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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dilettante - 12-08-2016

I'm sure people much smarter than i can confirm or negate this but i believe disney's name is being crawled by Google, Bing, & Baidu-bot when those particular bots are logged on in the forum (see list of active users). As y'all SEO grandmasters in this forum know (pls correct as i am not), that google sends hundreds of refresh hits on popular sites with popular terms - not necessarily with what end user search keywords (i.e. google knows disney or any names associated with the brand is generating possible revenue hits for them so a massive crawl fest happens when disney the user posts a content. Notice that only when disney's thread is refreshed, there's forum glitches, not when his thread is buried).

TL;DR: forum gets google crawled hard only when disneyland usa adds new post thus bumping his thread up to newest post. Hard google crawl = forum overload on hits


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - bits - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 01:03 AM)Dilettante Wrote: I'm sure people much smarter than i can confirm or negate this but i believe disney's name is being crawled by Google, Bing, & Baidu-bot when those particular bots are logged on in the forum (see list of active users). As y'all SEO grandmasters in this forum know (pls correct as i am not), that google sends hundreds of refresh hits on popular sites with popular terms - not necessarily with what end user search keywords (i.e. google knows disney or any names associated with the brand is generating possible revenue hits for them so a massive crawl fest happens when disney the user posts a content. Notice that only when disney's thread is refreshed, there's forum glitches, not when his thread is buried).

TL;DR: forum gets google crawled hard only when disneyland usa adds new post thus bumping his thread up to newest post. Hard google crawl = forum overload on hits

No the terms used wouldn't affect how hard google crawls the forum, that is mostly determine by how often content is updated and how popular the site is. If google was crawling the site super hard nearly every post on this site would be indexed and searchable via google but that's clearly not the case since searching the site via google returns a lot less results than using the forums built-in search function.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - changer - 12-08-2016

Just 2 searches that your keyword tool did not show you:
"disneylandusa experiences" is nr. 1 in google.
"disneylandusa" is on page 3.

And dont tell me that there arent any results in keyword planer for that... do you really think that people do not seach for experience reports before they book expensive tickets? Or want to compare their own experiences to that of others and talk about it ect?

Quote:If google was crawling the site super hard nearly every post on this site would be indexed

Crawling and indexing is not the same.

Quote:searchable via google but that's clearly not the case since searching the site via google returns a lot less results

There is not necessarily a correlation between sites that google knows and those it shows if you do a search query.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 02:49 AM)yeah! Wrote: "How long can a period last" wtf?

I LOL'd so hard at that one.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-08-2016

I've made Andrew aware of the relevant posts on the disney thing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 02:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: I've made Andrew aware of the relevant posts on the disney thing.

Closing down Disney World, huh?

Well, as long as you make sure Space Mountain stays open, brother, WWWOOOOO!!!!!!!

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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 03:26 AM)CatMan Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 02:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: I've made Andrew aware of the relevant posts on the disney thing.

Closing down Disney World, huh?

Well, as long as you make sure Space Mountain stays open, brother, WWWOOOOO!!!!!!!

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I'm not the forum manager, Andrew is. He will be the one deciding how to handle it. I just make the audio around here. Smile


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - eternity - 12-08-2016

just to help sort out the issue, if there is a bot that is mass spamming the site, it's pretty easy to find out. i know a couple things about seo (and it looks like some of our brothers on the board also know about seo! awesome!)

Since the problem appearing has to do with "reaching maximum limit", i assume it's due to server overload. therefore, it's wise to check why the server is overloaded. is it purely from traffic? 5 minutes (or less) in google analytics and/or google webmasters tools will help identify if it really is from bot traffic or from malicious intent. rather than us assuming it's a member of this board

(12-08-2016, 02:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: I've made Andrew aware of the relevant posts on the disney thing.

(06-19-2016, 11:11 AM)eternitys_child Wrote: If search engines are really sending that much traffic to this site, Andrew can take a look at Google analytics and see where the traffic is coming from and see exactly what pages it is going TO.

