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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - robstar - 12-03-2016

(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 12:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-02-2016, 09:37 AM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

I was wondering about the healing and clearing.

There was clearing/healing in v2.2 and v2.4 and this one. Now I was thinking that I would think each time there should be less healing or less intensity because wouldn't all the healing or clearing be cumulative?

So I started thinking about the layers of an onion analogy. But an analogy isn't proof, just an idea or explanation.

So then I started to wonder, is the healing or clear set up to resolve the content (such as the actual issue), and the processes that may have sustained or created the issue(s).

In other words, let's suppose I'm afraid of women who taller than me because when I was in first grade a teacher yelled at me so much I was afraid of that teacher and then my mind translated that into fearing all women who were taller than me. So there is the content of that fear (fear of tall women), but then there is also the processes that might have led to that being developed and sustained such as feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth.

Now the fear of women who are taller than me may get resolved, but with all those other processes in play... what if a dog starts acting vicious towards me and charges me (but doesn't bite me)... there are still those processes (feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth) that leave me open to developing a fear of dogs.

So to me it would seem important to clear or heal the processes that cause fears in the first place so no new fears develop so we don't need to keep healing endlessly. Eliminate the processes that create fears, and then no more fears are created and the remaining ones are picked off one by one... or eliminate what sustains the remaining fears and then they all collapse as a group.

I hope I'm making sense.

Does the healing or clearing in DMSI address both the processes and content of what needs to be healed?

The healing and clearing does whatever is necessary to achieve the goals of the program, within the parameters given to shield the conscious mind and emotions from any unpleasant effects of the process.

Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-03-2016

(12-03-2016, 10:36 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 12:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-02-2016, 09:37 AM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

I was wondering about the healing and clearing.

There was clearing/healing in v2.2 and v2.4 and this one. Now I was thinking that I would think each time there should be less healing or less intensity because wouldn't all the healing or clearing be cumulative?

So I started thinking about the layers of an onion analogy. But an analogy isn't proof, just an idea or explanation.

So then I started to wonder, is the healing or clear set up to resolve the content (such as the actual issue), and the processes that may have sustained or created the issue(s).

In other words, let's suppose I'm afraid of women who taller than me because when I was in first grade a teacher yelled at me so much I was afraid of that teacher and then my mind translated that into fearing all women who were taller than me. So there is the content of that fear (fear of tall women), but then there is also the processes that might have led to that being developed and sustained such as feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth.

Now the fear of women who are taller than me may get resolved, but with all those other processes in play... what if a dog starts acting vicious towards me and charges me (but doesn't bite me)... there are still those processes (feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth) that leave me open to developing a fear of dogs.

So to me it would seem important to clear or heal the processes that cause fears in the first place so no new fears develop so we don't need to keep healing endlessly. Eliminate the processes that create fears, and then no more fears are created and the remaining ones are picked off one by one... or eliminate what sustains the remaining fears and then they all collapse as a group.

I hope I'm making sense.

Does the healing or clearing in DMSI address both the processes and content of what needs to be healed?

The healing and clearing does whatever is necessary to achieve the goals of the program, within the parameters given to shield the conscious mind and emotions from any unpleasant effects of the process.

Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.

When I get back to my computer, sure.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-03-2016

(12-03-2016, 10:36 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 12:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-02-2016, 09:37 AM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

I was wondering about the healing and clearing.

There was clearing/healing in v2.2 and v2.4 and this one. Now I was thinking that I would think each time there should be less healing or less intensity because wouldn't all the healing or clearing be cumulative?

So I started thinking about the layers of an onion analogy. But an analogy isn't proof, just an idea or explanation.

So then I started to wonder, is the healing or clear set up to resolve the content (such as the actual issue), and the processes that may have sustained or created the issue(s).

In other words, let's suppose I'm afraid of women who taller than me because when I was in first grade a teacher yelled at me so much I was afraid of that teacher and then my mind translated that into fearing all women who were taller than me. So there is the content of that fear (fear of tall women), but then there is also the processes that might have led to that being developed and sustained such as feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth.

Now the fear of women who are taller than me may get resolved, but with all those other processes in play... what if a dog starts acting vicious towards me and charges me (but doesn't bite me)... there are still those processes (feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth) that leave me open to developing a fear of dogs.

So to me it would seem important to clear or heal the processes that cause fears in the first place so no new fears develop so we don't need to keep healing endlessly. Eliminate the processes that create fears, and then no more fears are created and the remaining ones are picked off one by one... or eliminate what sustains the remaining fears and then they all collapse as a group.

I hope I'm making sense.

Does the healing or clearing in DMSI address both the processes and content of what needs to be healed?

The healing and clearing does whatever is necessary to achieve the goals of the program, within the parameters given to shield the conscious mind and emotions from any unpleasant effects of the process.

Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.

It would appear that I answered the question you asked in the post you replied to with this question...


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-04-2016

(12-03-2016, 11:54 PM)Jackson Chandra Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 11:38 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 10:36 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 12:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: The healing and clearing does whatever is necessary to achieve the goals of the program, within the parameters given to shield the conscious mind and emotions from any unpleasant effects of the process.

Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.

It would appear that I answered the question you asked in the post you replied to with this question...

Hi Shannon. What s your next project after DMSI 3.0.1 and GPR12?

