(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

(07-24-2016, 01:43 PM)K-Train Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

I think the key here is that your wife, GF, etc. shouldn't be the primary source of your happiness. Before you even meet them you should already be happy with yourself and content. The companionship and attention of women should be a perk; an add-on to what you already have.

Here's a good analogy: Let's say your car engine has the ability to generate its own energy (regardless of how realistic it currently is) BUT adding gasoline allows it to perform at 150% vs 100% (with no gasoline). Obviously having some gasoline is going to really provide a boost however if that engine runs out of gas it still can run and the car can keep going.

Now let's suppose you have a car that relies on gasoline to function. Once it runs out of gas it'll eventually stop dead and shut off until you re-fuel it. A lot of people (myself included) have operated like this in the past in regards to women or currently ARE operating like this with women. Which engine would you rather have? The engine that is self-sufficient but can be boosted with additional help or the engine that relies on gas (women in this case) in order to keep going?

You are correct Ricardo in that humans are social creatures and social interactions do play a role in our health. My point with all this is that women should/can be a "power source" for your well-being as long as they aren't the PRIMARY power source for your happiness and well-being.

(07-24-2016, 01:43 PM)K-Train Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

I think the key here is that your wife, GF, etc. shouldn't be the primary source of your happiness. Before you even meet them you should already be happy with yourself and content. The companionship and attention of women should be a perk; an add-on to what you already have.

Here's a good analogy: Let's say your car engine has the ability to generate its own energy (regardless of how realistic it currently is) BUT adding gasoline allows it to perform at 150% vs 100% (with no gasoline). Obviously having some gasoline is going to really provide a boost however if that engine runs out of gas it still can run and the car can keep going.

Now let's suppose you have a car that relies on gasoline to function. Once it runs out of gas it'll eventually stop dead and shut off until you re-fuel it. A lot of people (myself included) have operated like this in the past in regards to women or currently ARE operating like this with women. Which engine would you rather have? The engine that is self-sufficient but can be boosted with additional help or the engine that relies on gas (women in this case) in order to keep going?

You are correct Ricardo in that humans are social creatures and social interactions do play a role in our health. My point with all this is that women should/can be a "power source" for your well-being as long as they aren't the PRIMARY power source for your happiness and well-being.

(07-23-2016, 11:02 PM)Benjamin Wrote:

Quote:Whatever then I'll just leave this place cause that's messed up if people can be insanely rude to me and I can't defend myself in any way whatsoever.

Peace.

Most of these posts you've responded to fully attacking people they haven't even been rude. Your posts are over the top overreactions to simple things and you're just flaming people. You yourself said "I come on to let out negativity" and you're letting it out on people where it's not warranted.

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"Flaming" others, flame wars, and unnecessary rudeness and arguing are prohibited.
Flaming others, flame wars and rudeness are never necessary.
Disagreements are inevitable; civility is required. Be kind, polite and considerate to each other at all times.
Have decorum. Use appropriate and clean language. This is a public forum where we discuss things in a civil (and hopefully friendly) manner, not a barbarian camp.

(07-24-2016, 02:46 PM)Ricardo Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:43 PM)K-Train Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

I think the key here is that your wife, GF, etc. shouldn't be the primary source of your happiness. Before you even meet them you should already be happy with yourself and content. The companionship and attention of women should be a perk; an add-on to what you already have.

Here's a good analogy: Let's say your car engine has the ability to generate its own energy (regardless of how realistic it currently is) BUT adding gasoline allows it to perform at 150% vs 100% (with no gasoline). Obviously having some gasoline is going to really provide a boost however if that engine runs out of gas it still can run and the car can keep going.

Now let's suppose you have a car that relies on gasoline to function. Once it runs out of gas it'll eventually stop dead and shut off until you re-fuel it. A lot of people (myself included) have operated like this in the past in regards to women or currently ARE operating like this with women. Which engine would you rather have? The engine that is self-sufficient but can be boosted with additional help or the engine that relies on gas (women in this case) in order to keep going?

You are correct Ricardo in that humans are social creatures and social interactions do play a role in our health. My point with all this is that women should/can be a "power source" for your well-being as long as they aren't the PRIMARY power source for your happiness and well-being.

The engine examples don't really cut it. I see what you are trying to say but that's too simplistic. An engine doesn't have the character and qualities of a human, yes a self sufficient one might run under it's own energy well being but it's still an engine and wouldn't care about fuel because it's just a machine with moving parts. My previous statement still stands. Women are fundamental to our continued existence, which is why the drive within males is so strong to procreate. Women are certainly not just as perk or an add-on.

