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#ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-22-2016
It's finally official! I'm on DMSI!
I'm in the middle of my 3rd loop. I had some technical difficulties using my old iPhone, a few seconds of it freezing and breaking ASRB, but it's the first day so whatevs.
So far I don't feel anything noticeable, which is totally fine. Maybe a slight headache for a couple minutes and that's it.
I don't know how often I'll be posting in this journal, but I plan on running this version for at least 32 days. I'll evaluate then and see what I want to do. I may detail interactions with girls, but at this point I'm not expecting anything.
Here is a list of a few things I would like to accomplish while on DMSI 2.4:
-Clear and heal anything remaining that would hold me back or slow me down from achieving the sex life I'd really enjoy
-To cut off porn 100%
-Some kind of social/fun enhancement would be cool. The celebrity vibe some people experienced would be pretty epic
-To have a much more pleasant time on 2.4 than I did on E2
If some awesome stuff happens while I'm on 2.4, that'd be a great surprise, and I'd totally post about it. However, I'm mainly concerned about the four goals I listed.
I'll do all I can to give Shannon some helpful feedback! Hopefully, 3.0 will really change the game up when it releases.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-24-2016
Don't have too much time, just taking a break between working. Wanted to post while it's fresh and it seems to be a little different than other's results
I'm gonna be as objective as possible so Shannon can get a sense of what 2.4 does exactly. I'll be up front and clear: I did pass PLENTY of attractive and hot girls and they didn't approach. Having said that, I'm still interested in how 2.4 will be for me going forward
So far I haven't gotten in a flawless untinterrupted 5 loops. I came close today, but accidentally knocked the earphones out of my iPhone while changing shirts
Usage: Only Masked Track
Current Set up: TuneShell App on iPhone with FLAC track, earphones
Day 1
-slightly more forgetful, I left some food out which I can't remember the last time that happened
-got to sleep super easily. last loop finished an hour or so before bedtime
-felt a bit tired the next day when I woke up but totally functional
-low volume
Day 2
-brief headaches
-tired earlier than usual (played loops in middle of day) but could still think pretty clearly
-sex drive seems to be diminished. I can appreciate this. I'd rather it be diminished until I'm having sex than for it to be raging without having sex
Day 3 (Today)
-once I woke up in the middle of the night I found it hard to get back to sleep. When it was time for me to wake up
-throughout the whole day I felt an internal uneasiness, maybe it was a form of anxiety or something. It passed after my dance class
-When I got on my bus, the driver asked me for my name. We greet each other, but it's the first time he asked for my name
-Then later when I was getting on another bus, the driver asked what stop I was going to (this was usual). And then after, he mentioned the weather is nice (which it is) and I agreed. A little later on the stop, he asked me again where I was going and bit later commented that it's nice outside. He is old, but never in the past 2+ years has the man repeated the same thing like that
-So I walked into a building and I see a group further down the hall. I'm only heading to a bathroom to change for my dance class. I go to the bathroom on my immediate right. The stalls are being used. I come out and one girl in a group of four makes eye contact and smiles at me. It had to be intentional. She must have planned this when she saw me before I went into the bathroom. She only had about 1.5 seconds to actually make eye contact and smile. By the time I smiled back, the group had walked on. I did not get a thorough look at her. She was on the slimmer side though
-After my dance class, as I was walking out of the room, this one girl who's sitting near the door out gets up and comes out right behind me. I had talked to her before, but haven't in a while. She's the kind that's overweight but could totally be a 9 or maybe a 10 if she just went to the gym. I tried to smile at her as I opened the door since she was following behind me. After a bit, I decided that I'd talk to her since she left the room right behind me and hasn't done that before. It was so funny. I turned around and asked her if she's ready for performance day. She was surprised and was like "Me?" (No one was in front of me or next to me and I made eye contact when I asked, she was totally surprised). We talk for a bit as we walk out the building. I had to go a different direction so I waved and we said bye. Only afterwards did I realize how surprised she was and that I thought that I could have walked and talked with her longer. One of my friends want me to invite her to the gym and get her in shape lol
Current State:
I wasn't as freeflowingly social as I was during my E2 bloom week, but that's alright. It'll probably return with time. Other than that, I'm good. Emotionally, I feel fine right now. No dreams that I remember. So far, this is much smoother than E2. Hoping it stays this way and gets better
I can tell that something is happening, which is good. I'm glad to see external differences already and I know that I'm still getting the clearing benefits! Win win!
I'll probably update in a few days.