From what I know of SEO, search engines stopped giving as much credit to sources from forums, as it used to be a major blackhat tactic to increase a sites visibility on the search engines. Google's panda and penguin update long since made forum sources obsolete forms of SEO. And if I'm not mistaken, hummingbird update actually causes penalty if these tactics haven't been cleaned up, in an effort to de spam the Web

Plus, you would think things like "benjamin" or "yeah" or "dissonance" would cause the same type of trends in their respective journals. As those are common words, directly used in usernames on the forum.

But I must say I am mighty suspicious myself. There do exist software that send massive amount of traffic to websites. It's a form of malicious attack, along the lines of hacking but without compromising your security. It just floods the system.

I implore IML to look at Google analytics and see where the traffic is being directed from. It's pretty easy to spot something suspicious.



RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Blink - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 02:18 AM)changer Wrote: Just 2 searches that your keyword tool did not show you:
"disneylandusa experiences" is nr. 1 in google.
"disneylandusa" is on page 3.

And dont tell me that there arent any results in keyword planer for that... do you really think that people do not seach for experience reports before they book expensive tickets? Or want to compare their own experiences to that of others and talk about it ect?

Quote:If google was crawling the site super hard nearly every post on this site would be indexed

Crawling and indexing is not the same.

Quote:searchable via google but that's clearly not the case since searching the site via google returns a lot less results

There is not necessarily a correlation between sites that google knows and those it shows if you do a search query.

It's not only due to Google searches. It would appear on the first page if you remove the space, that is if you search for "DisneylandUSA" instead of "Disneyland USA". But Google will correct you for that anyway.

What bother me is, when the server gets bogged down and you go to his profile, his status will almost always say that he's reading his own thread, but the last post on there would be hours ago. He's doing this on purpose, chances are.

If there's a way to block an IP that's doing more than 5-6 refreshes a minute, that would be the solution.


[split] Shannon's Journal Discussion - Spiritman - 12-08-2016

I just noticed that Disney posted and I just got the maximum server load limit. Everything was going fine until he posted. So, I think this proves that Disney is the root cause of the maximum server load limit message. Now I am not trying accuse him of doing anything wrong, but facts show every time he post. The maximum server load limit message shows up, so it is not hard to draw a conclusion that he is the cause of the maximum server load limit.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shadow2200 - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 08:44 AM)spiritman Wrote: I just noticed that Disney posted and I just got the maximum server load limit. Everything was going fine until he posted. So, I think this proves that Disney is the root cause of the maximum server load limit message.

Been getting that message a lot also. kinda got used to it


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Spiritman - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 08:48 AM)Shadow2200 Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 08:44 AM)spiritman Wrote: I just noticed that Disney posted and I just got the maximum server load limit. Everything was going fine until he posted. So, I think this proves that Disney is the root cause of the maximum server load limit message.

Been getting that message a lot also. kinda got used to it

Yes, I am somewhat use to it. However, it gets real annoying and ridiculous when you want to read people's journals but you can't because of this problem.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Lucius - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 08:53 AM)spiritman Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 08:48 AM)Shadow2200 Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 08:44 AM)spiritman Wrote: I just noticed that Disney posted and I just got the maximum server load limit. Everything was going fine until he posted. So, I think this proves that Disney is the root cause of the maximum server load limit message.

Been getting that message a lot also. kinda got used to it

Yes, I am somewhat use to it. However, it gets real annoying and ridiculous when you want to read people's journals but you can't because of this problem.

This is so annoying. I saw his thread go to the top of the forum and boom, I started getting the error message. I had to refresh several times just to reply to this.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - eternity - 12-08-2016

(12-08-2016, 08:35 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 12:19 AM)Minititan Wrote: Omg please get Andrew to fix it soon. I'm trying so hard to catch up on reading dmsi posts and I've literally threw my phone across the room in frustration. I can load one page, then that's it for at least 10 minutes. The Disneyland thread was dormant for a while, the views on this thread increased massively because of dmsi hype now suddenly it's started catching up again in views and the site again is almost unusable at times. How come the site worked fine when we were all online for days waiting for DMSI. But now it's like, nah max limit reached.

Lol why is good looking loser 3rd.

Bruh, it ain't that serious man. Your phone is expensive, mayne.

he works at a cell phone store, he can replace it Cool