(07-24-2016, 03:11 PM)K-Train Wrote: My statement was centered mainly on the belief/opinion that you NEED women to MAKE you happy. Of course I have the desire to sleep with, procreate with, and possibly even settle down with a woman but I don't want that to be the end all be all to achieving happiness for myself.

My life should already be good (for me). I should already be happy by myself. I should already be at 100% (or damn near close). A wonderful woman (or a woman in general) shouldn't be required for me to be 100%. She should boost what's already there. And I should have that same effect on her. I should be boosting what's already there within her. That's what I'm getting at. Sometimes I hear men say "I need a woman to complete me." For them, that's fine. For me, I want my spouse to AMPLIFY me.

We can agree to disagree though since you guys are pretty entrenched which is fine, I just prefer something different is all.

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

(07-24-2016, 04:02 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

The only people who come out with that "women don't make you happy BS" are the people who have figured out what you guys who are miserable without women haven't, and we have women specifically because of it.

Here's how it works.

When you seek outside yourself for what you must find within yourself, you fail. When you seek inside yourself for what comes from within you, you succeed.

This is also why you hear people saying that it's when you stop looking that you find love. It's because you stopped seeking outside yourself for what must come from within you, and once you understand and do that, it is naturally available to you.

I have spent years and years on end alone and frustrated. Now I have women in my life because as a consequence of those experiences, I chose to seek within myself for what I need to get from within myself instead of playing the game of seeking it from someone else.

Seeking outside yourself for what you need from within you results, always in the following:

1. Having a harder and harder time accomplishing what you're seeking, because
2. it makes you move AWAY from the real source of what you seek and
3. this makes you desperate, and
4. it makes you appear and act desperate, which results in #1.

Until you guys GET this, you will ALWAYS have the mindset that restricts, limits and repels what you THINK you want from outside yourself.

Until you guys GET this, you will NEVER be truly happy.

But hey, what do I know. I've only achieved what you want, from where you are.

(07-24-2016, 04:02 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

The only people who come out with that "women don't make you happy BS" are the people who have figured out what you guys who are miserable without women haven't, and we have women specifically because of it.

Here's how it works.

When you seek outside yourself for what you must find within yourself, you fail. When you seek inside yourself for what comes from within you, you succeed.

This is also why you hear people saying that it's when you stop looking that you find love. It's because you stopped seeking outside yourself for what must come from within you, and once you understand and do that, it is naturally available to you.

I have spent years and years on end alone and frustrated. Now I have women in my life because as a consequence of those experiences, I chose to seek within myself for what I need to get from within myself instead of playing the game of seeking it from someone else.

Seeking outside yourself for what you need from within you results, always in the following:

1. Having a harder and harder time accomplishing what you're seeking, because
2. it makes you move AWAY from the real source of what you seek and
3. this makes you desperate, and
4. it makes you appear and act desperate, which results in #1.

Until you guys GET this, you will ALWAYS have the mindset that restricts, limits and repels what you THINK you want from outside yourself.

Until you guys GET this, you will NEVER be truly happy.

But hey, what do I know. I've only achieved what you want, from where you are.

(07-24-2016, 04:02 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-24-2016, 01:27 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Of course the only people that come out with the "women don't make you happy" bs are always the ones who have women in their lives. Try living without your wive's, girlfriends or what have you, for say the next 20 years, then make the same statement.

The only people who come out with that "women don't make you happy BS" are the people who have figured out what you guys who are miserable without women haven't, and we have women specifically because of it.

Here's how it works.

When you seek outside yourself for what you must find within yourself, you fail. When you seek inside yourself for what comes from within you, you succeed.

This is also why you hear people saying that it's when you stop looking that you find love. It's because you stopped seeking outside yourself for what must come from within you, and once you understand and do that, it is naturally available to you.

I have spent years and years on end alone and frustrated. Now I have women in my life because as a consequence of those experiences, I chose to seek within myself for what I need to get from within myself instead of playing the game of seeking it from someone else.

Seeking outside yourself for what you need from within you results, always in the following:

1. Having a harder and harder time accomplishing what you're seeking, because
2. it makes you move AWAY from the real source of what you seek and
3. this makes you desperate, and
4. it makes you appear and act desperate, which results in #1.

Until you guys GET this, you will ALWAYS have the mindset that restricts, limits and repels what you THINK you want from outside yourself.

Until you guys GET this, you will NEVER be truly happy.

But hey, what do I know. I've only achieved what you want, from where you are.