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Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 03:43 AM

Hi I am new here.

I want to first introduce myself. I am a female mid 30's.
I have tried subs before not from this site and they work for me really quickly.
I tried some subs around attracting men and I found I became really confident and men smiled or checked me out often. I find without the subs I do get attention but with the subs its just ultra strong and intense.

So now I am ready to take the next step. I work and dont have a lot of time to socialise but I meet a lot of people through my job.

I want to attract a lover. I'm not sure about a boyfriend because I am not emotionally ready but I want something between a lover and boyfriend. I actually desire some steamy sex.


Which subs should I be using? Please advise. Tongue


RE: Which sub? Lover - Zane - 07-24-2017 04:04 AM

Develop Maximum Sexual Irresistibly 3.1-5.5G


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 04:08 AM

(07-24-2017 04:04 AM)Zane Wrote:  Develop Maximum Sexual Irresistibly 3.1-5.5G

Will this attract a lover or just attention? I was finding with the subs I was using I was attracting a lot more attention but not the willpower of the guy to take it further. I kind of need it to go further Big Grin


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 04:22 AM

There is the perfect sexual lover and then the perfect romantic lover. I am not sure which one would be fitting.

I dont want something super serious but also not something that will fizzle out instantly. I also like spontaneous, exciting, random meetings. My fantasy is to meet a guy have super hot attraction and a real good time between the sheets, this can happen on a vacation or whereever. I'm thinking the perfect sexual lover might be the right one for me?


RE: Which sub? Lover - Zane - 07-24-2017 04:55 AM

Yeah then go for it

Attract Your Perfect Sexual Lover - 4G


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 06:50 AM

Whats the difference between the perfect sexual lover/perfect romantic lover?

I mean what if I am not sure at this point where I want the relationship to be heading in future? Would I have to stop these subs and then try attract a boyfriend?


RE: Which sub? Lover - Alpha360 - 07-24-2017 07:20 AM

Sexual is for sex, romantic is more for fun and giggles, stable relationship, shared interest.
Some guys here have taken the sexual attracted partner to a stable relationship, but it doesn't seem to always work, some though it didn't last long like a month or 2.

If you are not sure you may want to try Develop Maximum Sexual Irresistibly 3.1-5.5G like Zane mentioned, it will not only boost your sex appeal but also your charisma, self esteem and a lot of others things mentioned in the product page, a lot of guys have reported better work offers and better status as a result.
It also has manifestation included, which will certainly manifest a lot of guys which you can pick from, you may find a long term relationship from it, though it wasn't meant for that. DMSI won't attract the perfect match for you but will bring more choice.

One last thing, the word perfect is related to you (attract your perfect), so the manifestation won't bring you a "super high self esteem centered" guy if you suffer from poor self esteem, it attract a reflection of yourself, perfect to your current state of evolution. If you choose a sub like DMSI instead as you grow and become more healthy, a better version of yourself you will attract better partners.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 07:48 AM

(07-24-2017 07:20 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  Sexual is for sex, romantic is more for fun and giggles, stable relationship, shared interest.
Some guys here have taken the sexual attracted partner to a stable relationship, but it doesn't seem to always work, some though it didn't last long like a month or 2.

If you are not sure you may want to try Develop Maximum Sexual Irresistibly 3.1-5.5G like Zane mentioned, it will not only boost your sex appeal but also your charisma, self esteem and a lot of others things mentioned in the product page, a lot of guys have reported better work offers and better status as a result.
It also has manifestation included, which will certainly manifest a lot of guys which you can pick from, you may find a long term relationship from it, though it wasn't meant for that. DMSI won't attract the perfect match for you but will bring more choice.

One last thing, the word perfect is related to you (attract your perfect), so the manifestation won't bring you a "super high self esteem centered" guy if you suffer from poor self esteem, it attract a reflection of yourself, perfect to your current state of evolution. If you choose a sub like DMSI instead as you grow and become more healthy, a better version of yourself you will attract better partners.

Ok it makes a lot of sense now. So I have futher question. Can you try the sexual lover and the romantic lover together? I'm asking this because I want to see what comes my way and then I can decide later if I want a serious relationship and move up to the DMSI + Attract a boyfriend subliminals.

Honestly right now I just desire some hot steamy sex preferably with a few different guys through random encounters.

I know I have been there before and later wanted a relationship so most likely my mind will change in the future.

