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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - AlphaRomeo - 09-24-2015

^^^^oh,sorry about that Benjamin. You are right, here´s the thread: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5763.html?highlight=base <- so it was CatMan who said...that Shannon has said! (Did I say "junks"? lol)

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Natious - 09-25-2015

Can't wait for ASC in 6g. I've run ASC for 32 days in the past which compared to 4g OF(100+ days into it now) seemed to work way faster and more noticeably. Can't even imagine how awesome it would be to run ASC 6g for 6 months.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Superman - 09-29-2015

The way Shannon talks about 6g putting you down makes it sound like we're going to have to take a day off from work or school to recover from the sub.

If it provides lasting results I'll gladly take a week off

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Voytek - 09-29-2015

(09-29-2015, 03:22 PM)Superman Wrote: The way Shannon talks about 6g putting you down makes it sound like we're going to have to take a day off from work or school to recover from the sub.

If it provides lasting results I'll gladly take a week off

It`s a prototype, so wa can assume that this "side effect" will be eliminated for final versions. Smile

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 09-30-2015

(09-29-2015, 10:27 PM)Voytek Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 03:22 PM)Superman Wrote: The way Shannon talks about 6g putting you down makes it sound like we're going to have to take a day off from work or school to recover from the sub.

If it provides lasting results I'll gladly take a week off

It`s a prototype, so wa can assume that this "side effect" will be eliminated for final versions. Smile

I also saw posts from him saying the same kind of thing about how exhausting 5G was. The EXACT kind of thing lol. That it made him pass out for a huge amount of time, it's super powerful etc. Also ones from 5G and 4G saying he's probably never going to find something more powerful than them lol. Progress is a beautiful thing, guys! It's amazing to see the progression over time.

I really hope he doesn't put some limiter or whatever on it, making it silent for a portion of the track. If it's so powerful and that exhausting, the people who go against the rules will do it once, then realise it's stupid and stop. I don't like the idea of listening to my sub and being as diligent as I am, only to be inadvertently listening to silence the whole time. Not cool. Let us ration our listening time ourselves, we're all adults.

To compare 5G and 6G, 6G numbers subject to change of course, but as it stands:

5G: 80-120 words per second
6G: 416.67 words per second

That's a pretty dramatic difference. And that's without any exclusive 6G tech that comes along, or any further improvements in the words per second figure. 6G should be pretty amazing.

Bring on SM4 lol. I seem to need it.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - RTBoss - 09-30-2015

It'd be cool if there was some way for Shannon to give active community members a beta-test 10 minute 6G file that did something harmless, but fun, for people to report back on. Of course, anyone undertaking a six stage program may be screwed, there, but then again - isn't Shannon still running BAMM? And he's using (well, was) 6G prototypes in addition?

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 09-30-2015

(09-24-2015, 02:28 PM)Achiever Wrote: How much will 6G cost,Shannon? I hope it is not too much
Will 6G show obvious results in a day or two or three? Big Grin

I don't know yet. I will have to sit down and calculate a price that best balances my time and expertise with what works for my customers for the value they are getting. The goal is to achieve that balance such that the best interests of both parties are managed.

That said, I would say that it will be significantly more expensive than 5G programs. It should also be significantly more powerful, obvious and fast acting as well. My experiments with the prototype have done nothing but impress and frustrate me for the last few weeks: impress me with how well it works, and frustrate me that the experiments I have been doing with state shifting have been so successful that they made it difficult for me to work.

I'm starting to feel like I can begin aiming this at something soon. We should be getting to the end of development in the not too distant future.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - waahbeta - 09-30-2015

6G more sounds at accomplishing PE which the earlier versions couldn't (although they did but with expections). So cheers for the guys who wanted it.
Height Gain is what I am expecting right since I ve read about the not so limitations of 6G. Let's see if it actually is one of 6Gs

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 09-30-2015

(09-30-2015, 04:53 AM)RTBoss Wrote: It'd be cool if there was some way for Shannon to give active community members a beta-test 10 minute 6G file that did something harmless, but fun, for people to report back on. Of course, anyone undertaking a six stage program may be screwed, there, but then again - isn't Shannon still running BAMM? And he's using (well, was) 6G prototypes in addition?