P.S. Almost forgot! Ever since starting 2.4 I have been LESS HUNGRY than usual. I'm the only one that's experienced this I think.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - eternity - 10-24-2016
i am experiencing some parallels with you
2.4 has reduced my appetite TREMENDOUSLY as well.
sex drive on 2.4 is a lot lower for me as well
im also having headaches.
sleep is troublesome while listening to 2.4
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-25-2016
(10-24-2016, 10:47 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: i am experiencing some parallels with you
2.4 has reduced my appetite TREMENDOUSLY as well.
sex drive on 2.4 is a lot lower for me as well
im also having headaches.
sleep is troublesome while listening to 2.4
Do you think 2.4 is using body fat? It uses physical sources of energy iirc.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - RTBoss - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 06:31 AM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-24-2016, 10:47 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: i am experiencing some parallels with you
2.4 has reduced my appetite TREMENDOUSLY as well.
sex drive on 2.4 is a lot lower for me as well
im also having headaches.
sleep is troublesome while listening to 2.4
Do you think 2.4 is using body fat? It uses physical sources of energy iirc.
Shannon adjusted the sourcing of V2.5, where he did not specify body fat, but also did not eliminate it from contention. V2.4 is still food-sourced.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 06:33 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(10-25-2016, 06:31 AM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-24-2016, 10:47 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: i am experiencing some parallels with you
2.4 has reduced my appetite TREMENDOUSLY as well.
sex drive on 2.4 is a lot lower for me as well
im also having headaches.
sleep is troublesome while listening to 2.4
Do you think 2.4 is using body fat? It uses physical sources of energy iirc.
Shannon adjusted the sourcing of V2.5, where he did not specify body fat, but also did not eliminate it from contention. V2.4 is still food-sourced.
I see. Then I wonder what makes me and Eternity less hungry.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - RTBoss - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 06:36 AM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-25-2016, 06:33 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(10-25-2016, 06:31 AM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-24-2016, 10:47 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: i am experiencing some parallels with you
2.4 has reduced my appetite TREMENDOUSLY as well.
sex drive on 2.4 is a lot lower for me as well
im also having headaches.
sleep is troublesome while listening to 2.4
Do you think 2.4 is using body fat? It uses physical sources of energy iirc.
Shannon adjusted the sourcing of V2.5, where he did not specify body fat, but also did not eliminate it from contention. V2.4 is still food-sourced.
I see. Then I wonder what makes me and Eternity less hungry.
Yeah, I couldn't say. I didn't have increased hunger on either V2.4 or V2.5.
I honestly haven't felt it since V1.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - Duke.Togo - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 06:36 AM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-25-2016, 06:33 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(10-25-2016, 06:31 AM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-24-2016, 10:47 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: i am experiencing some parallels with you
2.4 has reduced my appetite TREMENDOUSLY as well.
sex drive on 2.4 is a lot lower for me as well
im also having headaches.
sleep is troublesome while listening to 2.4
Do you think 2.4 is using body fat? It uses physical sources of energy iirc.
Shannon adjusted the sourcing of V2.5, where he did not specify body fat, but also did not eliminate it from contention. V2.4 is still food-sourced.
I see. Then I wonder what makes me and Eternity less hungry.
I didn't have much of an appetite on 2.4 either. Looking back on it, I spent most of 2.4 in a constant state of being in my head. I also had trouble sleeping and looked like a mess most of the time.
2.5 has been physically and mentally much better for me.
I believe that those affects you are feeling are par the course for 2.4. It's not an easy sub.
That being said, I definitely felt some of the clearing affects after I stopped. But, I'm also not looking to go back on 2.4. It was not a pleasant run in hindsight.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-25-2016
Unrelated to DMSI
I'm just frustrated. I invited a girl out to grab some food soon from one of my classes and she was ridiculously hesitant. And she was like "just to hang out?". Without thinking I just said yeah. And she said she'll let me know on Saturday. I said I'm probably busy, but let's just exchange numbers. A lot more hesitation and "ums" and bullshit. After like a minute of all this SHIT, I was just like "Nevermind, it's fine." and acted like I was brushing it off. I'm SO SICK of being in this FUCKING position! And no, I wasn't expecting any "boost" from DMSI! She had been giving fucking "iois" for most of the semester.
FUCK THIS. FUCK IT ALL.