Can you try and if you change your mind, switch to other subliminals later on?

If my perfect sexual lover has certain characteristics will this manifest through my desires and thoughts of what I put out there ultimately? eg; if I want him to be well endowed? Generous in bed?


RE: Which sub? Lover - Mr. Anderson - 07-24-2017 08:59 AM

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:  Ok it makes a lot of sense now. So I have futher question. Can you try the sexual lover and the romantic lover together? I'm asking this because I want to see what comes my way and then I can decide later if I want a serious relationship and move up to the DMSI + Attract a boyfriend subliminals.

No, it uses too much energy and divides your energy into two different directions = poor/no results

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:  Honestly right now I just desire some hot steamy sex preferably with a few different guys through random encounters.

In this case DMSI is your sub for sure.

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:  Can you try and if you change your mind, switch to other subliminals later on?

You can always change (with exception of multi-stagers), but if you try for too short it is just wasted energy. That's why Shannon said that manifestation subs should be done until you get a manifestation or until the required usage time is over without manifesting someone.

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:   If my perfect sexual lover has certain characteristics will this manifest through my desires and thoughts of what I put out there ultimately? eg; if I want him to be well endowed? Generous in bed?

As far I know it is defined by your subconscious definition of perfect lover.

P.S.: If you decide to take the perfect sexual lover path you should use the 5G version of the program (Manifest Your Perfect Sexual Lover), for romantic lover there is only the 4G version at this point.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 09:32 AM

(07-24-2017 08:59 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  
(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:  Ok it makes a lot of sense now. So I have futher question. Can you try the sexual lover and the romantic lover together? I'm asking this because I want to see what comes my way and then I can decide later if I want a serious relationship and move up to the DMSI + Attract a boyfriend subliminals.

No, it uses too much energy and divides your energy into two different directions = poor/no results

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:  Honestly right now I just desire some hot steamy sex preferably with a few different guys through random encounters.

In this case DMSI is your sub for sure.

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:  Can you try and if you change your mind, switch to other subliminals later on?

You can always change (with exception of multi-stagers), but if you try for too short it is just wasted energy. That's why Shannon said that manifestation subs should be done until you get a manifestation or until the required usage time is over without manifesting someone.

(07-24-2017 07:48 AM)xena Wrote:   If my perfect sexual lover has certain characteristics will this manifest through my desires and thoughts of what I put out there ultimately? eg; if I want him to be well endowed? Generous in bed?

As far I know it is defined by your subconscious definition of perfect lover.

P.S.: If you decide to take the perfect sexual lover path you should use the 5G version of the program (Manifest Your Perfect Sexual Lover), for romantic lover there is only the 4G version at this point.

Mr Anderson I kind of now understand how the subs work. I will be buying the perfect sexual lover 5G version. However I know I also need to work on my confidence can I use DMSI with it?

DMSI + Perfect Sexual Lover?

If not then I will get the sexual lover sub and give it a try to see who the universe matches me upto Big Grin


RE: Which sub? Lover - Alpha360 - 07-24-2017 09:46 AM

You can't use 2 sub at the time, not when they are 5G or above.

But you know DMSI almost contain the "attract your perfect sexual lover" , but it's not a perfect lover, it's any lover that is available around you, a lot more. Not even counting the amount of powerful technology that is in DMSI, it's much more powerful, and do a lot more. There is a reason as to why almost half the forum members are or were running DSMI, or should I say a lot of reasons.
Quote:from DMSI product description:
This program uses multiple active manifestation statements, working in concert.

Manifestation Statement #1 is aimed at making the program achieve it’s goals.

Manifestation Statement #2 is aimed at maximizing the number of people you encounter who are affected by, responsive to and interested by the effects this program has on you. This statement will likely help you create experiences in the present and future by guiding you to interact in various ways with people you find sexually attractive who you already know, as well as those you do not.

Manifestation Statement #3 is aimed at enhancing Manifestation statement #2.

Manifestation statement #4 seeks to manifest, as much as possible, actual physical sex with as many of the people who fit the goal descriptions as possible.

I'm not sure if it's possible that you may attract a perfect lover with DMSI, in theory it should be, maybe Shannon could tell us more about that.

But you then "Attract your perfect lover" is still a good sub too, it's a single focus on one person. It depends on what you want, one lover, or a lot of them.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 10:03 AM

Shannon it would be great to get your input.