GPR12 is done. I am currently trying to decide whether I should build GPR14 or MHS next, since MIR 2.1 is gone and I may not be able to follow the path I was planning to follow with it gone.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - robstar - 12-04-2016

(12-03-2016, 11:38 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 10:36 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 12:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-02-2016, 09:37 AM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

I was wondering about the healing and clearing.

There was clearing/healing in v2.2 and v2.4 and this one. Now I was thinking that I would think each time there should be less healing or less intensity because wouldn't all the healing or clearing be cumulative?

So I started thinking about the layers of an onion analogy. But an analogy isn't proof, just an idea or explanation.

So then I started to wonder, is the healing or clear set up to resolve the content (such as the actual issue), and the processes that may have sustained or created the issue(s).

In other words, let's suppose I'm afraid of women who taller than me because when I was in first grade a teacher yelled at me so much I was afraid of that teacher and then my mind translated that into fearing all women who were taller than me. So there is the content of that fear (fear of tall women), but then there is also the processes that might have led to that being developed and sustained such as feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth.

Now the fear of women who are taller than me may get resolved, but with all those other processes in play... what if a dog starts acting vicious towards me and charges me (but doesn't bite me)... there are still those processes (feeling helpless, thinking I can't protect myself, thinking no one would help me, feeling vulnerable, not being assertive, and so forth) that leave me open to developing a fear of dogs.

So to me it would seem important to clear or heal the processes that cause fears in the first place so no new fears develop so we don't need to keep healing endlessly. Eliminate the processes that create fears, and then no more fears are created and the remaining ones are picked off one by one... or eliminate what sustains the remaining fears and then they all collapse as a group.

I hope I'm making sense.

Does the healing or clearing in DMSI address both the processes and content of what needs to be healed?

The healing and clearing does whatever is necessary to achieve the goals of the program, within the parameters given to shield the conscious mind and emotions from any unpleasant effects of the process.

Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.

It would appear that I answered the question you asked in the post you replied to with this question...

I guess I was just wanting clarification on how exactly it decides what is a "hindrance" to the goals of the program. Does it go by belief, IE: I believe that this anxiety and panic hinders me from achieving the goal, therefore it will heal it?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-04-2016

(12-04-2016, 12:10 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 11:38 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 10:36 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 12:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: The healing and clearing does whatever is necessary to achieve the goals of the program, within the parameters given to shield the conscious mind and emotions from any unpleasant effects of the process.

Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.

It would appear that I answered the question you asked in the post you replied to with this question...

I guess I was just wanting clarification on how exactly it decides what is a "hindrance" to the goals of the program. Does it go by belief, IE: I believe that this anxiety and panic hinders me from achieving the goal, therefore it will heal it?

The program is a set of instructions. It has zero capacity to decide anything.

The script is designed to cause your subconscious mind to clear away and heal anything and everything that would or does prevent you from achieving the goals of the program.

It therefore falls to your own subconscious how to interpret that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - robstar - 12-04-2016

(12-04-2016, 12:13 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-04-2016, 12:10 AM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 11:38 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 10:36 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-03-2016, 03:43 AM)robstar Wrote: Alright, so if I'm having panic attacks, would it heal and clear the causes of the panic attacks since they would be a hindrance in achieving the goals of the program? If that's the case it may be a better fit for me than E2, since with the enhanced technology it is faster and more powerful.

Hey Shannon, just wondering if you'd be able to answer my question.

It would appear that I answered the question you asked in the post you replied to with this question...

I guess I was just wanting clarification on how exactly it decides what is a "hindrance" to the goals of the program. Does it go by belief, IE: I believe that this anxiety and panic hinders me from achieving the goal, therefore it will heal it?

The program is a set of instructions. It has zero capacity to decide anything.

The script is designed to cause your subconscious mind to clear away and heal anything and everything that would or does prevent you from achieving the goals of the program.

It therefore falls to your own subconscious how to interpret that.

Thanks Shannon.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Ricardo - 12-04-2016

What would happen if anyone just used version B straight off? It seems to me the 'clearing' and 'healing' aspect just stops things happening until whenever. Surely B would let us all know pretty damn quick if this version is any good.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-04-2016

(12-04-2016, 07:20 AM)Ricardo Wrote: What would happen if anyone just used version B straight off? It seems to me the 'clearing' and 'healing' aspect just stops things happening until whenever. Surely B would let us all know pretty damn quick if this version is any good.

That was almost clever.

Sounds like you enjoy over simplifying things. But you guys are welcome to do exactly what you're going to do regardless of what I say, as usual.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - posh - 12-04-2016

shannon

do we run dmsi v3 only once every 24 hours?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-04-2016

(12-04-2016, 09:55 AM)posh Wrote: shannon

do we run dmsi v3 only once every 24 hours?

3 loops in every 24 hour period. As if you really had to ask.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - eternity - 12-04-2016

Seems like life is taking a proverbial shit on me. Might have something to do with how intensely the clearing is occurring. If that's the case, I'm glad at how intensely things are being worked on. I am resentful, however, that I can't seem to catch a break thus week.

Long story short, I hope MHS comes out soon.

And if it does, Shannon, how much break would it require between 3.0.1a and MHS?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 12-04-2016

21 days or more.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - posh - 12-04-2016

shannon you need to fix the beep in the hybrid track its annoying. But the main question is will the beep cause negative results?