(06-09-2016, 04:54 AM)Jones Wrote:

(06-08-2016, 02:56 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: ...There are so many of you now using 5G subliminals. I presume its too early to validate 5.5G of course, however those of you that are on 5G i can't help but feel are getting the same effects as if it was a 4G or even 3G. Why do I say this? Its because what I have read seems to be the same, that either they haven't got every thing that is listed to be gained from the product on its product page, or that the listener (yes YOU) has decided its best to listen for 6month, 9months, or longer.

I recall a year ago reading journals from those using 4G subs saying the same and it seems the same.

Now I'm not sure what you are all going to say to this but I'm eager to hear.

I also can't help but notice that all of you fail at some point and call it resistance and decide to then jump onto the EHPRA subliminal to clear this resistance. So I'm now wondering whether its better and of benefit to us all if for every single sub, whether a single sub or even a 6stage sub, whether it has ERPHA in there or not, that there is a strong advice to being ERPHA and for the listener to be on that irrespective of their own personal feelings and to clear all resistance before jumping onto another sub. [/color]

What do you all think? - I guess ill also guess to see how many of you are even reading my journal this way hahahaha

I will be following your EHPRA2 journal closely, as you seem to be one of the better journalists I have read to date here... and E2 is my next phase.

I like the way you give details that are, or should be, pertinent to your experience with the subliminal, and relevant to the reader (even if your journal is purely for your own edification).

Further, pursuant to the quoted material above, I appreciate your thorough research, observations, and the connecting of dots.

I do not have enough knowledge about subliminals to answer your question. but I am certainly interested in whatever theories more experienced users may have.

(06-09-2016, 05:04 AM)cashmerecat Wrote:

(06-08-2016, 02:56 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: This is just something on my mind, not a big deal at the moment but could become if I don't get it off my proverbial chest and lay it at your feet (or should it be feets since there's so many of you here, then again as only YOU, the singular YOU, yes you, reading this right now, yes I'm talking to you, don't look behind you, I'm referring to you, the person, alone at this screen reading my words right you, thats right you, ahem YOU, is a singular you so perhaps you should be the reason the feet are singular....ponder on that while I give you my additional thoughts to ponder on).

As I read the journal entries from each of you (no don't worry not going to go into the whole YOU business again lol) my esteemed fellow elves that are here as part of this fellowship. I seem to come across a common thread. Now I may be absolutely wrong and I hope I am which is why I'm putting this here to get your take on the matter, rather than hold it within and allowing it to fester deep with my subconscious, countering the benefits of E2, or making its work that much harder.

So what is it thats entered my fold of thought?

Well it is this. There are so many of you now using 5G subliminals. I presume its too early to validate 5.5G of course, however those of you that are on 5G i can't help but feel are getting the same effects as if it was a 4G or even 3G. Why do I say this? Its because what I have read seems to be the same, that either they haven't got every thing that is listed to be gained from the product on its product page, or that the listener (yes YOU) has decided its best to listen for 6month, 9months, or longer.

I recall a year ago reading journals from those using 4G subs saying the same and it seems the same.

Now I'm not sure what you are all going to say to this but I'm eager to hear.

I also can't help but notice that all of you fail at some point and call it resistance and decide to then jump onto the EHPRA subliminal to clear this resistance. So I'm now wondering whether its better and of benefit to us all if for every single sub, whether a single sub or even a 6stage sub, whether it has ERPHA in there or not, that there is a strong advice to being ERPHA and for the listener to be on that irrespective of their own personal feelings and to clear all resistance before jumping onto another sub.

I agree that it would be very beneficial to run EHPRA before any other subs. I only saw tangible results with my 4G sub after running EHPRA for a short 32 days.

(06-09-2016, 05:39 AM)Jake2015 Wrote:

"FREQUENSEE" MOBILE/CELL PHONE APP

Introduction
For anyone that isn't sure, this is a mobile/cell/handy phone app that measures the output of a given source of sound, be it speakers, a human mouth, hell even a cockrell I guess lol

(You can download it for free from your phone's app store)

Many here have used this app in the past to verify that their speakers are able to play the Ultrasonic track/ US Track.

I haven't used this app before until today. I am using it to see that my laptop is indeed able to play the ultrasonic, thus alleviating any doubts I had, that my 2hours listening yesterday was debatable.

I am writing this post in the hope that someone if not everyone that has used this app can kindly inform me that my use of this app was correct and that my results were good or bad etc.

I am not very technical savvy thus hope what and how I did this was correct and helps others too.


Methodology
As far as I know, I have used it correctly.
After installing the app to my ANDROID SAMSUNG phone I played the trickling stream track on my laptop to make sure the sound was loud enough (mid level seemed okay for now), then played the ocean to recheck and then the subliminal.