Instead of just forgetting about it, I'm gonna have to see her whenever I go to class and she'll be there in the social circle. THIS is why I'm so particular with who I choose. Because I gotta live with the repurcussions for next year plus! I'M SICK OF FUCKING LOSING
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - bits - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 02:52 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Unrelated to DMSI
I'm just frustrated. I invited a girl out to grab some food soon from one of my classes and she was ridiculously hesitant. And she was like "just to hang out?". Without thinking I just said yeah. And she said she'll let me know on Saturday. I said I'm probably busy, but let's just exchange numbers. A lot more hesitation and "ums" and *****. After like a minute of all this SHIT, I was just like "Nevermind, it's fine." and acted like I was brushing it off. I'm SO SICK of being in this ***** position! And no, I wasn't expecting any "boost" from DMSI! She had been giving ***** "iois" for most of the semester.
**** THIS. **** IT ALL.
Instead of just forgetting about it, I'm gonna have to see her whenever I go to class and she'll be there in the social circle. THIS is why I'm so particular with who I choose. Because I gotta live with the repurcussions for next year plus! I'M SICK OF ***** LOSING
I feel where you're coming from but women in this age range, even the hot ones, can be incredibly insecure about dating and sex. You're job as a man, especially in the context of dating/sex, is to reassure them that nothing is a big deal.
Exchanging numbers is no big deal, going for coffee is no big deal, kissing is no big deal, going back to your place is no big deal, having sex is no big deal, getting into a relationship is no big deal, splitting up is no big deal, seeing each other in social circle after a breakup is no big deal, etc.
On the flip-side, her not giving you her number is no big deal, not going on a date with you is no big deal, not kissing you is no big deal, not sleeping with you is no big deal, etc.
By getting upset at her like that you kind of proved her intuition right, that for you coffee was a big deal and that she was right to be nervous and insecure about it. If you weren't visibly mad at her it may be salvageable if you want to get to know her just put it behind you and act normal towards her as if nothing ever happened and try again some other time.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 03:11 PM)bits Wrote:(10-25-2016, 02:52 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Unrelated to DMSI
I'm just frustrated. I invited a girl out to grab some food soon from one of my classes and she was ridiculously hesitant. And she was like "just to hang out?". Without thinking I just said yeah. And she said she'll let me know on Saturday. I said I'm probably busy, but let's just exchange numbers. A lot more hesitation and "ums" and *****. After like a minute of all this SHIT, I was just like "Nevermind, it's fine." and acted like I was brushing it off. I'm SO SICK of being in this ***** position! And no, I wasn't expecting any "boost" from DMSI! She had been giving ***** "iois" for most of the semester.
**** THIS. **** IT ALL.
Instead of just forgetting about it, I'm gonna have to see her whenever I go to class and she'll be there in the social circle. THIS is why I'm so particular with who I choose. Because I gotta live with the repurcussions for next year plus! I'M SICK OF ***** LOSING
I feel where you're coming from but women in this age range, even the hot ones, can be incredibly insecure about dating and sex. You're job as a man, especially in the context of dating/sex, is to reassure them that nothing is a big deal.
Exchanging numbers is no big deal, going for coffee is no big deal, kissing is no big deal, going back to your place is no big deal, having sex is no big deal, getting into a relationship is no big deal, splitting up is no big deal, seeing each other in social circle after a breakup is no big deal, etc.
On the flip-side, her not giving you her number is no big deal, not going on a date with you is no big deal, not kissing you is no big deal, not sleeping with you is no big deal, etc.
By getting upset at her like that you kind of proved her intuition right, that for you coffee was a big deal and that she was right to be nervous and insecure about it. If you weren't visibly mad at her it may be salvageable if you want to get to know her just put it behind you and act normal towards her as if nothing ever happened and try again some other time.
I can practically guarantee that I will not "try again". I'm not gonna make myself lose twice to the same girl. That's fucking bullshit
However, I'm use to just being normal the next time I encounter them. I've done it many times. The only way something will happen between us now is if she gives me her number and invites me out.
I don't need this shit.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - RTBoss - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 03:18 PM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-25-2016, 03:11 PM)bits Wrote:(10-25-2016, 02:52 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Unrelated to DMSI
I'm just frustrated. I invited a girl out to grab some food soon from one of my classes and she was ridiculously hesitant. And she was like "just to hang out?". Without thinking I just said yeah. And she said she'll let me know on Saturday. I said I'm probably busy, but let's just exchange numbers. A lot more hesitation and "ums" and *****. After like a minute of all this SHIT, I was just like "Nevermind, it's fine." and acted like I was brushing it off. I'm SO SICK of being in this ***** position! And no, I wasn't expecting any "boost" from DMSI! She had been giving ***** "iois" for most of the semester.