Shannon has the responsibility to develop the new technology and part of that is making sure it's safe and has no unexpected side effects. That means it gets tested on Shannon before it gets tested on anyone else. And it's a darned good thing, too, because recent experiments have shown that it's darned difficult to know what's going on sometimes. The current prototype s also potentially dangerous if you don't know what is what.

So... I use the BAMM program at night, and I run experiments on myself three to four times a week, typically for 45 minutes to an hour at a time, sometimes as much as three hours. This is one of those cases where I am doing what I tell you not to because I really have no choice in the matter. Nobody else can alpha test this technology with the knowledge I have to make sure it works right and is safe. Don't try this at home.

What I can tell you is that 12 hours of BAMM is no match in power and impact for an hour of the prototype. It's easily overpowering BAMM, and the result is that you can see I'm not as focused as I used to be at all. This is exactly why I say, "don't do that". I'm getting about 15 to 20% of the impact from BAMM that I should be getting, but until I can implement the module to have the prototypes not affect me and it works (which should hopefully be this next prototype), that is what I must deal with. Be glad you're not in such an unenviable spot yourselves.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 09-30-2015

Oh, and Stage 5 of BASE 2.1 is almost finished. I'll be starting on Stage 6 later this evening.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - THolt - 09-30-2015

If BAMM for 12 hours is no match for an hour of 6g then imagine BAMM becomes 6g. Of course this is a long way down the road but it is interesting to see how the technology changes and becomes better

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 09-30-2015

When I made BAMM, I did not want to ever build it again because it was so complex. Now take that complexity in 5G and make it in 6G? Hmmm. Not sure I want the nightmares.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - THolt - 09-30-2015

I was just thinking out loud on how much the technology has changed since BAMM was released. If you ever did do it, I works gladly pay an upgrade fee. I would even pay for a separate enhancer program or a football program in 6g if you decided to build it.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 09-30-2015

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(09-30-2015, 04:16 AM)CatMan Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 10:27 PM)Voytek Wrote: [quote='Superman' pid='85450' dateline='1443568964']
The way Shannon talks about 6g putting you down makes it sound like we're going to have to take a day off from work or school to recover from the sub.

If it provides lasting results I'll gladly take a week off

It`s a prototype, so wa can assume that this "side effect" will be eliminated for final versions. Smile

I also saw posts from him saying the same kind of thing about how exhausting 5G was. The EXACT kind of thing lol. That it made him pass out for a huge amount of time, it's super powerful etc. Also ones from 5G and 4G saying he's probably never going to find something more powerful than them lol. Progress is a beautiful thing, guys! It's amazing to see the progression over time.

The difference being that 5G knocked me out for a couple of hours over the course of the first few trials. This is knocking me down for huge swaths of time, every time. Big difference.

Quote:I really hope he doesn't put some limiter or whatever on it, making it silent for a portion of the track. If it's so powerful and that exhausting, the people who go against the rules will do it once, then realise it's stupid and stop. I don't like the idea of listening to my sub and being as diligent as I am, only to be inadvertently listening to silence the whole time. Not cool. Let us ration our listening time ourselves, we're all adults.

What you're not understanding is that if I put silences in it - say I use a ratio of 2 minutes audio to 1 minute silence, for argument's sake - the reason is that I have determined that doing so significantly enhances the effectiveness of the program by allowing your mind/brain time to process and catch up, as well as to some degree to rest a bit. The problem with that is that the valuable ratio changes from prototype to prototype based on balance of script. Whatever I do, it will be because that is the best way forward to get the value you paid for. By the way, the 6G prototype in 1:0 (no silence) is not significantly more draining than the one in 2:1; it's just that the implementation is different in getting it going. Once the program is in your head and running, it becomes self sustaining to a degree, and continues to execute itself - which is part of why it is so exhausting.

Quote:To compare 5G and 6G, 6G numbers subject to change of course, but as it stands:

5G: 80-120 words per second
6G: 416.67 words per second

That's a pretty dramatic difference. And that's without any exclusive 6G tech that comes along, or any further improvements in the words per second figure. 6G should be pretty amazing.

The number you quote for 6G is of course out of date; the latest prototype is certainly significantly higher. I haven't calculated it exactly recently, but it is more than 416 wps now.