling me this?") I chuckled to myself. We talked and flirted some more and she STILL agreed to meet up again so that we can fuck lmao! TRUE STORY."
"Women are children. point blank. which is y u should never get in an argument with a women even if she is truly wrong like alpha said . u wouldn't get mad or yell at a child would u knowing their too young to understand?"
If you're interested in attracting high quality women, flaking on them and treating them like children isn't the right way to go about it. Any woman with high self esteem would be turned off by this and look else where.
These guys who follow these principles will start attracting women but inevitably when they want higher quality women, only the ones smart enough to remove these limiting ideas will advance. The rest will just continue to do "what works". That's the paradigm I was referring to.
Which is why I love Daredevil's post. David Deida teaches men how to be men at their core. He's not adding in anything new, rather getting them to rediscover who they are at their core.
I hope that clears things up.
RE: Masculine Principles - AbundanceCH - 02-08-2018
Quote:That's not the paradigm I was referring to. I was referring to PUA. If you were to do what he describes in his video without being a man at your core, it'd be the same as looking at a tree and imitating the leafs. Which is what many alpha wannabe's do.I agree. I think all men should first focus on becoming strong and masculine first before going after women. But it's the way we are we cannot be without the feminine energy to balance us out (same with women need us). The issue is that men have become more feminine and women have become more masculine to make up for us becoming more feminine. We should be chasing our purpose and our passions and putting women as 5th or 6th on our list of priorities.
Quote:These guys who follow these principles will start attracting women but inevitably when they want higher quality women, only the ones smart enough to remove these limiting ideas will advance. The rest will just continue to do "what works". That's the paradigm I was referring to.I think some aspects of game work on all women whether they be "high quality" or lower quality. I think you are trying to make it out to be that someone is suggesting to flake on women constantly. Nobody is saying that.
Alpha Male Strategies does suggest the 2 week in and 1 week out rule (you see a girl for 2 weeks straight but the third time you do not see her, make up whatever excuse you want). The tactics he teaches are to make women become obsessed with you and for men that want to date multiple women at the same time. They are the dark arts you could say.
And I love David Deida's stuff I have his books. My game is based on his stuff and Alpha Male Strategies youtube channel stuff. I try to stay in my masculine as much as possible and I use Alpha Male Strategies stuff to date multiple women.
If you want a relationship and that's what you want then David Deida's stuff alone should be enough.
RE: Masculine Principles - SargeMaximus - 02-08-2018
Thanks for posting that youtube channel. Seems like that guy might be onto something.
RE: Masculine Principles - AbundanceCH - 02-08-2018
(02-08-2018, 11:12 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Thanks for posting that youtube channel. Seems like that guy might be onto something.I recommend you and every guy watch the following
How To Get A Woman Obsessed With You
https://youtu.be/WteoczMWjo4
Alpha Male Strategies 10 Dating Commandments
https://youtu.be/jCWy9EhISjQ
Alpha Male Personality Traits That Get You Laid
https://youtu.be/JvwlC7zkPzo
Social Media and New Age Dating
https://youtu.be/B4srBfiOIIM
The above video really might be kind of shocking for most guys in this forum who are younger. Men never had to work so hard to get women as they are doing now. It's incredible how things were back in the 90s and earlier like Alpha describes.
RE: Masculine Principles - Determined - 02-08-2018
"I think some aspects of game work on all women whether they be "high quality" or lower quality. I think you are trying to make it out to be that someone is suggesting to flake on women constantly. Nobody is saying that."
Not at all.
I'm pointing out the message received by people who watched that video. Predominantly (as evident by their status as top comments) the guys who watched that video took on the wrong message.
I agree, game is great for learning but at some point the training wheels have to come off. That metaphor of training wheels was told to me by an expert PUA trainer. Most guys don't understand this hence why they get trapped in that way of thinking.
In general, men may have become more feminized but I've never had that problem. The antidote has always been (atleast for me) pursue your purpose, focus on you. If you're a guy whose been "feminized" then I can see how this stuff might be appealing but moving up to higher levels you'll see how childish most of it is.
Being inherently masculine allows all of these traits to flow naturally. Keeping an eye on being a transcendent male is what's necessary for upward progression. I understand that we're all at different levels of growth, so what I'm saying might not make any sense to you.
RE: Masculine Principles - Determined - 02-09-2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WteoczMWjo4&feature=youtu.be
His video "How to get a woman obsessed with you"
6:25-6:35 "women have no self esteem guys...that's why they need attention from men constantly to feel good about themselves"
Case in point. If you approach women from that bias, yes you'll start to become successful with some women but when it comes to higher self esteem women, it's a very limiting approach.
RE: Masculine Principles - SargeMaximus - 02-09-2018
(02-08-2018, 11:42 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Alpha Male Strategies 10 Dating Commandments
https://youtu.be/jCWy9EhISjQ
Been watching this one. I have a few issues. First he says "you have to make a woman feel comfortable" but then never goes into detail about how to do that.
Second he says "never agree to be a woman's friend" I'd say that's debatable. I've heard from many successful guys that they have f*cked all their female friends, which means at some point they were "friends".
I think a lot of PUA stuff comes down to personal style and what works for the individual.
One has to just find what works for them.