**** THIS. **** IT ALL.
Instead of just forgetting about it, I'm gonna have to see her whenever I go to class and she'll be there in the social circle. THIS is why I'm so particular with who I choose. Because I gotta live with the repurcussions for next year plus! I'M SICK OF ***** LOSING
I feel where you're coming from but women in this age range, even the hot ones, can be incredibly insecure about dating and sex. You're job as a man, especially in the context of dating/sex, is to reassure them that nothing is a big deal.
Exchanging numbers is no big deal, going for coffee is no big deal, kissing is no big deal, going back to your place is no big deal, having sex is no big deal, getting into a relationship is no big deal, splitting up is no big deal, seeing each other in social circle after a breakup is no big deal, etc.
On the flip-side, her not giving you her number is no big deal, not going on a date with you is no big deal, not kissing you is no big deal, not sleeping with you is no big deal, etc.
By getting upset at her like that you kind of proved her intuition right, that for you coffee was a big deal and that she was right to be nervous and insecure about it. If you weren't visibly mad at her it may be salvageable if you want to get to know her just put it behind you and act normal towards her as if nothing ever happened and try again some other time.
I can practically guarantee that I will not "try again". I'm not gonna make myself lose twice to the same girl. That's ***** *****
However, I'm use to just being normal the next time I encounter them. I've done it many times. The only way something will happen between us now is if she gives me her number and invites me out.
I don't need this shit.
Was she perhaps insinuating she wanted more than just "hanging out?"
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - maxx55 - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 03:28 PM)RTBoss Wrote:(10-25-2016, 03:18 PM)maxx55 Wrote:(10-25-2016, 03:11 PM)bits Wrote:(10-25-2016, 02:52 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Unrelated to DMSI
I'm just frustrated. I invited a girl out to grab some food soon from one of my classes and she was ridiculously hesitant. And she was like "just to hang out?". Without thinking I just said yeah. And she said she'll let me know on Saturday. I said I'm probably busy, but let's just exchange numbers. A lot more hesitation and "ums" and *****. After like a minute of all this SHIT, I was just like "Nevermind, it's fine." and acted like I was brushing it off. I'm SO SICK of being in this ***** position! And no, I wasn't expecting any "boost" from DMSI! She had been giving ***** "iois" for most of the semester.
**** THIS. **** IT ALL.
Instead of just forgetting about it, I'm gonna have to see her whenever I go to class and she'll be there in the social circle. THIS is why I'm so particular with who I choose. Because I gotta live with the repurcussions for next year plus! I'M SICK OF ***** LOSING
I feel where you're coming from but women in this age range, even the hot ones, can be incredibly insecure about dating and sex. You're job as a man, especially in the context of dating/sex, is to reassure them that nothing is a big deal.
Exchanging numbers is no big deal, going for coffee is no big deal, kissing is no big deal, going back to your place is no big deal, having sex is no big deal, getting into a relationship is no big deal, splitting up is no big deal, seeing each other in social circle after a breakup is no big deal, etc.
On the flip-side, her not giving you her number is no big deal, not going on a date with you is no big deal, not kissing you is no big deal, not sleeping with you is no big deal, etc.
By getting upset at her like that you kind of proved her intuition right, that for you coffee was a big deal and that she was right to be nervous and insecure about it. If you weren't visibly mad at her it may be salvageable if you want to get to know her just put it behind you and act normal towards her as if nothing ever happened and try again some other time.
I can practically guarantee that I will not "try again". I'm not gonna make myself lose twice to the same girl. That's ***** *****
However, I'm use to just being normal the next time I encounter them. I've done it many times. The only way something will happen between us now is if she gives me her number and invites me out.
I don't need this shit.
Was she perhaps insinuating she wanted more than just "hanging out?"
Someone I mentioned this to (I only talk to a handful of very close people about things like this) said the same thing.
I don't know. I just don't think that if you like someone, you won't be like "just hanging out?" They'll just follow the lead and if they're not serious about it, they'all ask to bring a friend along.
RE: #ForeverHealing DMSI 2.4 - 4Kingdoms - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 03:28 PM)RTBoss Wrote: Was she perhaps insinuating she wanted more than just "hanging out?"
(10-25-2016, 03:44 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Someone I mentioned this to (I only talk to a handful of very close people about things like this) said the same thing.
I don't know. I just don't think that if you like someone, you won't be like "just hanging out?" They'll just follow the lead and if they're not serious about it, they'all ask to bring a friend along.
Maxx, Why is this so hard for you to grasp?? You are listening to 2.4. Yes, there are some girls/women out there that will say, "Do you wanna F***??" Most are not as direct and don't want to appear as sl*ts, "Do you wanna hang out??" as subtle as it is, is as direct as they are going to get.