What I desire right now in my life is:

* to meet a guy I am mutually sexually attracted to. I'm not sure I want to meet tons of guys but a couple (not all at once) would be nice to have explosive sexual chemistry and an adventure with even if its just a few times.

* I want him to have certain characteristics that I desire, I like a man who is not overly submissive between the sheets but not dominant either. I want to hook up with a guy who has good stamina, well endowed, will pleasure me and is discreet. When I'm in the mood I need a lot of sex in one session and to have orgasms Wink

* I don't desire someone clingy or wanting something too serious at this stage, I would like him to be respectful and caring but independent. I want to keep in contact with my perfect sexual lover but because I have a busy life I can't commit fully and I would need to go slow. I'm not sure if the sexual lover is a cold version and the perfect romantic lover better? I do need a man who will be good in bed more so than romance right now. I will probably want something more after I have gone through this 'sexual' phase which might be a while.

* I know if it ends with whoever comes into my life as a perfect sexual lover then I will probably attract another one because Shannon mentioned echos happening if you keep listening to the subliminal. I'm kind of ok with that until I feel I want something more then will look at changing subs in the future.

* I would like to work on my own body image and confidence too but I am working on that by exercising and also listening to some other subs that help with motivation and beauty.

Any recommendation would be great. I want to make start soon.


RE: Which sub? Lover - Alpha360 - 07-24-2017 10:14 AM

The perfect lover is supposed to give you the best sex ever, it can't get any better (supposedly). From the testimonial it seems to give that perfect match sexually. Which means romantic relationship may not be possible or restricted or not as compatible as you would like it to be or may not last due to incompatibility romantically.
But the sex will be the best you can get as it's the perfect match sexually, read some testimonial from those products.
There are cons and pros to both subs.
What restrains most people from running the "attract your perfect ***" product line is that you have wait from 1 month to 4, sometimes more, sometimes you don't get anything. A lot of people don't have the patience. Another cons is that you don't improve as much if you would be running another sub like DMSI.

On the good side what ever you chose you should get some steamy sex, should, nothing is sure but it's highly probable with enough time.

edited for typo


RE: Which sub? Lover - Mr. Anderson - 07-24-2017 10:28 AM

(07-24-2017 10:14 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  What restrains most people from running the "attract your perfect ***" product line is that you have wait from 1 month to 4, sometimes more

For 4G it is even up to 9 months.

I think first you should make your mind if one perfect lover is better for you than more "probably-less-than-perfect" lovers. And then decision should fall between DMSI and AYP/MYP. And it is possible to make the sexual lover more long term (I remember at least one ex-forum member with her submissive sexual lover), but despite some romantic feelings, in this case sex will be what keeps you both together.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 10:34 AM

(07-24-2017 10:14 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  The perfect lover is supposed to give you the best sex ever, it can't get any better (supposedly). From the testimonial it seems to give that perfect match sexually. Which means romantic relationship may not be possible or restricted or not as compatible as you would like it to be or may not last due to incompatibility romantically.
But the sex will be the best you can get as it's the perfect match sexually, read some testimonial from those products.
There are cons and pros to both subs.
What restrains most people from running the "attract your perfect ***" product line is that you have wait from 1 month to 4, sometimes more, sometimes you don't get anything. A lot of people don't have the patience. Another cons is that you don't improve as much if you would be running another sub like DMSI.

On the good side what ever you chose you should get some steamy sex, should, nothing is sure but it's highly probable with enough time.

edited for typo

Alpha360 you mentioned "The perfect lover is supposed to give you the best sex ever" do you mean the perfect sexual lover or the perfect romantic lover?

I have used subs to attract men in the past but not Shannon's this is what I found. I found they would eye me up but not approach me and when I tried I found they were married or had a girlfriend. I realised those subs were doing just that; 'attracting' which didn't mean it would lead to anything. Sometimes I did not find them attractive so there wasn't mutual attraction.
I find the same without the subs too I get male attention but it's not people I would desire to sleep with (creepy type of stalkerish guys) and the ones I do desire I find are taken (married/girlfriend) or not interested Undecided
I just want to bump into a guy I desire equally and have fun with him. A mysterious dark smouldering type of guy that just wows me in bed. If it lasts then I would like to see him again and again until I feel I want something serious, if he decides to stick around then good, if not then moving onto the next stage of subs.