I clicked on the app and voila, the app came on immediately revealing a line graph, with db (decibels) on the Y-Axis (thats the one on the left, that always goes from north to south) and hertz/Hz on the X-Axis (left to right, usually the scale at the bottom of a graph, can be going across the top too I think).

The green line graph was already vibrating/bouncing up and down even before I played any tracks, and that must have been the sounds in the room already (not the 'moaning' from my previous post, which is a shame lol).

I believe that the earpiece on my phone, where my ear goes to hear someone that has called me is NOT the microphone but a speaker. I also believe that the speaker located on the back of my phone, within the casing is also not the correct place from which to pick up sound for this app.

The mouth piece on my phone, that hole located at the bottom of my phone, which is where I speak into when I am talking to someone on the phone, is the microphone and so the part of the phone that would pick up the sounds that freequensee would use.

(I used the app at first for the trickling stream and then the ocean track to see that the app worked, and brought the phones mouth piece close to my laptop's speakers and then withdrew it slowly away to my ears and then as far behind me as my arms would reach - because I'm lazy and didn't want get up lol - and the whole time, the line graph was vibrating like the voice interface for KITT, the talking car of Knight Rider, on the dashboard of the car lol)

I played the US Track, repeated the same process of bringing the mouth piece to my laptops speakers (located on my mac book pro, under the monitor/screen) and slowly pulled it away, observing the graph the whole time.


Results
Unfortunately I have no idea how to post a picture within this post, otherwise id have taken a screenshot of my graph's results for you all.

So you will have to take my word for it lol

What I saw was a fairly insignificant line that hardly moved until it reached the 18 or 19Khz point (located on the X-Axis).

Here the graph spiked up sharply, almost like a mountain would be drawn by a child or myself lol or an Isosceles triangle (google it please).

The point/apex/pinnacle/summit of this sharp risen line - on the graph - at the 18th or 19th Khz point read -30db on the (Y-Axis).

The graph from the 18th or 19th kHz point did a sharp dive, equal to its sharp rise on the other mountain face and reached the base at 20khz. The base for all of the graph being -80khz.

As I withdrew the phone away from the laptop, to my hears and as far back as my hand would go, it remained the same value.


Additional EDIT:

I have just played the track and walked away to cut some bread and the app revealed that the peak of -30db went down to -50db.

Is this Good or Bad??


Conclusion
Is this correct?


Afterthought
If this is correct, then I know that in the future, if I'm not sat at my laptop (as I'm doing right now and this is the same distance I was when I underwent this test/research), then I can use this app to verify that the US is indeed still reaching my ears - for example if I'm washing dishes or on the other side of my room etc.

If the sound isn't reaching me, then I'm assuming that simply increasing the volume on my laptop will fix this, correct?

(06-09-2016, 08:57 AM)DisneylandUSA Wrote: Great that you are fine tuning the sound on EHPRA 5.5 G. I noticed others have photos or images on their posts; try to ask how they did that. It is under 'User CP' somewhere under Edit Profile, attachments

(06-09-2016, 12:21 PM)changer Wrote: Hi Jake,

nice post. I just installed and tried the app - also for EPRHA US - and i got a similar graph.

"The base for all of the graph being -80khz."
Did you mean -80db?

"Is this Good or Bad??"
I am not 100% sure but I think it just means that the signal got quieter since you were further away. So it would only be bad if a -50db signal would be to quiet to understand at the location. Why not test it with a non-us track (maybe with an audiobook) loud enough that you geht a reocurring -30db peak at your laptop area and then stand up and go to your bread cutting area. If the signal also falls to -50db and you can still understand the spoken words everything should be fine.
Although I am not sure if you can treat US Signals the same as "normal" signals - that might be your question after all...

"If the sound isn't reaching me, then I'm assuming that simply increasing the volume on my laptop will fix this, correct?"
I think so, too. But I would always test the loudness with a normal track to prevent blowing your ears with the US track. Btw: Why not testing the loudness at your bread cutting area with the ocean and trickling tracks as shannon tells us to do?

(06-09-2016, 04:44 PM)CatMan Wrote: -50db for what format? If it's masked, then I'd say no unless it was headphones. Given the fact the subliminal audio for masked is much lower than the masked audio track, then it may not have much power at that volume.

Ultrasonic, due to the subliminal audio being much louder (at the level of the masked track's masking sound), is okay at -50db, but a bit on the quiet side.

Basically, up to -30db max is the loudest you'd want to go safely. I listen between -35 to -40 with headphones, at that level there's no chance of hearing damage, and it's still plenty powerful. The louder the better up to those levels.

Lets see how this plan goes shall we