RE: Which sub? Lover - Alpha360 - 07-24-2017 10:40 AM

Best sex is with the sexual one. The romantic one is perfect regarding the romantic side.
You can't have both perfect, unless Shannon create a sub with those specifics.
But the more specific you get the less probable that person exist.
The attracting sub will find a person that fit the description, which means in the case of the sexual lover that the person will be perfect sexually for you. The other part is up to chance, he could be compatible romantically or maybe he won't be, it depends on how lucky you are at this point.

Shannon subs are not like the other subs out there, use them and see for yourself or read some testimonial (that's why it cost a lot more)
DMSI is specifically programmed to overcome the approaching problems, from both side (you and the attracted)
Females should see a lot of results than males in this area, DMSI should work better on women (a woman listening to it), unfortunately there aren't many women who have run the sub. From some short testimonial some women have gotten results just from a few exposure to the sub.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 10:43 AM

(07-24-2017 10:28 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  
(07-24-2017 10:14 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  What restrains most people from running the "attract your perfect ***" product line is that you have wait from 1 month to 4, sometimes more

For 4G it is even up to 9 months.

I think first you should make your mind if one perfect lover is better for you than more "probably-less-than-perfect" lovers. And then decision should fall between DMSI and AYP/MYP. And it is possible to make the sexual lover more long term (I remember at least one ex-forum member with her submissive sexual lover), but despite some romantic feelings, in this case sex will be what keeps you both together.

I would rather have one perfect sexual lover than lots of lovers that are going to be disappointing. If it ends with the perfect one then I will keep listening and I am sure another one will show up? I am willing to wait a while to get the guy I am comfortable with and knows how to please me sexually. I have tried random guys before without subs and it frustrated me.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 10:47 AM

(07-24-2017 10:40 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  Best sex is with the sexual one. The romantic one is perfect regarding the romantic side.
You can't have both perfect, unless Shannon create a sub with those specifics.
But the more specific you get the less probable that person exist.
The attracting sub will find a person that fit the description, which means in the case of the sexual lover that the person will be perfect sexually for you. The other part is up to chance, he could be compatible romantically or maybe he won't be, it depends on how lucky you are at this point.

Shannon subs are not like the other subs out there, use them and see for yourself or read some testimonial.
DMSI is specifically programmed to overcome the approaching problems, from both side (you and the attracted)

Alpha360 have you tried the sexual one?

I will buy it today from this site. So question is while listening should I keep my sexual desires in my mind from time to time? I kind of want a guy who is well endowed and good with his tongue and loves to use it too Tongue Big Grin Will it happen automatically based on my desires within my subconscious or conscious being? I find myself fantasizing a lot about a sexual lover so I hope the sub will help attract what I dream and think about.


RE: Which sub? Lover - Alpha360 - 07-24-2017 11:00 AM

I haven't tried any "attract your perfect " type sub yet, the reason is that I prefer to work on a better version of myself before running that kind of sub. At the same time subs like DMSI also offers some manifestation even though it's not the "perfect" type.
Basically all the reasons I mentionned above.

You don't need to do anything while running manifestation type subs (any subs actually), it's better if you forget about it while using it.

Details about the relationship; like dick size or ability to use his tongue can't be specified. But the perfect should be perfect, what ever it means to you subconsciously which usually is better than what we want consciously, it can surprise you for the best.
For example Shannon once attracted a black woman and he had no idea he could like those type of women.


RE: Which sub? Lover - xena - 07-24-2017 11:05 AM

(07-24-2017 11:00 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  I haven't tried any "attract your perfect " type sub yet, the reason is that I prefer to work on a better version of myself before running that kind of sub. At the same time subs like DMSI also offers some manifestation even though it's not the "perfect" type.
Basically all the reasons I mentionned above.

You don't need to do anything while running manifestation type subs (any subs actually), it's better if you forget about it while using it.

Details about the relationship; like dick size or ability to use his tongue can't be specified. But the perfect should be perfect, what ever it means to you subconsciously which usually is better than what we want consciously, it can surprise you for the best.
For example Shannon once attracted a black woman and he had no idea he could like those type of women.

lol Big Grin Ok I will start it today and report back on the forum of results.

The other question I have is can I use the luck magnifier + ultimate success with the attract a sexual partner? I kind of need some luck in the career department right now too.